Forum dedicated to collectors of animal toy replicas
 
Toy animal WikiToy animal Wiki  HomeHome  CalendarCalendar  FAQFAQ  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  Dictionary  Animal Toy forum  

Share | 
 

 Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
AuthorMessage
Numaan
Moderator
avatar

Country/State : London, UK
Age : 37
Joined : 2010-06-18
Posts : 1361

PostSubject: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:29 pm

I came across the following three listings from different sellers selling vintage bronze cast 'antiques'.  I can't help but notice the similarities to Schleich models all of which are from the 21st century so not sure how these are classified as antiques.

Either the sellers are telling porkies or they really dont realise that the bronz sculpts are just modified copies of Schleich.  I do not want to get the sellers in trouble or anything, I just thought it is interesting to share with you.

Lion [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Tiger [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Kudu [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
trevok4

avatar

Country/State : london UK
Age : 17
Joined : 2012-08-23
Posts : 1200

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:46 pm

very strange kudu

_________________
T4
Back to top Go down
SUSANNE
Admin
avatar

Country/State : Denmark, the peninsula of Djursland.
Age : 65
Joined : 2010-09-30
Posts : 30813

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:11 pm

Thanks for sharing Applause 

Of course it could be Schleich copying an old bronze, - but the painting certainly is nothing near the style of the 1920 !!!Wink 

Good that he tries to play safe saying that he isn't an expert Laughing 

_________________
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] SUSANNE   [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Back to top Go down
http://dyr-og-dimser.dk
Saarlooswolfhound

avatar

Country/State : USA
Age : 21
Joined : 2012-06-16
Posts : 4409

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:41 pm

Wow, that is interesting. It's almost as if the "artist" aggrandized the figures. The tiger's feet are weird. Suspect scratch Laughing 

_________________
-"I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven’t got the guts to bite people themselves."-August Strindberg (However, anyone who knows me knows I love dogs  [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] )
-“We can try to kill all that is native, string it up by its hind legs for all to see, but spirit howls and wildness endures.”-Anonymous
Back to top Go down
LeeAnn
Moderator
avatar

Country/State : United States
Joined : 2013-01-20
Posts : 10263

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:58 pm

Look at the kudu. It's obvious the branding was hot-knifed off. Rolling Eyes I think this is very interesting. and I agree with Paige, the tiger has weird paws. Thank you very much for sharing Numaan! cheers

_________________
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] / [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] / [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
http://mistystarstudios.blogspot.com
landrover

avatar

Country/State : colombia
Age : 59
Joined : 2010-11-04
Posts : 2364

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:18 am


Wonderful animals,very rare.

Hard to get this antiques.

_________________
FERNANDO
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
widukind

avatar

Country/State : Germany
Age : 41
Joined : 2010-12-30
Posts : 26220

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:29 am

Very interesting, now i know why Schleich produce in china Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing 

_________________
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Andreas [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Back to top Go down
scot(t)

avatar

Country/State : USA
Age : 49
Joined : 2012-03-03
Posts : 3001

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:43 am

yeah, those are schleich models. I can't help wondering whether the seller knows that what is being sold is not any 80-year old antique.
Back to top Go down
krista

avatar

Country/State : finland
Age : 32
Joined : 2011-11-24
Posts : 498

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Tue Nov 26, 2013 3:22 pm

scot(t) wrote:
yeah, those are schleich models. I can't help wondering whether the seller knows that what is being sold is not any 80-year old antique.
Seems to me that someone's trying to make some easy money.
Have you looked up this Franz Bergman whose works these are supposed to be? His style is completely different.

Usually antique collectors know their stuff and what's worth anything... I doubt those figures will sell.

_________________
Krista || [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]


Last edited by krista on Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:08 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top Go down
http://zombiebambiraptor.blogspot.com/
AlienMantis

avatar

Country/State : Slovenia
Age : 29
Joined : 2012-09-03
Posts : 233

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:52 pm

They actuually sell Sad

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  22 bids

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  sold Sad

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

_________________
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
krista

avatar

Country/State : finland
Age : 32
Joined : 2011-11-24
Posts : 498

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:06 pm

AlienMantis wrote:
They actuually sell :(

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  22 bids

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  sold :(

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
OH NO! I guess the antique collectors don't visit toy shops often..
I feel so bad for these people. But I'd also like to inform them that the tiger is a fake...

