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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sat 04 Jan 2014, 14:33

I wonder if these will lower the value of the older angus that usually sell for a good chunk of money here in the US?

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sat 04 Jan 2014, 15:03

Interesting since I don't have the old Angus.
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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sat 04 Jan 2014, 15:59

Hm... yup that was my prognosis.  Wink Interesting though, I might have to get the Herefords if nothing else, that's what my grandfather raised for decades.  Very Happy 

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sat 04 Jan 2014, 16:23

I asked Schleich about them. On monday we should know more!

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sat 04 Jan 2014, 17:40

OK, people who payed big money for old Angus cattle, say MUUUU... Me first  Mad 

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sat 04 Jan 2014, 18:26

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OK, people who payed big money for old Angus cattle, say MUUUU... Me first  Mad 
That may be why they have chosen to "bring them back" now...  Rolling Eyes 

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sat 04 Jan 2014, 19:26

Ajajjajaja jajaj hahahhahahah
That's why they started the resaled of the old model of cows!
Even there web site is not updated like many years back with the new models in of every year?"
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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sun 05 Jan 2014, 14:03

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Take a look here. Just Remakes of the previus models. They changed the fur modelling and the ears a bit. And the colour slightly.

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oh how boring! Why couldn't they make new sculptures?

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sun 05 Jan 2014, 14:15

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Take a look here. Just Remakes of the previus models. They changed the fur modelling and the ears a bit. And the colour slightly.

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oh how boring!  Why couldn't they make new sculptures?

You know Harriet! First it is much cheaper to use the same molds. Then, the most part of Schleich customers don't have a pale idea that these figures existed before. Then, the brand, under these last administration, always showed lack of interest with collectors. Remember that when a rare figure is sold on EBAY for a huge amount, it doesn't represent a direct profit to the company. Though, they probably don't know that it gives prestige to the brand and there are a little group of customers that only buy Schleich suspecting that they will have one day a high value, the known Superpinto sydrome, that is an unexpressive slice of market but a symptom of a commercially healthy company. Very Happy
Sometimes I think that they will reuse the pinto mold and sell it with the pattern of the special edition. Unlikely but it won't surprise me at all. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sun 05 Jan 2014, 14:39

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sun 05 Jan 2014, 15:51

I'm happy the sculpts aren't new. If they were, I'm sure they'd be no exception to the huge eyes and other features characteristic of many of the new Schleich animals.
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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sun 05 Jan 2014, 16:06

Usually I'm against stuff like that, but those were really good figurines back in the day, and with new texture they look better than most of the 2014 releases!

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sun 05 Jan 2014, 22:53

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sun 05 Jan 2014, 23:19

If you go on ebay and type in "schleich 2014 cow", it gives you all the pictures.

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sun 05 Jan 2014, 23:33

They did make some small alterations it looks like. I think the new pattern makes the figure look like new, though you can still tell its the same mould.

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Mon 06 Jan 2014, 00:33

The only new mold appears to be the Hereford cow, and maybe a slight alteration on the angus cow's head.

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Mon 06 Jan 2014, 00:42

I guess that's what I meant since the Hereford cows picture was compared to the older figure. Should have been more clear, sorry.  Smile 

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Mon 06 Jan 2014, 01:08

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Mon 06 Jan 2014, 06:52

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Mon 06 Jan 2014, 15:54

I wish that they had at least tried to improve the angus bull a little. Something about the head never seemed right, and the sides were always to flat. At least it give me a chance to get the cow, which I searched for but never found.  Laughing 

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Mon 06 Jan 2014, 15:55

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I wonder if these will lower the value of the older angus that usually sell for a good chunk of money here in the US?
THat is what I was wondering too.
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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Mon 06 Jan 2014, 16:48

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Take a look here. Just Remakes of the previus models. They changed the fur modelling and the ears a bit. And the colour slightly.

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oh how boring!  Why couldn't they make new sculptures?

You know Harriet! First it is much cheaper to use the same molds. Then, the most part of Schleich customers don't have a pale idea that these figures existed before. Then, the brand, under these last administration, always showed lack of interest with collectors. Remember that when a rare figure is sold on EBAY for a huge amount, it doesn't represent a direct profit to the company. Though, they probably don't know that it gives prestige to the brand and there are a little group of customers that only buy Schleich suspecting that they will have one day a high value, the known Superpinto sydrome, that is an unexpressive slice of market but a symptom of a commercially healthy company. Very Happy
Sometimes I think that they will reuse the pinto mold and sell it with the pattern  of the special edition. Unlikely but it won't surprise me at all. Very Happy
Yes, I guessed that was why. Still, a rather big disappointment though, they're turning into Papo.

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Mon 06 Jan 2014, 23:04

I apologize if I'm just missing something that someone has already established in their comments in this thread, but I just want to make sure that I'm correct in thinking that (1) the Black Angus trio are reissues -- that is, Schleich is re-using the old Black Angus bull, cow, and calf molds; and that (2) the Hereford trio are the old Simmental bull, cow, and calf molds which are being painted differently. Are both of these suggestions correct?

