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PostSubject: Re: Geospiza fortis' Animal Models-- Glyptodon model to possibly be cast   Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:07 pm

^Thanks.
Does anyone know if the caribou has one or two forward 'sweeps' on the antlers? I gave mine one like the Schleich model, but I can't quite make out the reference photos of the real animals I've been using.
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PostSubject: Re: Geospiza fortis' Animal Models-- Glyptodon model to possibly be cast   Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:35 pm

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^Thanks.
Does anyone know if the caribou has one or two forward 'sweeps' on the antlers? I gave mine one like the Schleich model, but I can't quite make out the reference photos of the real animals I've been using.

I guess it depends on what you mean as well as the subspecies and individual animal. In a normal healthy bulls the southern populations have larger antlers then northern populations, in fact as a proportion to size they have the largest antlers to body size ratio of any deer and the second largest antlers (second only to the moose) in the world. Each antler has two parts an upper and a much smaller lower part. I'm guessing you are talking about the lower parts when you say "sweeps", and there are two, one per antler. Since your model has a southern form, there is a very common growth pattern where these lower parts actually touch and being such fast growing, fuse together, forming a single piece in large adult males. With that pattern you could make a figure with either separate or a single lower antler and it would still be anatomically accurate.
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PostSubject: Re: Geospiza fortis' Animal Models-- Glyptodon model to possibly be cast   Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:07 am

Welcome here! Such beautiful work you have, I love the penguin! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Geospiza fortis' Animal Models-- Glyptodon model to possibly be cast   Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:39 am

Thank you animalluvr, for the compliments. Thanks to Phil, as well for the information. My antler not attatched to the forward bit is having stability problems, but I guess if the two sides are fused together in front, the connection would strengthen it. Two birds with one stone.
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PostSubject: Re: Geospiza fortis' Animal Models-- Glyptodon model to possibly be cast   Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:17 am

I always called the "sweeps" shovels, and I think that's the correct term though I may be wrong. Anyways, yes they have two shovels on the front of their antlers, though they can be very differently shaped, not always symmetrical.

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PostSubject: Re: Geospiza fortis' Animal Models-- Glyptodon model to possibly be cast   Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:54 am

Fortis, I think the penguin you made is wonderful ! Very Happy  Very Happy 
The pose, the wings, the fold over the feet , which made me think it was a male with an egg .

Perhaps I am a bit weird, but I like a model to be just as YOU see it, and not neccesarily completely accurate .
Most great artists did and don't make accurate models...look at Mona Lisa's smile  Very Happy 
To me it has enormous charm, and I think you should leave it as it is.
Then perhaps you can make one more later, if you want Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Geospiza fortis' Animal Models-- Glyptodon model to possibly be cast   Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:47 pm

Thanks and yes, I will leave his leg proportions as they are. I agree with what you said about accuracy. Although I like things 100% perfect, I don't give up on a model because of a difficult-to-fix error which gives it, as you said, charm. Jurassic Park is still my favorite movie although the deinonychus are bald and have broken wrists (two out of a myriad of problems).
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PostSubject: New Emperor Penguin   Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:37 am

Apologies for double-posting, but I have just completed the sculpting process of my second penguin.
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What do you think? I used the feedback given to me on the first one to help in the making of the second.
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PostSubject: Re: Geospiza fortis' Animal Models-- Glyptodon model to possibly be cast   Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:39 am

Great! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Geospiza fortis' Animal Models-- Glyptodon model to possibly be cast   Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:06 am

You don't need to apologize for double posting  Wink  You are not alone  Laughing

Your Emperor penguin is far better than the previous one, I love it  Applause 

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PostSubject: Re: Geospiza fortis' Animal Models-- Glyptodon model to possibly be cast   Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:27 pm

Thanks To the both of you. I'll probably start painting today or tomorrow. I also have my caribou ready to bake and I took pictures to show here before baking, but I am having technical problems with my computer. I'll post pictures here when it works.
Another question- does anyone know if I should paint the penguins black and add white or white and add black? I've been wondering this for a while. Thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: Geospiza fortis' Animal Models-- Glyptodon model to possibly be cast   Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:18 pm

The new one looks great and has very realistic proportions! Congratulations! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Geospiza fortis' Animal Models-- Glyptodon model to possibly be cast   Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:27 pm

I would do white and then black when painting. Great job, I love them both!