_________________
Krista || [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
http://zombiebambiraptor.blogspot.com/
LeeAnn
Moderator
avatar

Country/State : United States
Joined : 2013-01-20
Posts : 10263

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:17 pm

I actually believe the tiger is a real Bergman bronze... there are enough differences from the Schleich one that it's very possible Schleich was copying off of Bergman or they are just very ironically similar. The tiger does not appear to have a marking hot knifed off it, and the marking appears genuine, looking at other photos. However, I'm pretty sure the lion and kudu are fake and Schleich copies.

_________________
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] / [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] / [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
http://mistystarstudios.blogspot.com
Shardur

avatar

Country/State : Germany
Age : 34
Joined : 2011-01-17
Posts : 101

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:22 pm

Perhaps the manufactorers just used the same tools (prototype / core) to cast the figurines either in bronze or in plastic. So none wuold be a fake. Just the motive is the same.
Back to top Go down
Numaan
Moderator
avatar

Country/State : London, UK
Age : 37
Joined : 2010-06-18
Posts : 1361

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:18 pm

This is such an interesting theory - could Schleich really have copied an antique design? Or is the tiger antique a total fake?

I thought the maker took a tiger copy and perhaps remoulded some parts to make it look different. If it is a fake then the ebay buyers are being ripped off. What is the truth? Certainly an interesting mystery. Kudu is undoubtedly a fake
Back to top Go down
Numaan
Moderator
avatar

Country/State : London, UK
Age : 37
Joined : 2010-06-18
Posts : 1361

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:25 pm

My goodness just did a search online and the Franz tiger appears on many websites including authentic antique sites -

See example link here where you see the tiger AND the lion!

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

The lion also appears here and looks very convincing:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Are you telling me that Schleich really copied these antiques?!

I have a theory - if Schleich did copy these then someone has probably taken a Schleich copy and tried to make it look like the old original authentic item because if you study the lion images in the links above they do look a little different to Schleich.

Anyway for interest I love the Franz Indian elephant - a fantastic set. Take a look:

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]


for reference, a different Franz Bronz tiger:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
AlienMantis

avatar

Country/State : Slovenia
Age : 29
Joined : 2012-09-03
Posts : 233

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:36 pm

I think, it's very weird for antique figurine to have a full body texture and to be chubby. I have the feeling, that all old figurines are tin and abit mangy.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] another original tiger.


_________________
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
scot(t)

avatar

Country/State : USA
Age : 49
Joined : 2012-03-03
Posts : 3001

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:26 pm

I now have no idea what to make of the Bronze Lion and its striking similarities to the Schleich. That is fascinating.
Back to top Go down
krista

avatar

Country/State : finland
Age : 32
Joined : 2011-11-24
Posts : 498

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:52 pm

Ok, now this got interesting....

It's possible that Bergman's style has developed during the years (wish there were accurate years on these models), but the other tigers (and his other stuff) are less detailed. Either the sculpting or the painting, depending on the figure.. The Schleich look-a-likes look almost plastic to me, the others have a different, more rough and metallic look on them..

Of course they could be real, but I'm suspicious... They don't look vintage to me, of course I'm not an expert on this area... :'D Though in the link that Numaan posted, the figures look more different and more authentic than in the Ebay links..
So this theory could be possible:
Numaan wrote:
I have a theory - if Schleich did copy these then someone has probably taken a Schleich copy and tried to make it look like the old original authentic item because if you study the lion images in the links above they do look a little different to Schleich.



And to mix things up a little bit more, this comes up a few times from Google image search when you search Franz Bergman:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
The source is again Ebay, but the auction has closed so it links only to the Ebay listing for "Viennese Bronze" or something.