I know someone put forward the thought that one or more of the Hereford molds may have been changed slightly from the Simmental mold. Are we sure about that? Or was this more in the area of speculation? (I'm honestly just curious. I don't mean to be challenging anyone at all; far from it.)

The Simmental/Hereford Repaints don't surprise me at all. Even re-releasing the Black Angus trio doesn't surprise me. For some reason, what surprises me the most is that Schleich is assigning new identification numbers to the Black Angus trio. The old Bull/Cow/Calf set (retired in 2007 I think) was 13282/13269/13270. The new Bull/Cow/Calf set is 13766/13767/13768. Why would they do this?

I guess it really isn't that odd and I shouldn't find it surprising. After all, Schleich has already done exactly this with the Spotted Hyena: Same mold, re-releasing a retired model, but releasing it under a new identification number.

Collectors can tell the difference between the two Hyenas. I wonder if the same will be true for the Black Angus Cattle.
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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Mon 06 Jan 2014, 23:14

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At least it gives me a chance to get the cow, which I searched for but never found.  Laughing 

This also makes me happy.

I absolutely love both the Schleich Simmental and the Black Angus sets. They are not only some of my favorite cattle models, and not only some of my favorite Schleich models, but some of my absolutely favorite models, period. So really, it's pretty great that they're being made available. (And like Robert mentioned above, I am someone who paid an arm and a leg for the Black Angus set. I got them when I first started collecting and I had completely fallen in love with the models. I REALLY overpaid for them. I'm too embarrassed to admit how much the three together cost me. Yikes!)
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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Tue 07 Jan 2014, 00:19

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The cows are already on Happy Hen. The old Angus are sold as a set on the bottom of the page.

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Tue 07 Jan 2014, 00:30

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I apologize if I'm just missing something that someone has already established in their comments in this thread, but I just want to make sure that I'm correct in thinking that (1) the Black Angus trio are reissues -- that is, Schleich is re-using the old Black Angus bull, cow, and calf molds; and that (2) the Hereford trio are the old Simmental bull, cow, and calf molds which are being painted differently. Are both of these suggestions correct?

I know someone put forward the thought that one or more of the Hereford molds may have been changed slightly from the Simmental mold. Are we sure about that? Or was this more in the area of speculation? (I'm honestly just curious. I don't mean to be challenging anyone at all; far from it.)

The Simmental/Hereford Repaints don't surprise me at all. Even re-releasing the Black Angus trio doesn't surprise me. For some reason, what surprises me the most is that Schleich is assigning new identification numbers to the Black Angus trio. The old Bull/Cow/Calf set (retired in 2007 I think) was 13282/13269/13270. The new Bull/Cow/Calf set is 13766/13767/13768. Why would they do this?

I guess it really isn't that odd and I shouldn't find it surprising. After all, Schleich has already done exactly this with the Spotted Hyena: Same mold, re-releasing a retired model, but releasing it under a new identification number.

Collectors can tell the difference between the two Hyenas. I wonder if the same will be true for the Black Angus Cattle.
As far as I know, yes the anguses are reissues (the number thing is weird to me though, I didn't notice that at first) and yes the Hereford cow is slightly altered. As far as I can tell, the bull and calf are not, but the cow has a lower head position than before, more wrinkles in her neck due to that (not entirely sure about that though, may just be the coloring doing that) and the ears are a little different. The tail appears to be different as well, though I'm unsure of this to include it in the list of alterations, especially since it may be the angle or painting doing that to me.  Rolling Eyes But of course any speculated changes couldn't be verified until I saw the new model next to the old one, since pics can be deceiving.

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Tue 07 Jan 2014, 01:32

It's about time Schleich!!! HEREFORDS cheers cheers cheers cheers  But sadly my Angus won't be worth as much as they were... Ohh well.  Very Happy  The cow has a lot of white along her back though, but the Simmental models that they used are perfect for Herefords. Hopefully they reach local stores soon.  Very Happy 
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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Tue 07 Jan 2014, 09:17

OHHHH! I SO much would like those new herefords  bounce  bounce  Shocked 

If anybody buys them for her/himself, perhaps she/he would do me the enormous favour to purchase a set for me, too ?  drunken 

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Wed 08 Jan 2014, 00:06

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Take a look here. Just Remakes of the previus models. They changed the fur modelling and the ears a bit. And the colour slightly.

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oh how boring!  Why couldn't they make new sculptures?

You know Harriet! First it is much cheaper to use the same molds. Then, the most part of Schleich customers don't have a pale idea that these figures existed before. Then, the brand, under these last administration, always showed lack of interest with collectors. Remember that when a rare figure is sold on EBAY for a huge amount, it doesn't represent a direct profit to the company. Though, they probably don't know that it gives prestige to the brand and there are a little group of customers that only buy Schleich suspecting that they will have one day a high value, the known Superpinto sydrome, that is an unexpressive slice of market but a symptom of a commercially healthy company. Very Happy
Sometimes I think that they will reuse the pinto mold and sell it with the pattern  of the special edition. Unlikely but it won't surprise me at all. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Mon 13 Jan 2014, 22:08

I got the new cows in today. All of the cows are just repaints except for the new Hereford Cow. It has the year '13 on the bottom of her. I have pictures of all the cattle compared to the old cattle and a picture from all sides of the Simmental and Hereford cows, but have no computer at the moment. I will post them as soon as I get home.

