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joaovinicius16



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PostSubject: My most recent sculptures   Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:41 pm

Just to remember I am against cockfight roosters, they are orders of a friend of mine
Birds are one crack iron(Saltator similis) and finch(Sporophila angolensis)
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PostSubject: Re: My most recent sculptures   Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:51 pm

Amazing detail!

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PostSubject: Re: My most recent sculptures   Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:56 pm

Hello João, it is great that you're posting again! Very Happy That is a huge improvement from the previous birds you showed to us. cheers
They are different from what we usually see here, I love the delicate legs, details and feathers, how did you make it? scratch
A curió, so nice! Very Happy
I edited your post and turned your links in pictures directly on topic. You can do it too copying the links to the insert image field you can find while editing your post. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: My most recent sculptures   Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:59 pm

Wow, great birds! How big are they?
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PostSubject: Re: My most recent sculptures   Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:30 am

Beautiful birds!

EDIT: I have seen some cockfights while I have travelled Indonesia and Southeast Asia and it was not such a cruel thing but I did some research and what I saw was a very watered down version of the sport. I deleted most of my original post as I do not want to give an inaccurate picture of something, especially when I'm wrong. I did not attend by choice, my host during several trips was an avid enthusiast in the sport and tried to attend whenever possible and at times I had no choice. The fights I saw were clean, the spurs were covered and the birds were not hurt, but after looking into the normal parameters of the sport this is not the norm in the rural areas where the sport is a cultural practice.
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PostSubject: Re: My most recent sculptures   Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:30 am

Haybale Farm, thanks

Roger,I make wings feather by feather,sorry for the pictures, is that I forgot to put them in the post

Philter4, historical data reveal that chickens were domesticated primarily for cockfights, so if we think is important and undeniable part of our history and culture.
I like to game fowls, the patterns of colors are numerous and their expressions are impressive, but in Brazil in some cockfights people put razors in the spurs of the roosters and injuries are very cruel, but it's good to know that in some parts of the world there some rules for that roosters do not get hurt.
hope I have not written anything wrong, I used the google translator:oops: 
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PostSubject: Re: My most recent sculptures   Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:33 am

Schleich_Figures_4U , the Saltator similis is 17 cm and Sporophila is 13cm
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PostSubject: Re: My most recent sculptures   Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:16 am

Beautieful birds:-)

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PostSubject: Re: My most recent sculptures   Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:29 am

Fantastic birds !!!!Shocked 
I am very, very impressed cheers 

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PostSubject: Re: My most recent sculptures   Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:54 am

@joaovinicius16 wrote:


Philter4, historical data reveal that chickens were domesticated primarily for cockfights, so if we think is important and undeniable part of our history and culture.
I like to game fowls, the patterns of colors are numerous and their expressions are  impressive, but in Brazil  in some cockfights people put razors in the spurs of the roosters and injuries are very cruel, but it's good to know that in some parts of the world there some rules for that roosters do not get hurt.
hope I have not written anything wrong, I used the google translator:oops: 
No need to apologize, besides you wrote nothing wrong.

I raise all four of the species in the genus Gallus. Gallus gallus, the red junglefowl is also the domestic chicken, which includes all breeds that you see in people's yards, on farms, in the countryside and on the table for dinner. There is some evidence that at some point in India there has been sonneratii mixed in as well, but most domestic chicken breeds are pure red junglefowl until recently (the last 100 years, but chickens have been domesticated for thousands of years). I do not have the wild type but several domestic breeds. I raise them for eggs so have no roosters, I am also concerned cock might breed with the other species causing hybrids which will ruin my bloodlines.

I keep pure Gallus sonneratii, the grey junglefowl, Gallus layafeyetii, the Ceylon junglefowl and Gallus various, the green junglefowl. I have had no luck breeding the Ceylon junglefowl but here in the U.S.A. they are very few new genes so they are inbred, you can not tell by looking, they are beautiful birds that are typical of the species but have very weak eggs, poor survivability of the chicks and are prone to diseases. The other two species I have are directly from wild birds and very good breeders.

I have friends who raise several types of gamecocks, but I have never tried them, they do not produce eggs very well so are not a good type for my situation, especially since I can't have a rooster.
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PostSubject: Re: My most recent sculptures   Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:16 am

Awesome job!

