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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:01 pm

its looking good so far

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:53 pm

It looks incredible, cannot wait to see it finished!

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:45 pm

Thank you Joan, Trevok and Paige! sunny sunny sunny 

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Thanks Anna.  So what's Sculpey III like then, the texture and consistency?  Is it hard and good to carve and can you paint it with acrylics after curing?


Before baking it's soft, maybe even softer than Fimo, it's quite much like Super Sculpey. After baking it's easy to carve, sand and also easy to paint with acrylics or any other paints. :)

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:32 am

This is incredible! I love the eyes particularly - so skilled and beautiful already - they show a lot of alertness.

Can't wait to see this one finished!
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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:28 pm

I've been browsing a lot of photos of Huculs lately (especially of Hucul's Path Wink ), I'm logging in to the forum and I see this topic Laughing 

The body is a tad too short - right now the model is significantly taller than longer. He should look better if you lengthened his barrel a bit. Huculs, as all primitive breeds, aren't as leggy as e.g. Warmbloods.
Also the hooves look off to me - they are too small and still need some work to improve their shape.
Other than that, he looks fine to me. I love the idea of windblown mane and tail - that always makes even a standing model more interesting Very Happy 

If you want more profound insight, I can send photos of him to my friend who knows a LOT about equine anatomy - maybe she could write more constructive critique for you Wink But she's quite busy with work at the moment so I can't promise quick response from her.

Btw, are you planning to release him in resin?

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:18 pm

Thank you for comments Magda and Miss Jane! Very Happy

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I've been browsing a lot of photos of Huculs lately (especially of Hucul's Path Wink), I'm logging in to the forum and I see this topic Laughing 

The body is a tad too short - right now the model is significantly taller than longer. He should look better if you lengthened his barrel a bit.
Also the hooves look off to me - they are too small and still need some work to improve their shape.
Wow, probably you are right, I didn't notice that. I will make some measurements again but perhaps it would be better if I make legs slightly shorter rather than body longer, especially because his head size is on the smaller side. And yes of course, as I mentioned earlier in this topic his legs and hooves are still not done. Especially hooves are at very early stage.


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Other than that, he looks fine to me. I love the idea of windblown mane and tail - that always makes even a standing model more interesting Very Happy 

If you want more profound insight, I can send photos of him to my friend who knows a LOT about equine anatomy - maybe she could write more constructive critique for you ;)But she's quite busy with work at the moment so I can't promise quick response from her.

Btw, are you planning to release him in resin?


It would be extremely nice if your friend could look at this!! However maybe it would be better to send the photos when work will be on more advanced stage?

About copies, yes, there will be mold and copies of this model later. I don't know when, I'm not in hurry. I will write here and on FB when it's done Smile 

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:06 pm

Yes, shortening the legs should improve him as well :)

Btw, you wrote that chestnut is unacceptable in this breed - it's true only for Polish studbook. I've read that they are accepted in Romania,Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary - studbooks in these countries do not accept pinto Huculs which are quite popular in Poland. 

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:12 am

Wow! This model is fantastic!

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:07 pm

Thank you for your comments Magda and Elephants Rule!!!
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Btw, you wrote that chestnut is unacceptable in this breed - it's true only for Polish studbook. I've read that they are accepted in Romania,Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary - studbooks in these countries do not accept pinto Huculs which are quite popular in Poland. 
This is very interesting, I didn't know that! For me bay tobiano Hucul is perhaps the most typical colour :lol:Good to know it's only typical in Poland Very Happy

About his proportion, I'm not sure yet what with those legs. I measured his body length and height and he is 13cm long (of course not counting neck and head) and 12 high at withers so he is even few percent longer than higher. I'm not sure if shortening legs will change his proportion for better or worse scratch Maybe I will do a small simulation in Photoshop  Idea   

Well the work goes slowly further. I still didn't change the legs length and anything below knees and hocks isn't done yet. But I worked on mane and tail a bit. Tail is going to be longer than now but I must do it in two steps, probably the end of tail I will sculpt in different clay: Sculpey firm which I hope allows for creating thinner shapes, I will see (it must arrive first, just ordered today). Smile
I make also one of the ears bigger to match the size of other one, and the same with one of nostrils.
















