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PostSubject: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:45 pm

When Schleich launced a bunch of horses with braided manes in 2012, I was really chocked ! Shocked 
To me, horses are so lovely, there is no reason to change their looks ! What will the next thing be ? Lipstick ?  affraid  Laughing 

But having just taken some pictures of them for Toyanimal.info , I begin to get used to the idea. I think it is quite an old tradition in some breeds Wink
I seem to remember that the different styles even have names , but can't find anything about it on the net  geek 
If somebody knows, I can add it here Very Happy

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The good, old Clydesdale stallions from Safari :
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Safari Percheron from 2013 :
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The old, grey Percheron from Safari :
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Safari Arabian with flower wreath :
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Papo , Mom's horse :
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The Schleich Trakhener mare from this year :
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Schleich Fell Pony :
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Schleich Frisian mare :
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Schleich Haflinger mare :
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The (in)famous Schleich Arabian from this year :
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The Schleich Shetland mare with a heart on her butt  Laughing 
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And here comes Princess ! The most famous of them all, thanks to Carola  cheers 
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Princess is a Shire mare from Schleich Wink
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Schleich Lipizzan mare :
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Even the baby has braids ! Lipizzan foal from Schleich :
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Schleich Andalusian mare :
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Same mare , Special Edition :
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The beautyful Hanoverian mare from Schelich :
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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:40 pm

That's a great topic, Susanne! The only acceptable for me is the last one, Hannoverian mare!

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:06 am

I love your photos Susanne!  cheers Certainly there are many decorations to be found in model horses nowadays.

I'm no horse owner myself(except for miniatures), but I have an impression, that braiding and such is quite normal and ok in horse business. As long as the horse is groomed, happy and well cared for, I guess they don't care if their onwers make a little braid or two?  scratch cheers 

Ofcourse, braiding in horse figurines, make them more of characters, than just a reperesentation of a certain breed, I think.

2014 Frisian Mare looks fine in your photos. I'm looking forward to see her on shops...

By the way, the old Schleich Hanoverian Mare, she has also a styled mane  sunny

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:06 am

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By the way, the old Schleich Hanoverian Mare, she has also a styled mane  sunny

Ohhh ! Yes ! Of course ! cheers 
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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:40 am

You are right, some breeds it is quire common, such as with draft breeds. But an Arabian?  affraid Schleich is no longer very educational.  Laughing Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes 

Thanks for the photos Susanne! I forgot about the Hanoverian too.

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:17 am

Ohh, yes ! Arabians Very Happy 
These from Papo look more like it Laughing 
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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:48 am

In general I quite like braided manes, not necessary in horse models but in real horses it's fun sometimes to do it. Maybe especially with Friesian horses, their long manes are of course wonderful just as they but braided are beautiful too. Smile

As for the figures, thank you Susanne for showing them! Maybe it could even be topic for SUY some day Laughing
The most strange and even ridiculous is braided mane of foal. I've never heard about anyone doing that! Also foals' mane is usually too soft for that, isn't it? Shocked

I quite like the style of mane in Lipizzan mare actually Very Happy, but I thought this style is called "stallion's braid". I heard such name somewhere.   scratch  Nevertheless it would look nice also on real mare or stallion, doesn't matter.  

Liking braids or not, I think Schleich is doing a bit too much of that, maybe if it's 15-20% of their horses with braids it would be better but now, they are majority. Soon it will be difficult to make complete herd of mustangs if one would like to play like this (what was also one of my plays when I was kid) how could horse figure play a role of mustang with all those decorations? Now they could mainly play in a fantasy world or riding clubs. scratch

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:04 am

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The most strange and even ridiculous is braided mane of foal. I've never heard about anyone doing that! Also foals' mane is usually too soft for that, isn't it? Shocked

I think you're right. How could you even braid a foal's mane? I would think it would be too soft and too short as well!  Shocked scratch 

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:21 am

A lot of beautieful horse figurines Susanne  cheers cheers cheers 

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:11 am

Thankyou, Andreas Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:30 am

Thanks for these beautiful pictures, Susanne! Am I remembering wrong, or is Bullyland has also made the horses with braids? This year? scratch 

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:47 am

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Thanks for these beautiful pictures, Susanne! Am I remembering wrong, or is Bullyland has also made the horses with braids? This year? scratch 

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:42 am

Thankyou Jonas and 4U !
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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:45 pm

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The most strange and even ridiculous is braided mane of foal. I've never heard about anyone doing that! Also foals' mane is usually too soft for that, isn't it? Shocked

I think you're right. How could you even braid a foal's mane? I would think it would be too soft and too short as well!  Shocked scratch 

It isn't impossible or even uncommon. For instance, all of the KWPN breed foals are mandatorily shown braided in inspections - the studbook association requires it. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] are a few such foals with braids.