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PostSubject: Re: My most recent sculptures   Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:24 am

These are amazing John, great work!

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PostSubject: Re: My most recent sculptures   Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:31 am

@Philter4 wrote:


No need to apologize, besides you wrote nothing wrong.

I raise all four of the species in the genus Gallus.  Gallus gallus, the red junglefowl is also the domestic chicken, which includes all breeds that you see in people's yards, on farms, in the countryside and on the table for dinner.  There is some evidence that at some point in India there has been sonneratii mixed in as well, but most domestic chicken breeds are pure red junglefowl until recently (the last 100 years, but chickens have been domesticated for thousands of years).  I do not have the wild type but several domestic breeds.  I raise them for eggs so have no roosters, I am also concerned cock might breed with the other species causing hybrids which will ruin my bloodlines.

I keep pure Gallus sonneratii, the grey junglefowl, Gallus layafeyetii, the Ceylon junglefowl and Gallus various, the green junglefowl.  I have had no luck breeding the Ceylon junglefowl but here in the U.S.A. they are very few new genes so they are inbred, you can not tell by looking, they are beautiful birds that are typical of the species but have very weak eggs, poor survivability of the chicks and are prone to diseases.  The other two species I have are directly from wild birds and very good breeders.

I have friends who raise several types of gamecocks, but I have never tried them, they do not produce eggs very well so are not a good type for my situation, especially since I can't have a rooster.
Phil is right, - of course you did not write anything wrong Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy 

Wow, Phil ! There is no end to the interesting species of animals that you have Shocked 

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PostSubject: Re: My most recent sculptures   Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:34 am

Widukind, Susanne, Harriet and Saarlooswolfhound, thanks!!!

Philter4, must be amazing to keep all these  breeds of chickens!!!
it is difficult to keep them? wish you luck with Ceylon junglefowls
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PostSubject: Re: My most recent sculptures   Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:42 pm

@joaovinicius16 wrote:
Philter4, must be amazing to keep all these  breeds of chickens!!!
it is difficult to keep them? wish you luck with Ceylon junglefowls
They are not too difficult to keep, they are different from chickens and there are lots of challenges to breeding them.

First, only one species is considered a chicken, the red junglefowl (Gallus gallus) is the pure form of the species we call a chicken, the other 3 are not chickens in the true definition of the genetics. They can mix, and the chicks they produce are fertile but after the first generation the eggs become weak and then eventually infertile making them different species rather then different breeds.

Second, because they can mix but it ruins the genetics, I have to not only have lots of space but keep track of every chick so I do not get any hens mixed up. Adult hens are easy to tell apart but young female birds that are sellable age look so much alike if I make a mistake I could end up sending a mismatched pair to a zoo or breeder.

Finally, hens can be kept together relatively safely but cocks have to be separated at a young age or they will damage their feathers. Even hens need at least twice the room as chickens, these are wild birds and don't live in flocks like our farm birds do, in the wild a large group is 5 birds and 3 is more typical except in the grey junglefowl, they are strictly a pair forming species.

I do my best to keep my birds like they live in nature so I have adult groups with a cock and 2-3 hens except the grey's which are in pairs, all the pens are 20 X 10 ft and 6 ft high with a heated indoor area at one end that is 5 X 7 ft there is also a 5 X 5 ft area covered above and on 3 sides attached to the indoor area that they can still get outside in bad weather. Each pen is planted with bamboo and palms which they still eat but don't kill, just about any other plants I put in there they eat down to the ground. These birds fly really well, not like a chicken at all, so there are branches all over the flight pens, once one hen escaped and flew straight down to the creek about 1/3 mile (almost 1 km) away in a perfect line! Luckily I caught her a week later as she returned to the cocks calls. They also have a different diet then chickens, they do eat seeds, but they also eat a lot of insects so I feed about 1/2 of their food by weight live crickets, mealworms, and other bugs along with prepared foods like cat food.
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PostSubject: Re: My most recent sculptures   Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:06 am

@joaovinicius16 wrote:


Roger,I make wings feather by feather,sorry for the pictures, is that I forgot to put them in the post

João, thanks for telling how do you make all these details! Very Happy You are an old friend of the forum and you know how it works, so no needing of saying sorry! Just enjoy! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: My most recent sculptures   Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:00 pm

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