:P

_________________
Krista || [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
http://zombiebambiraptor.blogspot.com/
LeeAnn
Moderator
avatar

Country/State : United States
Joined : 2013-01-20
Posts : 10263

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:06 pm

krista wrote:
And to mix things up a little bit more, this comes up a few times from Google image search when you search Franz Bergman:
The source is again Ebay, but the auction has closed so it links only to the Ebay listing for "Viennese Bronze" or something.
I noticed that one and if you keep scrolling further you will find the Schleich recent lizard as well. And there is another that looks like one of Schleich's elephant calves. There is also a bulldog that comes up a few times that is very similar in style to the Schleich-look-a-likes. Now I'm not so sure these are fakes. Did Schleich really copy these bronze figures, or did someone take Schleich figures and make them look like Bergman bronze? pale No confused Funny how we are all "fake, fake, fake" at first glance, then suddenly we're all undecided. Razz study

_________________
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] / [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] / [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
http://mistystarstudios.blogspot.com
Kikimalou
Admin
avatar

Country/State : Lille, FRANCE
Age : 52
Joined : 2010-04-01
Posts : 14835

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:44 am

Numaan wrote:


Anyway for interest I love the Franz Indian elephant - a fantastic set.  Take a look:

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]


for reference, a different Franz Bronz tiger:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Yes I would love Schleich would copied this elephant  cheers 

The most funny  Wink  here is an old "Franz Xavier Bergman" [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  Shocked 


And a [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  Laughing

And so it means Papo also copied Franz Xavier Bergman models.

I can't wait to see a Gaur by Franz Xavier Bergman, Maybe Anna copied it  Laughing 

_________________
Christophe
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
Kikimalou
Admin
avatar

Country/State : Lille, FRANCE
Age : 52
Joined : 2010-04-01
Posts : 14835

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:57 am

Some more  affraid affraid affraid affraid affraid 

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

_________________
Christophe
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
vcnbcn

avatar

Country/State : spain
Age : 50
Joined : 2014-01-14
Posts : 23

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:19 am

A very interesting case of copyright . . . And maybe answer to my question why Papo lioness so perfect and lion not , and Schleich Lion face so beauty comparing with Schleich lioness . Well , it's funny, at least
Back to top Go down
LeeAnn
Moderator
avatar

Country/State : United States
Joined : 2013-01-20
Posts : 10263

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:29 pm

This still makes me confused scratch

_________________
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] / [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] / [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
http://mistystarstudios.blogspot.com
Kikimalou
Admin
avatar

Country/State : Lille, FRANCE
Age : 52
Joined : 2010-04-01
Posts : 14835

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:31 pm

I think they are fakes  Wink 

_________________
Christophe
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
sortepletter

avatar

Country/State : Niedersachsen Germany
Age : 54
Joined : 2012-07-27
Posts : 604

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:53 pm

There are lots of well known bronze figurines on ebay.de too
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
schleich61



Country/State : Northern California, U.S.A.
Age : 56
Joined : 2010-03-30
Posts : 2053

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:01 pm

Kikimalou wrote:
Numaan wrote:


Anyway for interest I love the Franz Indian elephant - a fantastic set.  Take a look:

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]


for reference, a different Franz Bronz tiger:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Yes I would love Schleich would copied this elephant  cheers 

The most funny  Wink  here is an old "Franz Xavier Bergman" [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  Shocked 


And a [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  Laughing

And so it means Papo also copied Franz Xavier Bergman models.

I can't wait to see a Gaur by Franz Xavier Bergman, Maybe Anna copied it  Laughing 


The cheetah is magnificent. Papo and Schleich at least exhibited excellent taste in copying Bergman. As they say, "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery..."  Laughing 
Back to top Go down
http://www.schleichcollector.blogspot.com
vcnbcn

avatar

Country/State : spain
Age : 50
Joined : 2014-01-14
Posts : 23

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:35 pm

what a pity more Bergman models
Back to top Go down
scot(t)

avatar

Country/State : USA
Age : 49
Joined : 2012-03-03
Posts : 3001

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:36 am

So so strange. I have no idea what to make of it. The little woman inside the Crocodile is odd.
Back to top Go down
Kikimalou
Admin
avatar