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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:10 pm

Beautiful work Anna! Applause  cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:47 pm

Looks amazing! I love the mane. I love you
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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:56 pm

Love the mane I love you the way it's blowing in the wind, beautiful!

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:51 pm

Love this incredible figure Ana !!Very Happy Very Happy
 About Sculpey Firm what are the characteristics of this clay? It is easier to work than Super Sculpey?study 

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:47 pm

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About his proportion, I'm not sure yet what with those legs. I measured his body length and height and he is 13cm long (of course not counting neck and head) and 12 high at withers so he is even few percent longer than higher. I'm not sure if shortening legs will change his proportion for better or worse scratch Maybe I will do a small simulation in Photoshop  Idea
I think it's his thick neck that makes his body look a bit out of proportion - his withers aren't so pronounced. On THIS photo he looks OK scratch
Photoshop simulation sound like a great idea - maybe it'll help finding what is off about him :)

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:17 pm

Thank you so much for comments everyone!!!!! cheers cheers flower flower sunny sunny 

@Magda, yes I will play with photos in Photoshop tomorrow, will try with thinner neck and maybe few other options, possibly I will post effects here also.  cyclops

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:19 pm

A beautieful horse Anna, phantastic work Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause 

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:40 pm

He's incredible. I cannot wait to see him done. bounce 

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:01 am

Thank you for comments friends Very Happy cheers 

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Love this incredible figure Ana !!Very Happy Very Happy
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I forgot to answer. Well, I think Super Sculpey is much softer, however I will tell you for sure when the Sculpey Firm arrives (hopefully today or tomorrow) My hope is, if the Sculpey firm is harder it should also keep the thin shapes better scratch But I must just check it Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:58 pm

OK after some experiments in PS I'm perhaps even more confused about what's correct and what's not. I guess horses' body proportion can vary a lot in different individuals. Well you can see the effects here and judge if any look more or less natural to your eyes? scratch

This is original, not changed horse:


This one has bigger hindquarter and head


This one has thinner neck


And the last one has more rounded belly and hindquarters AND thinner neck


Any ideas?  Very Happy  Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:11 pm

I think the thinner neck looks good, but I'll leave that up to the people much more knowledgeable about horses and their anatomy than me. Wink Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:41 pm

I'm really impressed with all of the detail you get into your animals. The muscles all look so realistic!

I'm sorry: I don't think I'm much help on the size changes. After doing an image search for Hucul ponies, it looks to me like maybe the one with the bigger hindquarters and head looks better.
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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:58 pm

I'm also voting for thinner neck version :)

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:23 pm

Thanks so much for comments friends! flower 

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Yes, after reviewing today I think I will do that way study 

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:18 pm

Hi, I have photos of Hucul after few more steps. Still several things to do before finish but I thought I will share photos of him at this level  Very Happy













Also I found website of good polish photographer, plenty of Huculs' photos there, have a look and enjoy Very Happy    http://peckiel.pl/huculy/

I'm thinking about name for him as most of artist resin horses do have own name. I consider slavic name would fit best, something like Halny (it's name of wind blowing in mountains) Triglav (one of slavic gods) or Perun (also slavic god, one of his symbols was black horse) I don't know which one would be best, probably native English speakers could tell me more about which one sounds interesting? :DI can consider other options if none of them is good.

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:46 pm

Beautiful as always Anna! You are a master of sculpting Laughing The horse looks absolutely amazing! Applause Applause Applause 

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:03 pm

Looking really good!

For a name, Google translate tells me the Slovak word for "wind" is "vietor." I think Vietor or Perun sound nice. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:04 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:44 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:59 pm

Wonderful sculpting, there is a great sense of movement in the hair which is a nice contrast to the standing pose.
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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:40 pm

He's beautiful Anna! I like the name Halny.

