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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Sat 18 Jan - 11:27

I think it is not important that snow leopard is a repainted and customed puma. The snow leopard is good, that's a fact.

I found this year very nice cause in new relises there are many interesting replicas for me. For example, wolves and the raven from Safari. Maybe CollectA make a lot of different animals but I think some of that lack quality. And so the leader for me is Papo.
And in this year, I would purchase the wolf cub, the husky and the weimaraner :)

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Sun 19 Jan - 21:55

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Yes your right Christophe, but for me it's stolen Razz

Who stole who, Bryan? scratch
As Christophe correctly explained, it is originally a Maia&Borges figure released in 1998, Schleich bought it and added to their range in 2002 and 2003. In 2012 Maia & Borges relaunched their sea life and in 2014 Papo bought the mold and introduced it this year in their range.
We can agree it is a boring thing but no stealing at all.

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Sun 19 Jan - 22:05

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Yes your right Christophe, but for me it's stolen Razz

Who stole who, Bryan? scratch
As Christophe correctly explained, it is originally a Maia&Borges figure released in 1998, Schleich bought it and added to their range in 2002 and 2003. In 2012 Maia & Borges relaunched their sea life and in 2014 Papo bought the mold and introduced it this year in their range.
We can agree it is a boring thing but no stealing at all.
Yes your right Roger!
I just do not really explained well, Papo has indeed bought by M & B and not stolen, sorry.

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Sun 19 Jan - 22:21

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Yes your right Christophe, but for me it's stolen Razz

Who stole who, Bryan? scratch
As Christophe correctly explained, it is originally a Maia&Borges figure released in 1998, Schleich bought it and added to their range in 2002 and 2003. In 2012 Maia & Borges relaunched their sea life and in 2014 Papo bought the mold and introduced it this year in their range.
We can agree it is a boring thing but no stealing at all.
Yes your right Roger!
I just do not really explained well, Papo has indeed bought by M & B and not stolen, sorry.

Very Happy You don't have to feel sorry Bryan, we know you and we know you didn't want to say bad things. However, if someone from a company reads it, it can sound not good. Now everyone will know that you only don't agree with brands bringing back already used molds what I don't agree too. :)
Though, I am happy seeing that M&B molds keep being interesting to these major companies. Also, it is the surprise of the year for me, seeing a company that competes directly with Schleich, bringing a mold that the German brand used before. Shocked They could use other sea life molds never used before be Schleich or even the water and lake birds instead.
Well, now it is my turn to say something that Papo can dislike.... why don't they ask Maia & Borges to make new zebras? Laughing tongue

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Mon 20 Jan - 13:07

Has anyone here bought papo animals online? I'm thinking of buying some papo lions cause I can't find them in any store here.. I'm wondering if anyone has bought them online were you satisfied with the animals you got? I mean the paintwork etc, cause from my experience that varies alot sometimes  Neutral 
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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Mon 20 Jan - 15:36

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Yes your right Christophe, but for me it's stolen Razz

Who stole who, Bryan? scratch
As Christophe correctly explained, it is originally a Maia&Borges figure released in 1998, Schleich bought it and added to their range in 2002 and 2003. In 2012 Maia & Borges relaunched their sea life and in 2014 Papo bought the mold and introduced it this year in their range.
We can agree it is a boring thing but no stealing at all.
Yes your right Roger!
I just do not really explained well, Papo has indeed bought by M & B and not stolen, sorry.

Very Happy You don't have to feel sorry Bryan, we know you and we know you didn't want to say bad things. However, if someone from a company reads it, it can sound not good. Now everyone will know that you only don't agree with brands bringing back already used molds what I don't agree too. :)
Though, I am happy seeing that M&B molds keep being interesting to these major companies. Also, it is the surprise of the year for me, seeing a company that competes directly with Schleich, bringing a mold that the German brand used before. :shock:They could use other sea life molds never used before be Schleich or even the water and lake birds instead.
Well, now it is my turn to say something that Papo can dislike.... why don't they ask Maia & Borges to make new zebras? Laughingtongue
Can be honest the Papo read this. Laughing
Stolen is for me a figure that has never existed, that does not mean that the species or the pose was already there, just so special to need an old figure back is uninspired to me. And nobody needs. Well I think it's not at all definitely great.