Country/State : Lille, FRANCE
Age : 52
Joined : 2010-04-01
Posts : 14835

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:35 am

schleich61 wrote:
The cheetah is magnificent.  Papo and Schleich at least exhibited excellent taste in copying Bergman.  As they say, "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery..."  Laughing 

I'm not an expert, even not an aficionados of this kind of stuff but I use to have a look on Vienna Bronze animals for years now. I never saw these models before and I have a big doubt they are really old Vienna Bronze  confused

Also all these animals are on the English market, I can't find any of them in Germany or austria  confused 

Nevertheless, look at [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  Laughing

_________________
Christophe
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
schleich61



Country/State : Northern California, U.S.A.
Age : 56
Joined : 2010-03-30
Posts : 2053

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:38 am

Kikimalou wrote:
schleich61 wrote:
The cheetah is magnificent.  Papo and Schleich at least exhibited excellent taste in copying Bergman.  As they say, "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery..."  Laughing 

I'm not an expert, even not an aficionados of this kind of stuff but I use to have a look on Vienna Bronze animals for years now. I never saw these models before and I have a big doubt they are really old Vienna Bronze  confused

Also all these animals are on the English market, I can't find any of them in Germany or austria  confused 

Nevertheless, look at [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  Laughing

I defer to your superior knowledge of this (and many other!) subjects... cheers  Nice giraffe, by the way.
Back to top Go down
http://www.schleichcollector.blogspot.com
Kikimalou
Admin
avatar

Country/State : Lille, FRANCE
Age : 52
Joined : 2010-04-01
Posts : 14835

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:57 am

schleich61 wrote:


I defer to your superior knowledge of this (and many other!) subjects... cheers   Nice giraffe, by the way.

I know my "Superior" knowledge will melt like snow in summer if you begin to have a look at Vienna Cold-painted bronze.  cheers 

_________________
Christophe
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
Kikimalou
Admin
avatar

Country/State : Lille, FRANCE
Age : 52
Joined : 2010-04-01
Posts : 14835

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:27 pm

Another [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  Laughing 

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

And I guess the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  Wink 

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

_________________
Christophe
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
LeeAnn
Moderator
avatar

Country/State : United States
Joined : 2013-01-20
Posts : 10263

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:36 pm

Laughing 

_________________
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] / [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] / [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
http://mistystarstudios.blogspot.com
Bonobo

avatar

Country/State : Deutschland/Germany (NRW)
Age : 19
Joined : 2014-02-04
Posts : 655

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:36 pm

Kikimalou wrote:
Another [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  Laughing 

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

And I guess the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  Wink 

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

That´s definitely not funny! This is barefaced! (unverschämt) No#


Nothing against you, Animal_Figures_4U! Smile 
Back to top Go down
Kikimalou
Admin
avatar

Country/State : Lille, FRANCE
Age : 52
Joined : 2010-04-01
Posts : 14835

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:31 pm

Bonobo wrote:

That´s definitely not funny! This is barefaced! (unverschämt) No#


Nothing against you, Animal_Figures_4U! Smile 

dear Bonobo, did you spend enough time reading this topic ? The funny thing is someone is making Schleich copies and try to sell them as antiquities. There is nothing against Schleich here... Only against people who are doing these kind of things  Wink 

_________________
Christophe
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
vcnbcn

avatar

Country/State : spain
Age : 50
Joined : 2014-01-14
Posts : 23

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:11 pm

On e-bay results very suspicious : Schleich Lion with Papo lioness , great couple

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]



But what about this kind of "serious" places? ....


[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
Kikimalou
Admin
avatar

Country/State : Lille, FRANCE
Age : 52
Joined : 2010-04-01
Posts : 14835

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:34 pm

Again, I'm not a specialist but I spent time in the past on Vienna cold painted bronze animals. Never saw these one until now and the style is different from the models I already knew  scratch

Also, every sellers is telling us that they are very rare models... And they are everywhere now  What a Face

Everywhere ? Really ? I can't find any of them on Austria website or even French website...

