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PostSubject: Famous animals that major brands (incredibly) still didn't do   Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:26 pm

Hi guys,
in this topic I'd like to talk with you about the famous animals that brands like Schleich, Safari, Papo, Collecta, Mojo and Bullyland should add to their catalogues as soon as possible.
Birds:
African Gray Parrot (probably the most intelligent bird)
Cockatiel
Lovebirds (maybe budgie's successors from Schleich)
Kingfisher
Heron
Wood Duck
Canadian Goose
Crowned Gru
Eopope
Military macaw
Quetzeal (The Safari one from the toob is ugly)

Mammals:
Echidna,
Ocelot
Clouded leopard
Rex Cheetah (the striped variation of the cheetah)
Pika
Lemming
Petit Griffon de la Vendeen
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PostSubject: Re: Famous animals that major brands (incredibly) still didn't do   Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:37 pm

That's interesting. I'll tell you mine. Though, there is a Bullyland grey heron, a Mojo clouded leopard and a CollectA king cheetah.
Some others can also be found in other modern brands although we don't call them major brands. Very Happy
For example, the Science&Nature Echidna or Maia & Borges wood duck. Very Happy
Though, that list is much harder to make than it was 3 or 4 years ago. Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Famous animals that major brands (incredibly) still didn't do   Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:46 pm

Schleich desperately needs a flamingo. Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: Famous animals that major brands (incredibly) still didn't do   Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:55 pm

1. Babi rusa
2. Maleo bird
3. Green jungle fowl ( I really want it so bad )

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PostSubject: Re: Famous animals that major brands (incredibly) still didn't do   Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:05 pm

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Petit Griffon de la Vendeen
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Tell me yours

What is this, i only find a dog if i search in the internet.Very Happy 

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PostSubject: Re: Famous animals that major brands (incredibly) still didn't do   Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:06 pm

Okay, main brands have not this figurines but most of the you can find by smaller brands Very Happy 

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PostSubject: Re: Famous animals that major brands (incredibly) still didn't do   Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:11 pm

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Petit Griffon de la Vendeen
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Tell me yours

What is this, i only find a dog if i search in the internet.Very Happy 
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PostSubject: Re: Famous animals that major brands (incredibly) still didn't do   Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:13 pm

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Petit Griffon de la Vendeen
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Tell me yours

What is this, i only find a dog if i search in the internet.Very Happy 
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PostSubject: Re: Famous animals that major brands (incredibly) still didn't do   Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:14 pm

Rex Cheetah - is he the same as King Cheetah? scratch 

If that's the case, CollectA did one for 2013 sunny 

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PostSubject: Re: Famous animals that major brands (incredibly) still didn't do   Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:37 pm

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Rex Cheetah - is he the same as King Cheetah? scratch 

If that's the case, CollectA did one for 2013 sunny 
You're right

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PostSubject: Re: Famous animals that major brands (incredibly) still didn't do   Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:40 pm

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Petit Griffon de la Vendeen
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Tell me yours

What is this, i only find a dog if i search in the internet.Very Happy 
Yes, this dog is well known in France and even in Italy is quite famous

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PostSubject: Re: Famous animals that major brands (incredibly) still didn't do   Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:51 pm

Probably the problem is that companies think too much about children customers who buy figures as toys: a grey parrot like the African or the cockatiel isn't actractive as a colorful macaw for a child, a mallard is more familiar than a wood duck. It will be great if they start with rare animals as an educational program, collectors will finally have rare species and children will learn new animals

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PostSubject: Re: Famous animals that major brands (incredibly) still didn't do   Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:11 am

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Probably the problem is that companies think too much about children customers who buy figures as toys: a grey parrot like the African or the cockatiel isn't actractive as a colorful macaw for a child, a mallard is more familiar than a wood duck. It will be great if they start with rare animals as an educational program, collectors will finally have rare species and children will learn new animals
You i think there is a little change (is the reason this forum????Laughing Laughing Laughing ). Look all the phantastic species of the last 3 years from CollectA. And also Mojö and i think Safari have also a lot of interesting species. And i think next year is also Schleich not bad. But the reason for Main brands is the money. And so they are more produce for childrens as for collectors. But in the last years i think it is much better. And we collectors, i am a specie collector and so i know what you mean, we have also a big lot of small brands.