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PostSubject: Re: Geospiza fortis' Animal Models-- Glyptodon model to possibly be cast   Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:37 pm

Thank you. I agree with the white/black idea. I just hope the paint isn't too thick for the patterning, but I guess if I airbrush the white it won't be much of problem. I'm still troubled with error code 43, but when I find a solution I will post pics of my caribou.  rendeer

EDIT: I went through a complicated process involving using another camera and another person's computer, and I have some photos to share. He isn't baked yet, but is just about ready to be. Here come the pictures:





Is there any way he could be better or more accurate? I was also wondering if there is a way t remove the crumbs on his hair. If not, he's ready to bake.  Wink 
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PostSubject: Re: Geospiza fortis' Animal Models-- Glyptodon model to possibly be cast   Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:07 am

@Saarlooswolfhound wrote:
I always called the "sweeps" shovels, and I think that's the correct term though I may be wrong. Anyways, yes they have two shovels on the front of their antlers, though they can be very differently shaped, not always symmetrical.
That's what I always called them too. The reindeer/caribou uses them as the name implies to "shovel" away snow to reach feed.
Great job, he looks great. His legs could be a bit longer though.  Wink 
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PostSubject: Re: Geospiza fortis' Animal Models-- Glyptodon model to possibly be cast   Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:31 am

Yeah, we discussed the leg thing before. I don't like it, but because of the structure I cannot make them longer (or shorter, if I wanted to). In my defense, I think domestic reindeer have shorter legs. Anyway, Thanks. Since I don't see any glaringly obvious anatomical flaws, I guess he's ready to bake. I think I'll bake him tomorrow, and I hope I'm able to post pics here. Have a great holiday.
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PostSubject: Re: Geospiza fortis' Animal Models-- Glyptodon model to possibly be cast   Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:31 am

@Geospiza fortis wrote:
Yeah, we discussed the leg thing before. I don't like it, but because of the structure I cannot make them longer (or shorter, if I wanted to). In my defense, I think domestic reindeer have shorter legs. Anyway, Thanks. Since I don't see any glaringly obvious anatomical flaws, I guess he's ready to bake. I think I'll bake him tomorrow, and I hope I'm able to post pics here. Have a great holiday.
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No need to defend yourself, he looks great!  Applause The legs on some reindeer are shorter.  rendeer 
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PostSubject: Re: Geospiza fortis' Animal Models-- Glyptodon model to possibly be cast   Thu Dec 26, 2013 5:40 am

As I have said before about other models, each animal is unique, they do not all look the same. I love your reindeer.  Very Happy Can't wait to see him painted!  bounce rendeer 

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PostSubject: Re: Geospiza fortis' Animal Models-- Glyptodon model to possibly be cast   Thu Dec 26, 2013 5:49 am

@Saarlooswolfhound wrote:
I love your reindeer.  Very Happy Can't wait to see him painted!  bounce rendeer 

Thanks. I always like the way each individual is different, since it makes overall scale a lot easier. He will be painted soon. If I bake him tomorrow he should get his first coat of white, as my penguins are getting their second. Currently in the works are an identical pair of dolphins, for a friend and I.
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PostSubject: Re: Geospiza fortis' Animal Models-- Glyptodon model to possibly be cast   Thu Dec 26, 2013 6:48 am

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Is there any way he could be better or more accurate? I was also wondering if there is a way t remove the crumbs on his hair. If not, he's ready to bake.  Wink 

Can remove the crumbs carefully with the tip if a pin, wipe pin clean after each spot is fixed. Alternatively you can brush most off after baking, but I prefer the first method even though it's time consuming.
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PostSubject: Re: Geospiza fortis' Animal Models-- Glyptodon model to possibly be cast   Thu Dec 26, 2013 8:28 am

I LOVE your reindeer ! He is full of charm and personality  cheers 

The second penguin is lovely also, but I still find the first one fantastic  Applause 

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PostSubject: Re: Geospiza fortis' Animal Models-- Glyptodon model to possibly be cast   Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:01 pm

Thank you for the info and comment. He's baked now. I have a question, though, now that he's baked, I tried to cut off the little bit of the wire which was running out of the feet, and There's still a tiny bit left. enough to hold him above the ground a little. I tried cutting this little bit off of the hind legs and they both split in half at the cleft in the hoof. Mad  The front legs are still suspended above the ground. Is there a way to cut the wire so that it is smooth with the bottom of the foot? I can't paint him until I figure out a solution. Thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: Geospiza fortis' Animal Models-- Glyptodon model to possibly be cast   Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:37 am

@Geospiza fortis wrote:
Thank you for the info and comment. He's baked now. I have a question, though, now that he's baked, I tried to cut off the little bit of the wire which was running out of the feet, and There's still a tiny bit left. enough to hold him above the ground a little. I tried cutting this little bit off of the hind legs and they both split in half at the cleft in the hoof.  Mad  The front legs are still suspended above the ground. Is there a way to cut the wire so that it is smooth with the bottom of the foot? I can't paint him until I figure out a solution. Thanks.

Instead of cutting try filing with a small metal file  Smile 
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PostSubject: Re: Geospiza fortis' Animal Models-- Glyptodon model to possibly be cast   Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:04 pm

Nice reindeer too  cheers cheers cheers cheers 

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PostSubject: Re: Geospiza fortis' Animal Models-- Glyptodon model to possibly be cast   Fri Dec 27, 2013 3:44 pm

Thanks for the comment and assistance. I am only learning (as you can obviously see from my product), so I don't yet have a proper procedure for everything figured out yet.  Smile 
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