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Tue 14 Jan 2014, 00:01

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Tue 14 Jan 2014, 02:48

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Tue 14 Jan 2014, 03:45

Many congrats! They're all gorgeous!  cheers 
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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Tue 14 Jan 2014, 13:58

Wow, I love the cow. The anguses have minor differences in paint job (that's to be expected) and the Herefords look like they just covered the white spots (another to be expected paint job fix) I really like the cow though, so I'd have to get her family. Thanks for sharing!

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Tue 14 Jan 2014, 15:12

Thank you for comparison photos! They all just flew straight into my wishlist, too bad they're USA only releases!  Mad

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Tue 14 Jan 2014, 15:13

Is the "new" cattle a litlle smaller in size?  scratch 
It is very obvious with the Hereford calf, but the others seem a little bit smaller as well.

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Tue 14 Jan 2014, 19:28

I really want them ! I like having several models of a same species/breed.
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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Tue 14 Jan 2014, 20:31

I like the new Hereford cow, the only problem is that the udder is too big for a beef breed like the Hereford.

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Tue 14 Jan 2014, 21:48

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Is the "new" cattle a litlle smaller in size?  scratch 
It is very obvious with the Hereford calf, but the others seem a little bit smaller as well.

They're all the same size. I guess it was the way I was holding the camera.

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Tue 14 Jan 2014, 23:36

Very nice to see more photos. Thanks for sharing! cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Tue 14 Jan 2014, 23:48

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I like the new Hereford cow, the only problem is that the udder is too big for a beef breed like the Hereford.
Yes its true it should be smaller. However there are some individuals that I know of that were kinda sorta bred to be more like domestic milk cows rather than for beef. I know a few smaller animal farmers (rabbits/chickens) or sheep herders who live in the mountains or farther away from cities and their cows were Herefords (since they just bought the cheapest thing they could, and it was coincidence that it was Herefords at all) and they had some of the largest udders I've ever seen on a cow. My grandfather raised crosses of mostly Hereford blood so I'm familiar with breed standards etc. and these ladies were meant for producing milk by the bucket loads for their mountain men owners. Shocked Really, it was quite a sight to behold to witness the diversity and adaptability of an animal, no matter its breed characteristics that demanded otherwise.

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Wed 15 Jan 2014, 06:59

I love this cow!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Wed 15 Jan 2014, 22:58

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I like the new Hereford cow, the only problem is that the udder is too big for a beef breed like the Hereford.

True and her back stripe seems to be a bit to big for the Hereford breed but the bull and the calf look great. cheers cheers cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Thu 16 Jan 2014, 04:04

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I like the new Hereford cow, the only problem is that the udder is too big for a beef breed like the Hereford.
That's really good of you
I thought I was the only that knew of this.
But we need more more more cattle breads!!
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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Thu 16 Jan 2014, 20:27

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I like the new Hereford cow, the only problem is that the udder is too big for a beef breed like the Hereford.
That's really good of you
I thought I was the only that knew of this.
But we need more more more cattle breads!!
Thanks. Smile 
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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Mon 20 Jan 2014, 04:15

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I got the new cows in today. All of the cows are just repaints except for the new Hereford Cow. It has the year '13 on the bottom of her. I have pictures of all the cattle compared to the old cattle and a picture from all sides of the Simmental and Hereford cows, but have no computer at the moment. I will post them as soon as I get home.

Don't the others have the markings '13 on the bottom? Only the Hereford cow? Thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Mon 20 Jan 2014, 14:31

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I got the new cows in today. All of the cows are just repaints except for the new Hereford Cow. It has the year '13 on the bottom of her. I have pictures of all the cattle compared to the old cattle and a picture from all sides of the Simmental and Hereford cows, but have no computer at the moment. I will post them as soon as I get home.

Don't the others have the markings '13 on the bottom? Only the Hereford cow? Thanks.

The Hereford is the only one with the '13 markings. The rest have their original year markings on them.

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Tue 21 Jan 2014, 01:29

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I got the new cows in today. All of the cows are just repaints except for the new Hereford Cow. It has the year '13 on the bottom of her. I have pictures of all the cattle compared to the old cattle and a picture from all sides of the Simmental and Hereford cows, but have no computer at the moment. I will post them as soon as I get home.

Don't the others have the markings '13 on the bottom? Only the Hereford cow? Thanks.

The Hereford is the only one with the '13 markings. The rest have their original year markings on them.

Thanks!


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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sun 09 Mar 2014, 00:57

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I saw in h&h winners circle that they do!
Yuppyyyyyyy

I shop on H&H Winners' Circle too! I think i've seen those cattle, i'm not sure.
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