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:57 pm

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The most strange and even ridiculous is braided mane of foal. I've never heard about anyone doing that! Also foals' mane is usually too soft for that, isn't it? Shocked

I think you're right. How could you even braid a foal's mane? I would think it would be too soft and too short as well!  Shocked scratch 

It isn't impossible or even uncommon. For instance, all of the KWPN breed foals are mandatorily shown braided in inspections (the only foal I saw unbraided in one was an odd filly with nearly no mane growing to make braids with) - the studbook association requires it. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] are a few such foals with braids.

Very interesting, I never knew that.  Very Happy 

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:47 pm

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I think it is quite an old tradition in some breeds Wink

Braiding horses' manes and tails is indeed an ancient custom. Horses in the antiquity often had their manes [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] upright and adorned with [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], but there are some [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] from [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] that may indicate [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] or suchlike, too. Certainly later on it became a well-liked way of adorning the steeds of the wealthy all around the world.

Here are some coiffured horses from history: Medieval Europe [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]; 14-th century China [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and Arabia [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] with mud-knotted tails; early Italian renaissance [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]; Mughal-era India [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. By early Modern times, braiding really caught on in the exuberance of Baroque-era Europe - the bloom of classical dressage, the increasing wealth of Central European courts, as well as sheer fashion saw the steeds of the rich lavished with the most intricate of braids and adornments (if also beaten half to death and tortured with the most fiendish of bits - but then, this, unlike [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], had been the case for horses all through the history). Examples of such steeds [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].

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I'm no horse owner myself(except for miniatures), but I have an impression, that braiding and such is quite normal and ok in horse business. As long as the horse is groomed, happy and well cared for, I guess they don't care if their onwers make a little braid or two?  scratch cheers 
The braiding of manes and tails is a pretty commonplace and well-accepted - admired, even - practice in the equestrian world. Many breed shows and disciplines downright require the manes and tails of horses entering to be done in a certain fashion as part of their turnout. Braids, when executed well, are a temporary nuisance at worst to the horse (most neck braids, for instance, are ruined if the horse reaches its head too low).

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I seem to remember that the different styles even have names , but can't find anything about it on the net  geek 
If somebody knows, I can add it here Very Happy

I'll write a little bit about what I know of the braids seen on the models you posted. I'm no expert, though, and welcome any corrections to my ramblings, if anyone has any. The links in each caption will take the reader to see the real-life counterpart of the adornment in question.


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Many draught breeds, particularly in the UK and USA, have their own, specific mane and tail decorations used for shows. The horse's mane is usually braided with a piece of cloth along the horse's crest, and pin-mounted [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] (UK) or [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] (USA) decorations are then stuck on the braid. These decorations are usually called [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] in the UK and [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] or [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] in the USA. The number of bobs may change according to the the discipline the horse is shown in (a [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] of flights is typical of a halter/in-hand horse, while [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] are used on hitch horses so as to leave room for the collar). In some cases only stallions and geldings are given flights, and mares are shown unbraided.

The [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] or docking of tails has been illegal for a while now in the UK, so there draught horses' tails are typically decorated by [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], possibly with some ribbon, and attaching [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. Particularly on Clydesdales, the tail may also be [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] or [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] shaved. In the USA, closely amputated tails seem to be still fashionable, particularly among the American Belgians. There the hair on the remaining tail nub is gathered up in a knot and secured with a [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. Some folk still see the trouble of putting up [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] too, reminiscent of the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] still popular in Britain.


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These are both [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], easily confused with the easier-made [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] (also called jumper, rosette, English, or dressage braids).


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These seem to be an upright variation of the above, usually used on the KWPN breeds - also the foals, during inspections. They're most often seen on the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] these days.


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This seems to be a double [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] with a layer of mane left loose underneath (which is typically not done; [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] layers [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], though). However, usually a "double French braid" refers to [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - a double-sided version rather than multilayered. Both styles are variations of the simple [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], seen here as the underhand variation again:
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These are so-called [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] or [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] (US). They require a long and fairly [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] mane of a horse to work well.

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You are right, some breeds it is quire common, such as with draft breeds. But an Arabian?  affraid Schleich is no longer very educational.  Laughing Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes 
Arabians compete in a many disciplines that require or encourage specific types of braids to be used on the participating animals. They are not required (nor indeed usually allowed) to deviate from the turnout standard to the discipline simply because of their breed. In the US especially, Arabians are a pretty popular breed for numerous English disciplines, and are typically required to participate in a turnout dictated by the rules of the discipline (& division, class, governing association, etc.) - just like the other participating breeds are. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] are [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] variously [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Arabians [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] in [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] disciplines.

Formal competition aside, there's also no reason why an owner might not braid their horse - of whatever breed - in any kind of a braid they choose for their own amusement. I can't see how the braid on the Schleich model would make for an issue of realism or accuracy - rather, it's the model's build that might do.


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This is a braid I've never seen really done. The fabric (?) decorations bring to mind the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] of the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], but the model's breed is all wrong, of course, and the loose mane underneath is too. Another possible inspiration for them might be the Iberian [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] fabric-puffed [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], but even then the breed's very wrong, and the braids themselves aren't much better. Perhaps someone else knows what the idea with these was?


