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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:33 pm

I wonder if these will lower the value of the older angus that usually sell for a good chunk of money here in the US?

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:03 pm

Interesting since I don't have the old Angus.
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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:59 pm

Hm... yup that was my prognosis.  Wink Interesting though, I might have to get the Herefords if nothing else, that's what my grandfather raised for decades.  Very Happy 

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sat Jan 04, 2014 5:23 pm

I asked Schleich about them. On monday we should know more!

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sat Jan 04, 2014 6:40 pm

OK, people who payed big money for old Angus cattle, say MUUUU... Me first  Mad 

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sat Jan 04, 2014 7:26 pm

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OK, people who payed big money for old Angus cattle, say MUUUU... Me first  Mad 
That may be why they have chosen to "bring them back" now...  Rolling Eyes 

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:26 pm

Ajajjajaja jajaj hahahhahahah
That's why they started the resaled of the old model of cows!
Even there web site is not updated like many years back with the new models in of every year?"
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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:03 pm

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Take a look here. Just Remakes of the previus models. They changed the fur modelling and the ears a bit. And the colour slightly.

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oh how boring! Why couldn't they make new sculptures?

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:15 pm

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Take a look here. Just Remakes of the previus models. They changed the fur modelling and the ears a bit. And the colour slightly.

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oh how boring!  Why couldn't they make new sculptures?

You know Harriet! First it is much cheaper to use the same molds. Then, the most part of Schleich customers don't have a pale idea that these figures existed before. Then, the brand, under these last administration, always showed lack of interest with collectors. Remember that when a rare figure is sold on EBAY for a huge amount, it doesn't represent a direct profit to the company. Though, they probably don't know that it gives prestige to the brand and there are a little group of customers that only buy Schleich suspecting that they will have one day a high value, the known Superpinto sydrome, that is an unexpressive slice of market but a symptom of a commercially healthy company. Very Happy
Sometimes I think that they will reuse the pinto mold and sell it with the pattern of the special edition. Unlikely but it won't surprise me at all. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:39 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sun Jan 05, 2014 4:51 pm

I'm happy the sculpts aren't new. If they were, I'm sure they'd be no exception to the huge eyes and other features characteristic of many of the new Schleich animals.
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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sun Jan 05, 2014 5:06 pm

Usually I'm against stuff like that, but those were really good figurines back in the day, and with new texture they look better than most of the 2014 releases!

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:53 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:19 am

If you go on ebay and type in "schleich 2014 cow", it gives you all the pictures.

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:33 am

They did make some small alterations it looks like. I think the new pattern makes the figure look like new, though you can still tell its the same mould.

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:33 am

The only new mold appears to be the Hereford cow, and maybe a slight alteration on the angus cow's head.

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:42 am

I guess that's what I meant since the Hereford cows picture was compared to the older figure. Should have been more clear, sorry.  Smile 

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:08 am

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:52 am

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I note that it's quite different I hope the bull to and the calf?
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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:54 pm

I wish that they had at least tried to improve the angus bull a little. Something about the head never seemed right, and the sides were always to flat. At least it give me a chance to get the cow, which I searched for but never found.  Laughing 

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:55 pm

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I wonder if these will lower the value of the older angus that usually sell for a good chunk of money here in the US?
THat is what I was wondering too.
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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:48 pm

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Take a look here. Just Remakes of the previus models. They changed the fur modelling and the ears a bit. And the colour slightly.

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oh how boring!  Why couldn't they make new sculptures?

You know Harriet! First it is much cheaper to use the same molds. Then, the most part of Schleich customers don't have a pale idea that these figures existed before. Then, the brand, under these last administration, always showed lack of interest with collectors. Remember that when a rare figure is sold on EBAY for a huge amount, it doesn't represent a direct profit to the company. Though, they probably don't know that it gives prestige to the brand and there are a little group of customers that only buy Schleich suspecting that they will have one day a high value, the known Superpinto sydrome, that is an unexpressive slice of market but a symptom of a commercially healthy company. Very Happy
Sometimes I think that they will reuse the pinto mold and sell it with the pattern  of the special edition. Unlikely but it won't surprise me at all. Very Happy
Yes, I guessed that was why. Still, a rather big disappointment though, they're turning into Papo.

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:04 am

I apologize if I'm just missing something that someone has already established in their comments in this thread, but I just want to make sure that I'm correct in thinking that (1) the Black Angus trio are reissues -- that is, Schleich is re-using the old Black Angus bull, cow, and calf molds; and that (2) the Hereford trio are the old Simmental bull, cow, and calf molds which are being painted differently. Are both of these suggestions correct?

I know someone put forward the thought that one or more of the Hereford molds may have been changed slightly from the Simmental mold. Are we sure about that? Or was this more in the area of speculation? (I'm honestly just curious. I don't mean to be challenging anyone at all; far from it.)

The Simmental/Hereford Repaints don't surprise me at all. Even re-releasing the Black Angus trio doesn't surprise me. For some reason, what surprises me the most is that Schleich is assigning new identification numbers to the Black Angus trio. The old Bull/Cow/Calf set (retired in 2007 I think) was 13282/13269/13270. The new Bull/Cow/Calf set is 13766/13767/13768. Why would they do this?

I guess it really isn't that odd and I shouldn't find it surprising. After all, Schleich has already done exactly this with the Spotted Hyena: Same mold, re-releasing a retired model, but releasing it under a new identification number.

Collectors can tell the difference between the two Hyenas. I wonder if the same will be true for the Black Angus Cattle.
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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:14 am

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At least it gives me a chance to get the cow, which I searched for but never found.  Laughing 

This also makes me happy.

I absolutely love both the Schleich Simmental and the Black Angus sets. They are not only some of my favorite cattle models, and not only some of my favorite Schleich models, but some of my absolutely favorite models, period. So really, it's pretty great that they're being made available. (And like Robert mentioned above, I am someone who paid an arm and a leg for the Black Angus set. I got them when I first started collecting and I had completely fallen in love with the models. I REALLY overpaid for them. I'm too embarrassed to admit how much the three together cost me. Yikes!)
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PostSubject: Re: Schleich new cows in?   Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:19 am

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The cows are already on Happy Hen. The old Angus are sold as a set on the bottom of the page.

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