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:29 am

Oh, the horse is already wonderful! cheers I also like best the name Halny, not only because of the meaning but I think it sounds very anglophone. The third name sounds terrible in Portuguese, somewhat like when a Portuguese bad talking person tries to say turkey in an underestimated way. geek
Fortunately it is not holny or it would sound a Chinese trying to explain how his holse was feeling. pale geek :opps: Oh, I am solly! Sad

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:24 am

He's stunning. It's incredible how much movement you gave him when he's just standing there. Applause cheers 

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:12 am

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:32 am

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:09 am

Thank you so much for all the good words friends sunny sunny sunny 

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For a name, Google translate tells me the Slovak word for "wind" is "vietor." I think Vietor or Perun sound nice. Very Happy
Yes, normally in Polish also it would be wiatr (read quite like vietor ) but halny is name for particular kind of wind, blowing only in mountain area, it's always quite strong and fast wind from South. It's also warm, very pleasant. Horses usually become excited and energetic when it blows Very Happy

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He's beautiful Anna!  I like the name Halny.
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Oh, the horse is already wonderful! :cheers:I also like best the name Halny, not only because of the meaning but I think it sounds very anglophone. The third name sounds terrible in Portuguese, somewhat like when a Portuguese bad talking person tries  to say turkey in an underestimated way. geek
Fortunately it is not holny or it would sound a Chinese trying to explain how his holse was feeling. palegeek :opps: Oh, I am solly! Sad


Wow, I think I will choose this name, thank you for advices Harriet and Roger! cheers

Roger, you are crazy, as always cheers cheers cheers  alien Very Happy 

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:26 am

He is already looking so beautiful - I cannot wait to see him painted!

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:49 pm

Thank you Miss Jane cheers cheers I hope to post some updates soon, I'm working yet on some details Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:56 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:57 pm

Hi ladies, any final painted photos yet? :-)
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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:56 pm

Very nice horse! Very Happy Very Happy Wink Wink cheers cheers affraid affraid 

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:14 pm

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Hi ladies, any final painted photos yet? :-)
It's big model so mould will be a bit of challenging. I would say, probably first photos of this horse painted can be expected in January. I'm still adding some details and small corrections to the model. :) Unless you wanted to ask about forest buffalos Numaan? Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:46 pm

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Hi ladies, any final painted photos yet? :-)
It's big model so mould will be a bit of challenging. I would say, probably first photos of this horse painted can be expected in January. I'm still adding some details and small corrections to the model. :) Unless you wanted to ask about forest buffalos Numaan?  Wink

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Yes, I meant forest buffalo's. I am eagerly waiting to see photos of the final painted versions of this model.  Very Happy 
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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:00 pm

I can´t wait to see the final results of this wonderfull figures (Hucul and forest buffalos) !!

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:36 pm

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Hi ladies, any final painted photos yet? :-)
It's big model so mould will be a bit of challenging. I would say, probably first photos of this horse painted can be expected in January. I'm still adding some details and small corrections to the model. :) Unless you wanted to ask about forest buffalos Numaan?  Wink

Hi Anna

Yes, I meant forest buffalo's. I am eagerly waiting to see photos of the final painted versions of this model.  Very Happy 

You can expect them this week, I have (finally) number of white copies ready to paint  Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:56 am

Hucul sculpture is finished, soon it will go to moulding! (moulding itself will be challenging because of its size   )









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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:32 pm

cheers cheers cheers I am glad to see this one finished now! He's really beautiful Anna! What color will you paint him?
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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:43 pm

It is wonderful that you have finished the figure. It's really impressive !!  Shocked Shocked cheers 

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:44 pm

Thank you for so nice comments! I'm very happy to read you like this figure! Very Happy

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cheers cheers cheers I am glad to see this one finished now! He's really beautiful Anna! What color will you paint him?



About color, haha, it will be difficult to decide but as it will be copied it may be possible to paint more than one color version of him. But, for first copy, I'm thinking about grullo tobiano or (bay) dun tobiano  Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:48 pm

Amazing work! I really like it.  Applause   cheers 
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PostSubject: Re: Hucul project, finished now! And it's called Wilga! :-)    Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:49 pm

Ana wrote:
Thank you for so nice comments! I'm very happy to read you like this figure! Very Happy

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cheers cheers cheers I am glad to see this one finished now! He's really beautiful Anna! What color will you paint him?



About color, haha, it will be difficult to decide but as it will be copied it may be possible to paint more than one color version of him. But, for first copy, I'm thinking about grullo tobiano or (bay) dun tobiano  Smile

I think tobiano will look nice on him.  sunny 
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