_________________
Christophe
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]


Last edited by Kikimalou on Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:01 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top Go down
AlopexLagopus

avatar

Country/State : italy
Age : 40
Joined : 2013-04-26
Posts : 387

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:59 pm

1800$  lol! 

_________________
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Back to top Go down
Bonobo

avatar

Country/State : Deutschland/Germany (NRW)
Age : 19
Joined : 2014-02-04
Posts : 655

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:35 pm

Kikimalou wrote:
Bonobo wrote:

That´s definitely not funny! This is barefaced! (unverschämt) No#


Nothing against you, Animal_Figures_4U! Smile 

dear Bonobo, did you spend enough time reading this topic ? The funny thing is someone is making Schleich copies and try to sell them as antiquities. There is nothing against Schleich here... Only against people who are doing these kind of things  Wink 

I never say anything against schleich? confused 
Back to top Go down
Kikimalou
Admin
avatar

Country/State : Lille, FRANCE
Age : 52
Joined : 2010-04-01
Posts : 14835

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:43 pm

Bonobo wrote:
Kikimalou wrote:
Bonobo wrote:

That´s definitely not funny! This is barefaced! (unverschämt) No#


Nothing against you, Animal_Figures_4U! Smile 

dear Bonobo, did you spend enough time reading this topic ? The funny thing is someone is making Schleich copies and try to sell them as antiquities. There is nothing against Schleich here... Only against people who are doing these kind of things  Wink 

I never say anything against schleich? confused 

 Very Happy  Of course  Wink 

It seems Bonobos and macaques heve translation problems.  Laughing 

The barefaced monkey is a respectable old Vienna cold painted bronze, I thought it was a funny answer to something I suspect to be a fake  Very Happy 

_________________
Christophe
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
Bonobo

avatar

Country/State : Deutschland/Germany (NRW)
Age : 19
Joined : 2014-02-04
Posts : 655

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:48 pm

Kikimalou wrote:
Bonobo wrote:
Kikimalou wrote:
Bonobo wrote:

That´s definitely not funny! This is barefaced! (unverschämt) No#


Nothing against you, Animal_Figures_4U! Smile 

dear Bonobo, did you spend enough time reading this topic ? The funny thing is someone is making Schleich copies and try to sell them as antiquities. There is nothing against Schleich here... Only against people who are doing these kind of things  Wink 

I never say anything against schleich? confused 

 Very Happy  Of course  Wink 

It seems Bonobos and macaques heve translation problems.  Laughing 

The barefaced monkey is a respectable old Vienna cold painted bronze, I thought it was a funny answer to something I suspect to be a fake  Very Happy 

I mean the bearded dragon Wink Actually the seller.
Back to top Go down
Roger
Admin
avatar

Country/State : Portugal
Joined : 2010-08-20
Posts : 21802

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:26 pm

That is quite disturbing! Shocked I also don't know why I haven't seen it before! Sleep
I always think that people sees copies everywhere but no doubts these bronze figures are made from known pvc figures and making some people a little richer. affraid
The most confuse thing for me is that they are selling for high prices. It is hard to believe they are originals that modern brand copied before, why do bronze figures needed to have thick legs and be chubby... vintage safety? geek

_________________
~ Rogério [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Back to top Go down
She-Wolf

avatar

Country/State : Utah, USA
Age : 20
Joined : 2014-02-21
Posts : 68

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:14 am

I looked at Numaan's links, weird. The different tiger looks nothing like Schleich! And the elephant. Something fishy is going on around there...

_________________
My DeviantArt: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
My YouTube: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
sortepletter

avatar

Country/State : Niedersachsen Germany
Age : 54
Joined : 2012-07-27
Posts : 604

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:13 am

I just found other old favourites Very Happy 
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
this one looks like the English Bulldog from Bully
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
And they are not only copying Schleich - here's a Breyer-Bronze supposed to be from 1900-1930. That's funny because the Breyer model they obviously used was released in 1973 Very Happy 
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
Kikimalou
Admin
avatar

Country/State : Lille, FRANCE
Age : 52
Joined : 2010-04-01
Posts : 14835

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:25 am

affraid   Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing 

Maybe one of these days we will see an antique Celebes crested macaque bronze which will look like the Mojo one? Or a Gaur similar to the CollectA one ?