There are 8 phantastic ducks made by AAA (i think also a wood duck) and also a canadian goose by New Ray

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PostSubject: Re: Famous animals that major brands (incredibly) still didn't do   Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:13 am

What you mean with this?

Crowned Gru
Eopope

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PostSubject: Re: Famous animals that major brands (incredibly) still didn't do   Sat Dec 07, 2013 2:49 pm

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What you mean with this?

Crowned Gru
Eopope
Sorry, translation mistakes, i meant Crowned crane and hoopoe, there was a crowned crane by Starlux and an hoopoe by Kaiyodo but I want them from major brands. Oh, and I've got the AAA wood duck but first it is too big, and second I don't think AAA is a major brand

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PostSubject: Re: Famous animals that major brands (incredibly) still didn't do   Sat Dec 07, 2013 3:01 pm

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What you mean with this?

Crowned Gru
Eopope
Sorry, translation mistakes, i meant Crowned crane and hoopoe, there was a crowned crane by Starlux and an hoopoe by Kaiyodo but I want them from major brands. Oh, and I've got the AAA wood duck but first it is too big, and second I don't think AAA is a major brand
Okay.

But AAA ducks exists also as smaller versions Very Happy 

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PostSubject: Major brands?   Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:14 pm

But what is a major brand?

The babi rusa was made by Starlux which was a major brand in France and sold well in Italy too.

As someone wrote, companys made animals mainly for children so usually all brands do tigers, lions, zebras and other iconic zoo animals. But nearly all brands has done some more unknown species.

Then some animals became famous through tv or films, No one wanted to see or have a meerkat 50 years ago - now there are plenty (not in my collection-scale 1:32, what I know).

A good thing about a forum like this is that You could get suggestions from other members... santa 

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PostSubject: Re: Famous animals that major brands (incredibly) still didn't do   Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:39 am

Well, Lennart is right, the concept of major brand is not very objective indeed. Starlux, Britains and many other are major brands. Very Happy
Though, we here use it as a kind of neologism where major brands are western current brands that produce animals in standard scale.
And what is a standard scale? Another neologism to describe figures that fit in standardized sizes represent by color tags.
I mean these tags with colored dots corresponding to small, medium, large and extra-large. Of course they don't represent a real scale but a way to make figures fit in a specific price.
Brands that follow this method are Bullyland, Schleich, Safari, Papo, CollectA and Mojo! Also, most of the figures of these brands are relatively compatible and the average size is represented by farm collections where figures fit roughly with 1:20 scale. It is determined by the size of human figures as it always happened in toy animal history.
Human figures of "major brands" are determinant to make other products like stables, accessories and some animals like horses and now dogs are following the same scale in some brands.
Every hobby of the world needs some neologisms when they're missing culturally. So, calling major brands to these 6 and standard size or scale to this kind of figures seems to be a good approach unless someone can find anything better. Very Happy
Now only some examples, Safari TOOB figures cannot be considered standard sized once they are not placed in one of these color tag prices. Some sea life and prehistoric animals that have their own scale also don't fit in this concept as well as for example Safari Wildlife Wonders.
As a good rule, there are always exceptions, some Deluxe sized animals can be considered standard sized as it happens with Papo tigress with nursing cubs, Mojo gaur, etc. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Famous animals that major brands (incredibly) still didn't do   Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:48 am

Bongo of course  scratch  Isn't it incredible ?  Laughing 

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PostSubject: Re: Famous animals that major brands (incredibly) still didn't do   Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:03 pm

Some animals that everyone knows but that were never made by a major brand. I can list many more! Very Happy
Least weasel
European mink
common genet
African civet
wild cat
wild goat
leopard seal
Bonobo
Impala

Birds are many, some examples:
common cuckoo
blackbird
sparrow
albatross
grey parrot

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PostSubject: Re: Famous animals that major brands (incredibly) still didn't do   Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:49 pm

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Some animals that everyone knows but that were never made by a major brand. I can list many more! Very Happy
Least weasel
European mink
common genet
African civet
wild cat
wild goat
leopard seal
Bonobo
Impala

Birds are many, some examples:
common cuckoo
blackbird
sparrow
albatross
grey parrot

Roger, Roger...  Laughing 
"...major brands are western current brands that produce animals in standard scale..."
Are not such criteria a "scary compendium of discriminatory principles"?  Razz 
Have the companies like CollectA or Mojo really western (or rather Asian) origin?!