Welcome Here Princesslion! Very Happy
Yes when you buy figures online they have the same quality how when you buy them on a local toy store

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Mon 20 Jan - 16:06

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Has anyone here bought papo animals online? I'm thinking of buying some papo lions cause I can't find them in any store here.. I'm wondering if anyone has bought them online were you satisfied with the animals you got? I mean the paintwork etc, cause from my experience that varies alot sometimes  Neutral 

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Mon 20 Jan - 16:58

Thanks arafan and Animal_Figures :) I'm glad I found this forum, its awesome Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Mon 20 Jan - 17:09

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Thanks arafan and Animal_Figures :) I'm glad I found this forum, its awesome Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Mon 20 Jan - 17:36

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Has anyone here bought papo animals online? I'm thinking of buying some papo lions cause I can't find them in any store here.. I'm wondering if anyone has bought them online were you satisfied with the animals you got? I mean the paintwork etc, cause from my experience that varies alot sometimes  Neutral 
Welcome on forum! flower
Of course when buying online, you don't have the chance of choosing the best sample. Though, it is not easy to find a local shop with many Papo figures to choose. There is always the risk of getting a not very well painted figure but most part of our experiences are good. Very Happy
We use mainly these two German online shops and they are excelent. :)
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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Mon 20 Jan - 17:43

Welcome on STS Princess  cheers 

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Mon 20 Jan - 17:57

Thank you all! :)

I guess I'll have to take that risk then cause those papo lions look great! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Mon 20 Jan - 18:14

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Mon 20 Jan - 18:18

Omg I want that lion!  bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Mon 20 Jan - 19:40

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Mon 20 Jan - 22:04

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I really like that Percheron too, too bad he's not very detailed.
Most Papo horses have a lot of personality and interesting poses, as well as decent proportions. But they lack details, and that makes them boring for most people, I think.

Could you please explain what details they are lacking?
I know you are a very good expert when it comes to horses, so I'm sure you are right and I would value your opinion on this.
I have only 2 Papo horses (both draft horses) and the only thing wrong with them is that I think the paintjob is lacking.
Very simple and shiny.
But when you start to look at those horses upclose, you can see they do have subtle sculpted body hair and horse shoes and I love how they turn their ears in different directions sometimes to make it more lifelike.

I agree with Carola however.
Their horse sculpts are always very bulky.
But that's okay for draft horses I guess?

I think Magda is referring to some lack of texture present in some Papo figures. Contrarily to some other brands, Papo uses a much smoother texture to figures that doesn't represent furry animals like it happens often with horses. Collectors of modern figures like usually best a deeply carved texture instead but as you say, when we look well, we can see that they're really detailed but in a much more subtle way. In fact, a delicate texture, often represents with more realism the real fur effect. Though, the smoother surfaces are not compatible with glossy finish and figures end often shiny. I hope Magda sees it and give her real opinion once I am only conjecturing. Laughing
I love Papo horses, they have very different textures, poses, conformations, personalities and doesn't have the uniforme looking we see often in many Schleich horses.
Here is a Papo horse that looks to have a furry like texture.
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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Mon 20 Jan - 22:40

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I think Magda is referring to some lack of texture present in some Papo figures.

I was referring to lack of details, such as marked muscles, veins or tendons visible under the skin. As I mentioned earlier, their general proportions and poses are very good and convincing (and they do have personality!). If they had as much details as the recent Collecta horses, or Papo's own big cats, they would be simply amazing models! I really hope that one they Papo horses will be on the same level as their current wildlife models!
I'm referring to the newest moulds, introduced in 2010 and later, as the older ones generally have more flaws in general shape.