Really, Modern brands are incredible Laughing 

_________________
Christophe
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
Ana

avatar

Country/State : come from Poland now live in The Netherlands
Age : 30
Joined : 2010-04-01
Posts : 9636

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:37 am

Kikimalou wrote:
affraid   Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing 

Maybe one of these days we will see an antique Celebes crested macaque bronze which will look like the Mojo one? Or a Gaur similar to the CollectA one ?

Really, Modern brands are incredible Laughing 

Gaur is not CollectA  Wink
Anyway I would feel a bit disturbed if they copied Mojo figures this way. Copying Schleich, Bully or any other toy company and sell as antiques is all the same - cheating: both companies and customers.
Someone wants to make money cheating other people - I hate this kind of situation Sad

_________________
Anna
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
http://www.horseandbird.com
LeeAnn
Moderator
avatar

Country/State : United States
Joined : 2013-01-20
Posts : 10263

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:49 pm

Ana wrote:
Kikimalou wrote:
affraid   Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing 

Maybe one of these days we will see an antique Celebes crested macaque bronze which will look like the Mojo one? Or a Gaur similar to the CollectA one ?

Really, Modern brands are incredible Laughing 

Gaur is not CollectA  Wink
Anyway I would feel a bit disturbed if they copied Mojo figures this way.  Copying Schleich, Bully or any other toy company and sell as antiques is all the same - cheating: both companies and customers.
Someone wants to make money cheating other people - I hate this kind of situation  Sad

You hit the nail on the head.  Basketball 

_________________
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] / [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] / [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
http://mistystarstudios.blogspot.com
Kikimalou
Admin
avatar

Country/State : Lille, FRANCE
Age : 52
Joined : 2010-04-01
Posts : 14835

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:59 pm

Ana wrote:
Kikimalou wrote:
affraid   Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing 

Maybe one of these days we will see an antique Celebes crested macaque bronze which will look like the Mojo one? Or a Gaur similar to the CollectA one ?

Really, Modern brands are incredible Laughing 

Gaur is not CollectA  Wink
Anyway I would feel a bit disturbed if they copied Mojo figures this way.  Copying Schleich, Bully or any other toy company and sell as antiques is all the same - cheating: both companies and customers.
Someone wants to make money cheating other people - I hate this kind of situation  Sad

Incredible crazy macaques...  geek  Of course Anna, Gaur is NOT CollectA, I apologize  Embarassed   Wink 

And yes, I also hate this kind of people!

_________________
Christophe
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
Ana

avatar

Country/State : come from Poland now live in The Netherlands
Age : 30
Joined : 2010-04-01
Posts : 9636

PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:58 pm

Kikimalou wrote:
Ana wrote:
Kikimalou wrote:
affraid   Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing 

Maybe one of these days we will see an antique Celebes crested macaque bronze which will look like the Mojo one? Or a Gaur similar to the CollectA one ?

Really, Modern brands are incredible Laughing 

Gaur is not CollectA  Wink
Anyway I would feel a bit disturbed if they copied Mojo figures this way.  Copying Schleich, Bully or any other toy company and sell as antiques is all the same - cheating: both companies and customers.
Someone wants to make money cheating other people - I hate this kind of situation  Sad

Incredible crazy macaques...  geek  Of course Anna, Gaur is NOT CollectA, I apologize  Embarassed   Wink 


No worries Kiki Laughing

_________________
Anna
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
http://www.horseandbird.com
Sponsored content




PostSubject: Re: Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........   

Back to top Go down
 
Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........
View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 1 of 1
 Similar topics
-
» Curious "Antiques" on Ebay.........
» A selection from Kensington Antiques Whangarei shapes 14 - 75 - 612
» Found this posting on ebay...
» Peterborough Festival of Antiques
» Maastricht Art & Antiques Fair 18th - 27th March 2011

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
STS Forum  :: Animal toy figures reviews and discussions :: General reviews and discussions-
Jump to: