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PostSubject: Quarterhorse mare and andalusian mare comparison   Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:34 pm

These two looks rather alike each other. But if one really look at them you see they pretty much just have the same pose and are very different from each other. Just wanted to share it. And it might be someone looking for good pictures of these two models anyway :)
The andalusian mare was together with the newest arabian stallion the first two horses I bought for my collection one my own.

Quarterhorse mare # 13251 from 2000
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:46 pm

Nice horses, congrate

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:49 pm

WOW! I never, ever thought about that ! Shocked

FANTASTI ! It is like the just put a bit more hair on the new mare, - and shoes !
I wonder if that is actually what they did scratch

Very well seen, and thankyou very much for sharing bounce Sad(o)): Sad(o)):

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:38 pm

That is very interesting! Very Happy After watching your great pictures, I am sure Schleich reused the mould of the Quarter mare to make the Andalusian mare. study
Moulds can be updated and it is much cheaper than make completely new moulds.
So see, Quarter mare was available until the end of 2008, in 2009 she was not anymore in catalogue but there was already an Andalusian stallion in horses range. This year, 2009, is marked on Andalusian mare, this is her year of production and in 2010 she was in catalogue. Everything makes sense. Very Happy
I think you are very observant once there are a lot of different details and it is not expected at all that a brand uses the mould of a Quarter to make an Andalusian. Very Happy
Papo does it almost in a scandalous way and Mojo already updated some figures reusing previous moulds. But in those cases it was to remake the same animal or breed.
It won't surprise me that, after Andalusian retirement, Schleich uses again this mold to make a Lusitano mare. Both breeds are identical. Thanks for sharing such an interesting topic. flower

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:49 pm

Great pics, it's really helpful to be able to see these side by side. This makes it very clear the Andy mare is based on a lightly customized and retextured QH, as opposed to a new mold that just happens to be the exact same pose.

Apropos nothing, another pet peeve of mine. They haven't even tried to make her resemble an Andalusian! Apart from the typical Iberian profile, one of the easiest ways of recognizing a PRE/PSL mare is the hairdo. Broodmares (and youngstock of either gender) are shown with hogged manes and the dock of the tail shaved. This is done both to show off the shape of the head and neck and to keep the mane tangle free when horses graze in scrubland.
Personally, I love hogged manes and knotted tails on models. It draws attention to the horse's neck and hind legs, and allows you a better view of the animal's conformation than the overly hairy ones (Moody, I'm looking at you).

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:08 pm

Sure there's some shady business going on here silent

Very good observation and interesting topic! I suppose we could make a lot of detective work... I think some of the Bayalas and knights does have horse mold variations... There must be more of this scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:34 pm

Thank you all for the appreciation. I always like these kind of topics even if I may not have much to say one my own.

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Sure there's some shady business going on here silent

Very good observation and interesting topic! I suppose we could make a lot of detective work... I think some of the Bayalas and knights does have horse mold variations... There must be more of this scratch


There is always this ones. I have already said this in the topic about the new special white frisian. I don't own the bayala one to compare.
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I have looked at the knights and bayala trying to compare them. It is just often look alikes, like Sera's horse and the tinker mare. Can't really say as I don't own more than one bayala horse.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:49 am

And when you look at the palomino stallion and the knapstrupper stallion they look quite similar aswell.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:36 pm

The haflinger mare 13606 and camargue mare 13711 are also closely related.

Of course there is unicorn rearing 70421 and rearing mustang stallion 13624.
Trotting unicorn 70432 and lippizaner gelding 13293,
tinker mare 13279 and bayala Sera 70402.
Camargue mare 13609 and przewalski's mare 13620 are also a bit suspicious.

Im only not completly sure, if there is relation between trakehner stute 13261 and Hanoverian stallion 13649 /Pegasus standing 70423 ?


And there is also something..interesting about Schleich Arabian foal grazing 13652 and MOJO FUN  arabian foal grazing 387073.

[edit] now, that im starting to see things (i have 82 Schleich horses)

3 same legs + roughly same size -
appaloosa stallion 13732 and sorrel mare 13253
pinto stallion 13616 and andalusian stallion  13607
hafling gelding 13280 and trained horse 13706
lipizzaner mare 13603 and tennessee walking horse stallion 13631

same butt except tail and veins -
akhal-teke mare  13701 and her husband akhal-teke stallion 13690

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:19 am

[url=[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]][/url]Also compare this model with the Quaterhorse and Andalusion.

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:21 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:47 am

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:13 am

Ha, ha, Schleich !
You can`t fool the experts of STS cheers 

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:33 pm

I thought I wanted to add this :)
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:53 pm

Great catch Carola! I would have never noticed that.

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:36 pm

Good observation, Carola !!!!!Applause 
Really ! Schleich ought to begin some product development !!!!!!What a Face 

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:47 pm

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Great catch Carola! I would have never noticed that.
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Good observation, Carola !!!!!Applause 
Really ! Schleich ought to begin some product development !!!!!!What a Face 
Thank you, but actually AlienMantis mentioned these two already, I just provide the photo Wink 
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:59 pm

Thanks Carola for additional picture to Alienmantis comment. Very Happy No doubt also that the brand updated the Haflinger mould, it also shows, like it happened with the whale shark, that some Schleich figures keep in catalogue some years after production being stoped. It usually means that they're selling less than they expected, though, that is not a news.

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:23 pm

AlienMantis also mentions these two, as being slightly suspicious. In case Schleich can scale down things, it could be Rolling Eyes 
(also got me anexcuse to take photos of these two goegeous models Very Happy )
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:27 pm

It's possible, but I'm wondering if Schleich would go to that extent to resize the figure, add a new head... etc. scratch when they could just make a new model. But again, it's possible - I mean, the body is the same shape and all. Suspect 

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:53 pm

It could be also that their sculptor(s?) aren't capable of creating more interesting poses Razz After all, majority of Schleich horses is just standing.

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:07 pm

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It could be also that their sculptor(s?) aren't capable of creating more interesting poses :PAfter all, majority of Schleich horses is just standing.
Likely to be the case Rolling Eyes Schleich do very little daring with their horse poses. The Lusitano is a good example of the opposite, but he does have major weird things in his anatomy I think. But he certainly get lots of credit for the pose, from me at least cheers 
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:08 pm

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It could be also that their sculptor(s?) aren't capable of creating more interesting poses :PAfter all, majority of Schleich horses is just standing.
Laughing Completely true, unfortunately. Rolling Eyes 

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:10 pm

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It could be also that their sculptor(s?) aren't capable of creating more interesting poses :PAfter all, majority of Schleich horses is just standing.
The Lusitano is a good example of the opposite...
And 13216 fullblood! I love you He's running so fast he succeeds in racing right past me every time I try to catch him. No 

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:14 pm

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It could be also that their sculptor(s?) aren't capable of creating more interesting poses :PAfter all, majority of Schleich horses is just standing.
The Lusitano is a good example of the opposite...
And 13216 fullblood! I love you He's running so fast he succeeds in racing right past me every time I try to catch him. No 
Oh he yes absolutely Very Happy (Not in my collection though, so i didn't think of that model).
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:15 pm

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It could be also that their sculptor(s?) aren't capable of creating more interesting poses :PAfter all, majority of Schleich horses is just standing.
The Lusitano is a good example of the opposite...
And 13216 fullblood! I love you He's running so fast he succeeds in racing right past me every time I try to catch him. No 
Oh he yes absolutely Very Happy (Not in my collection though, so i didn't think of that model).
Not in mine either! Sad 

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:07 pm

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These two are hardly the same mould. It is possible to reduce the size and also the pose but it would be too workful. To me, they only share the same sculpting style. Very Happy
They also share almost the same availability period in catalogue what corroborates with that idea. :)
Interesting, is that you were able of photographing this camargue mare in a way that she looks another princess. flowerVery Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:14 pm

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Interesting, is that you were able of photographing this camargue mare in a way that she looks another princess. flowerVery Happy
Thank you queen This Camargue, she sure has something special. The stallions in my cabinet fall over, as she throws her glance at them Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:05 pm

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Interesting, is that you were able of photographing this camargue mare in a way that she looks another princess. flowerVery Happy
Thank you queen This Camargue, she sure has something special. The stallions in my cabinet fall over, as she throws her glance at them Wink
Very Happy Surely she knows how to do it! Wink flower

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:55 pm

@ downscaling...
I guess they have some mechanism of doing it. Since "new" Parasaurolophus 14517 is just a smaller and repainted version of 16455. The same goes with new Spinosaurus 14521 compared to 16459 (oh..and new one has movable mandibles).

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Sun Sep 29, 2013 2:23 pm

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I guess they have some mechanism of doing it. Since "new" Parasaurolophus 14517 is just a smaller and repainted version of 16455. The same goes with new Spinosaurus 14521 compared to 16459 (oh..and new one has movable mandibles).
Yes, I also suspect that they can do it. We can see also many Safari figures, sometimes in three different sizes. I really don't know if moulds are down sized or copied in smaller scale. scratch

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:59 pm

Exist any walkaraunds of Turag 70405, Sioux Chief on Horse 70300 and 70048 Queen on horse without people?

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PostSubject: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Wed Oct 09, 2013 1:07 am

So all this talk recently about Schleich figures with reused and reconfigured molds, I was inspired to create this topic. Wink 

What I mean by "reused mold" and "reconfigured mold" is that the figure is released once, then after that figure's discontinuation, the mold is used again to produce a different figure. This can happen once, or more than once. Schleich seems to be fond of doing this, so let's see what all of the examples are!

Please post your comparison photos here of the reused/reconfigured mold figures. cheers

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You can see here that the knight-horse is slightly larger, and the two front legs are reversed. The head is also turned downward slightly, and the mane fuller, shorter, and flattened.

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:26 am

Interesting, some of those I never noticed before.

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:55 am

are those Zebra stripped animals official releases?

I seen them before, but I thought they were just custom painted

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:05 am

They were a promotion for their 75th anniversary.

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:41 am

I assume that most of these molds are not "reused" but rather "reconfigured" into new molds. With CAD type software, now quite prevalent, it would be much easier to do so, with the leg positions changed, the size of the model increased, etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:04 am

Interesting:-)

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:57 am

Great subject cheers 

There is also the western waggon, - the horses are standard models with another painting Very Happy 

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:21 am

Great thread and great photos 4U cheers 
There are ones I've never noticed before. Also indeed an official repaint can be considered reuse of a model. 

Here are some photos of those I've got. Camargue and ol' Haflinger.
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Despite some reuse, they certainly are two very different (wonderful) ladies Wink 
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Palomino and Knabstrupper.
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Sweet guys!
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Ol' Camargue and Przewalski. These have been up for discussion though.
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And the obvious reuse of a popular model to make a popular colour variant Rolling Eyes Not ment negatively - I love this white friesian very much!
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:05 pm

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are those Zebra stripped animals official releases?

I seen them before, but I thought they were just custom painted
Yes, there were codes inside the boxes for the zebra plane. You would enter the code on the site and they sent you a free limited edition zebra animal! cheers

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I assume that most of these molds are not "reused" but rather "reconfigured" into new molds.  With CAD type software, now quite prevalent, it would be much easier to do so, with the leg positions changed, the size of the model increased, etc.
"Reconfigured" would be a good word to use here too. Thanks for your input - I'll add that into the title.

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Great subject cheers 

There is also the western waggon, - the horses are standard models with another painting Very Happy 
Unfortunately I don't have the wagon. Sad But thank you for mentioning that here! cheers



Carola, thank you for sharing your wonderful photos! Applause 

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:15 pm

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Carola, thank you for sharing your wonderful photos! Applause 
Thank you cheers Anytime queen 

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:11 pm

Here are some comparisons of different models of horses schleich: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] :)
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:32 am

Although this subject was already discussed, I find this topic very interesting! Very Happy
We see repainted figures using the same mold, slightly updated moulds, clearly updated and some completely redesigned to a new mould but with a recognizable origin. cheers

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Thanks for this link, it is brilliant, if you need some help posting pictures just pm me or any other :Dmoderator.

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:41 am

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Fantastic link, Titwen! There are so many! Well done cheers 

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:49 pm

I just wanted to link to this topic with wonderful photos relevant to this thread:
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:44 am

Some others I can think of but which I do not have pictures of at the moment. If anyone has some then please post:


1. The Schleich Dromedary and the Discontinued Arabian Rider and Dromedary - these are very similar but still different too.

2. Wildlife wolf (non howling one) and the Gregis Wolf

3. Noctis panther and Leopard model

4. Apricum Stag and Schleich Red deer stag (non bellowing one)

5. Kenjok Crocodile and wildlife croc

6. Black panther cub (sold with book) and leopard cub.

7. Standing racoon and the Marween fairy racoon (miniaturised version)

8. Schleich white llama and llama horst

9. Old indian rhino model and the later revised version

10. Both Hyena models with subtle differences

11. Current african elephants and previous versions - virtually similar!

12. White and brown pelican variants

13. Current male moose and previous version are very similar

14. Current hippo and previous version are also similar.

Ok I am on a roll here and thinking off the top of my head!

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:40 pm

There are the Morgan stallion and the old Pegasus, too:

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:18 pm

Oh I never noticed that! Thanks for sharing! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Gather Photos of "Reused/Reconfigured Mold" Schleich!   Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:48 pm

I never noticed that either, thanks for sharing!

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