Ignoring these crazy criteria for "major" brand and "standard" scale, You will see that some missing species of your list are available:
Kaiyodo - Least weasel, common cuckoo, albatross (more, standing or flying), sparrow, wild cat (Asian, iriomote),
Kitan Club - albatross,
AAA/ELC - wild cat (Eurasian),
Nayab - bonobo, wild goat,
Ravensburger - impala (and from older companies as Jeol, Starlux as well)...
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PostSubject: Re: Famous animals that major brands (incredibly) still didn't do   Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:02 pm

For me the famous brands are those, which everybody can get Wink Most of Toyshops have CollectA, Schleich, Safari, Papo, Mojo and Bullyland. You can find those over the whole world, and when not...a lot of internet shops have them.
For your examples Jarda, not everybody has the chance to get Kaiyodos, Nayabs or PV Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Famous animals that major brands (incredibly) still didn't do   Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:09 pm

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For me the famous brands are those, which everybody can get ;)Most of Toyshops have CollectA, Schleich, Safari, Papo, Mojo and Bullyland. You can find those over the whole world, and when not...a lot of internet shops have them.
For your examples Jarda, not everybody has the chance to get Kaiyodos, Nayabs or PV Wink

But if you buy in internetshops you can also buy on ebay.com and here you can find ever Kaiyodo und sometimes Nayab and PV  sunny sunny 

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PostSubject: Re: Famous animals that major brands (incredibly) still didn't do   Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:16 pm

I've always defined "major brands" as those that produce figures in the solid, hard plastic material and are easily accessible by main outlets. This means it's not a brand that sells to other brands or is listed exclusively as a different brand (ex. Mojo partnered with Animal Planet, but Animal Planet is not selling the figures in their name. They're sold as Mojo with Animal Planet). That excludes brands like Nayab, PV, AAA, and figures of a similar material marked "CHINA". What I mean by "main outlet" would exclude auction sites like eBay, as that's a site where anyone can sell whatever. Places like TGF or MPV are one single distributer.

"Major brands" a difficult term to define simply, it's more in the details than in the facts. The best way to think of it is to just recognize the major brands for what they are, the "major brands." (CollectA, Mojo, Schleich, Safari, Papo, and Bullyland)

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PostSubject: Re: Famous animals that major brands (incredibly) still didn't do   Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:56 pm

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Roger, Roger... Laughing
"...major brands are western current brands that produce animals in standard scale..."
Are not such criteria a "scary compendium of discriminatory principles"? Razz
Have the companies like CollectA or Mojo really western (or rather Asian) origin?!

Ignoring these crazy criteria for "major" brand and "standard" scale, You will see that some missing species of your list are available:
Kaiyodo - Least weasel, common cuckoo, albatross (more, standing or flying), sparrow, wild cat (Asian, iriomote),
Kitan Club - albatross,
AAA/ELC - wild cat (Eurasian),
Nayab - bonobo, wild goat,
Ravensburger - impala (and from older companies as Jeol, Starlux as well)...

Jarda, thanks for giving some examples of brands that released these species. I know most of them if not all but it is always interesting. :)
Let me see if I can pass better my message. anytime you use a certain concept to describe anything, it is a descriminatory thing. For example, even when you say Western, it is a way of discriminating two parts. Though, try to think I live in an Island in the middle of Pacific Ocean. Japan and China are Western in my point of view and USA is Eastern. SoSafari Ltd, couldn't be considered a major brand under this concept for me. Laughing
Now another point, CollectA and Mojö Fun are based in Hong Kong, Eastern for our discriminatory way of seeing our planet. Though, they produce figures mainly to fit the standards of markets like European and North American. it allows these companies of having toys suitable to all countries of the world giving them a global and major market. It also explains why they are called Western brands.
Now the most important part for you, discriminating is only a scary thing when it implies a pejorative or derogatory attitude. I can ensure you that when any member of this forum uses major brand to describe this group of companies, doesn't have that attitude and is not saying that other brands are minor. Is just a way to optimize communication. Now can you ensure me the same in your comment that deserved that reply from me?

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