As for the texture, personally I prefer when horses in this scale are smooth - unless they are supposed to portrait a horse in thick winter coat Wink In summer (or when clipped) horses have very smooth coat, and hair texture shouldn't be visible in this scale. But that's my personal taste, some prefer textured models Very Happy

EDIT: I have a bold plan of buying a few Papo horses and improving their details and minor flaws they have. I really think these horses have great customizing potential. Keep your fingers crossed! I want to start very soon! Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Tue 21 Jan - 5:23

wow great Papo 2014 !!!
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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Tue 21 Jan - 6:03

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wow great Papo 2014 !!!

I only wish the painting will be as good as in this pics... But I have some doubts  Sad 

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Tue 21 Jan - 6:19

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wow great Papo 2014 !!!

I only wish the painting will be as good as in this pics... But I have some doubts  Sad 

Reasonable doubts! Look at the grizzly, tigress, and Texas bull.  Mad 


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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Tue 21 Jan - 8:30

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I think Magda is referring to some lack of texture present in some Papo figures.

I was referring to lack of details, such as marked muscles, veins or tendons visible under the skin. As I mentioned earlier, their general proportions and poses are very good and convincing (and they do have personality!). If they had as much details as the recent Collecta horses, or Papo's own big cats, they would be simply amazing models! I really hope that one they Papo horses will be on the same level as their current wildlife models!
I'm referring to the newest moulds, introduced in 2010 and later, as the older ones generally have more flaws in general shape.

As for the texture, personally I prefer when horses in this scale are smooth - unless they are supposed to portrait a horse in thick winter coat ;)In summer (or when clipped) horses have very smooth coat, and hair texture shouldn't be visible in this scale. But that's my personal taste, some prefer textured models Very Happy

EDIT: I have a bold plan of buying a few Papo horses and improving their details and minor flaws they have. I really think these horses have great customizing potential. Keep your fingers crossed! I want to start very soon! Twisted Evil

Thank you Magda.
CollectA made a great choice hiring Deborah McDermott.
Next to her horses, Papo horses look indeed a bit crude.

Hopefully Papo will hire a new, better horse sculpter now their old one obviously went to work for the Schleich's 2014 horse line.
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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Tue 21 Jan - 12:20

Mangalarga wrote:

EDIT: I have a bold plan of buying a few Papo horses and improving their details and minor flaws they have. I really think these horses have great customizing potential. Keep your fingers crossed! I want to start very soon! Twisted Evil

Magda, thanks for clearing it up! Very Happy Fingers crossed and looking forward to see your new projects. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Tue 21 Jan - 17:22

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wow great Papo 2014 !!!

I only wish the painting will be as good as in this pics... But I have some doubts  Sad 

Reasonable doubts! Look at the grizzly, tigress, and Texas bull.  Mad 



Yes sir  Wink 

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Tue 21 Jan - 17:32

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Tue 21 Jan - 19:23

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I only wish the painting will be as good as in this pics... But I have some doubts  Sad 
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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Tue 21 Jan - 19:36

I agree with Juan, I have most of the sea life from Papo and I haven't been disappointed with any of the painting, just the molds. I can't really explain why those particular figures had bad paint jobs scratch Maybe it was it was one of their workers who didn't have as much experience as some of the others? Or like they say, they're handpainted and we should expect variations?
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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Tue 21 Jan - 21:00

I have mixed opinions on this issue. (Although, I can't speak to the Sea Life and so I'm definitely not disagreeing with anything Orcagirl wrote.) I don't think Papo has issues with painting in general. However, it's also true that the paintwork on the Grizzly (especially) and the Tigress did not turn out to be as strong as Papo's stock photographs led us to expect.

At the same time, I don't think I was nearly as disappointed by these figures as others. I just love the Grizzly Bear, as well as the Tigress. The painting of the latter doesn't bother me at all. It's not as good as the photographs, but did not let me down in person. In the case of the Grizzly, yes, I was a little let down, at first. But I still think it's a great sculpt and after my initial disappointment, I'm really happy with the model (one of my favorites of 2013).
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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Tue 21 Jan - 21:40

It could also be that Papo decided to try a different paint style. From the pictures, it looks like the tigress was actually molded in orange rather than painted. Maybe Papo is like Safari Ltd. and has each worker paint a different part of the figure and it just didn't turn out well? I really can't say why they turned out that way.

If this was brought to Papo's attention, perhaps they could change something about the painting on the figures? Then again, I'm not sure if they are like other companies and are willing to listen to what the collectors think. Down the line, they may change it on their own. I've noticed some of the sea life figures look different now than what I've purchased a few years ago.
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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Wed 22 Jan - 1:20

Talking about painting, I believe Papo can definitely show improvement in this area. For example when you look at Papo dinosaurs usually have superior painting job than the others and obviously the price is higher. Or perhaps costing needs to be justify too and all it depends on the chief operation officer directions and concerned.

Finally, I still agrees that Papo did a lot of good figurines. Lets' hope the 2014 releases will have excellent paint job as good as their stock photograph or not too worst.

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Wed 22 Jan - 2:31

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I only wish the painting will be as good as in this pics... But I have some doubts  Sad 

Reasonable doubts! Look at the grizzly, tigress, and Texas bull.  Mad 



Yes sir  Wink 

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They don't have nice paintings as the stock photos.


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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Wed 22 Jan - 16:12

Papo has updated their website, also PDF catalogue for 2014!  Very Happy 

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Wed 22 Jan - 16:41

Thank you for the information! cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Wed 22 Jan - 21:04

Finally!  cheers   Very Happy 

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Wed 22 Jan - 21:27

Oh wow! Finally indeed.
They even made the effort to make the site in different languages.
I appreciate that from Papo.

(It also causes some funny moments for now, because the pictures and names don't always depict the same animal. Check out Gorilla and Giraffe male for example.)

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Thu 23 Jan - 0:57

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Thu 23 Jan - 7:46

Hi everyone, here's a pretty comprehensive set of images for the Papo 2014 range. We don't have prices up yet for the new items. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Thu 23 Jan - 17:26

Hmm, I didn't notice the "fantasy" cats  scratch 
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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Thu 23 Jan - 17:46

It looks also that Papo doesn't know the real gender of young lion. scratch

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Thanks Jason! Very Happy

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Hmm, I didn't notice the "fantasy" cats  scratch 

Me too! Sleep cat Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Thu 23 Jan - 19:19

Wait, whut?! Fantasy cats... WHY!! o.0 They look awful IMO...
Papo, you did such a great job with the big cats, don't ruin the small ones...

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Thu 23 Jan - 19:48

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Wait, whut?! Fantasy cats... WHY!! o.0 They look awful IMO...
Papo, you  did such a great job with the big cats, don't ruin the small ones...
Hahahahah!!! lol!  lol!  lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Thu 23 Jan - 20:02

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Wait, whut?! Fantasy cats... WHY!! o.0 They look awful IMO...
Papo, you  did such a great job with the big cats, don't ruin the small ones...

Yea, this's disgusting bounce pale No 

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Thu 23 Jan - 21:25

The fantasy cats appear to be repaints of P54001, P54002 and P54003 (see [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] )
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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Thu 23 Jan - 21:37

Some fantasy and the new Ara are already available: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Thu 23 Jan - 21:59

I just actually checked their website and noticed that they now have a suggestion box!
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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Fri 24 Jan - 11:49

I really love this brand :)

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Fri 24 Jan - 13:13

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I really love this brand :)

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I agree with you!sunny  Wonderful photo! cheers 

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Fri 24 Jan - 17:50

Apparently there is going to be a set of 6 mini dinosaurs as well.
Anyone knew about them yet?

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Fri 24 Jan - 18:36

I completely missed the husky dog!

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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Fri 24 Jan - 19:39

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I completely missed the husky dog!

It looks awesome, doesn't it?
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PostSubject: Re: Papo 2014!   Fri 24 Jan - 23:12

The weimarner still looks a little weird to me, but not awful. This looks like a good year for me. Very Happy 

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