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This is no recognized style that I know of, either. Reminds me of a much simplified version of [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] masterly French braid - continental braid mixture.


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Unlike most of the previous styles, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] kind of plaiting of manes isn't done for shows - typically, it's just to keep the hairs in a horse's long mane from breaking and the mane thus becoming shorter and more unkempt while the horse is stabled or out on pasture.


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Flower wreaths are typically used in the saddle seat equitation world in the USA. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] one on a winning Saddlebred, and [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] on an Arab.


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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:22 pm

Thanks Susanne for opening this thread and Lea for your very interesting imput! cheers
We spend all time trying to save these figures, or because it is not impossible or because it is not as bad as in catalogue pictures. Honestly, I second what Ana's saying. I don't have anything against braided horses although I think that free manes and tails are characteristics that make horses look so beautiful. If Schleich was releasing a little number of braided horses it was acceptable but it is too much. This year, for me, the Frisian was enough once it is the only one I like the braids, alsoif it was the only braided, it would turn her somewhat special and now she is only one more among many of them.
I also think that some of these horses are really bad sculpts and braids work as a distracting thing.

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:21 pm

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The most strange and even ridiculous is braided mane of foal. I've never heard about anyone doing that! Also foals' mane is usually too soft for that, isn't it? Shocked

I think you're right. How could you even braid a foal's mane? I would think it would be too soft and too short as well!  Shocked scratch 

It isn't impossible or even uncommon. For instance, all of the KWPN breed foals are mandatorily shown braided in inspections (the only foal I saw unbraided in one was an odd filly with nearly no mane growing to make braids with) - the studbook association requires it. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] are a few such foals with braids.

Very interesting, I never knew that.  Very Happy 

Me neither!  Shocked 
Living in The Netherlands I should know KWPN's  inspection traditions better  Embarassed 
Thanks for that information and photos Lea!   cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:26 pm

I loved your tour in the Horses Decorations world, Lea  cheers 

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:50 pm

Thank you Susanne for all the photos and Lea for the huge info! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:04 am

Thankyopu everybody for your great input ! cheers 

Lea, my morning flew away while I was studying your wonderful walk through the history and science of horse braiding ! Thankyou VERY much  flower Applause Applause 

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:57 am

Thank you Lea for the wealth of information! I did not know all that Shocked Shocked Your so-called "ramblings" are very helpful to me and welcomed! cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:33 am

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:14 am

Thanks/kiitos Lea cheers  Susanne, Bullyland Westphalian mare 2013, Dressage Westphalian and Arabian mare with equipment? Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:08 am

I've just come back again to your article Lea, it's super interesting, especially oldest records of braiding in ancient art, it's amazing. Thanks again! cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:09 pm

Thanks everyone for the feedback - I'm glad so many found the little writeup interesting. My thanks, of course, to Susanne for starting the thread in the first place and supplying such good pictures of the models and their adornments! Also, I must note I didn't mean to hijack the thread - my post got a bit out of hand, swelling in length as I wrote.

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I'm glad you liked it! For a lot of info, reconstructions and links on the subject of equestrian culture in ancient times, check out [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] excellent blog - be warned, though, the place is a time warp. You'll emerge seven hours later with your intrigue none lessened.

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Thanks Susanne for opening this thread and Lea for your very interesting imput! cheers
We spend all time trying to save these figures, or because it is not impossible or because it is not as bad as in catalogue pictures. Honestly, I second what Ana's saying. I don't have anything against braided horses although I think that free manes and tails are characteristics that make horses look so beautiful. If Schleich was releasing a little number of braided horses it was acceptable but it is too much. This year, for me, the Frisian was enough once it is the only one I like the braids, alsoif it was the only braided, it would turn her somewhat special and now she is only one more among many of them.
I also think that some of these horses are really bad sculpts and braids work as a distracting thing.

I quite agree with Roger on the abundance of braids and gimmicks on the recent Schleich releases being a bit much. I also think the sculpts are pretty atrocious and the braids seem to be used to try and hide this. Still, now that we have all those braids, I suppose it couldn't hurt to take a closer look - even if not in their (or the afflicted models') defense entirely.

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:29 pm

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Thanks/kiitos Lea cheers  Susanne, Bullyland Westphalian mare 2013, Dressage Westphalian and Arabian mare with equipment? Wink

Ohhh, of course  Shocked How COULD I forget Bullyland ?  Embarassed 

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:06 pm

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......... Also, I must note I didn't mean to hijack the thread - my post got a bit out of hand, swelling in length as I wrote.


No, no, no ! Of course you didn't !!! This is a brilliant example of teamwork  cheers cheers cheers 

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Sat Jan 11, 2014 6:41 am

I'm a horserider and also a horselover and I prefer ''natural'' horses, I mean without braids... I have to admit brands has to make new ''things'' for getting some new figures... but they must investigate and make serious things...

For example, Andalusian mare. In Spain andalusian mares don't have this braids; they are usually with very short mains because they don't live in boxes (-usually in the field or mount-) as you can see here (''cobra'' of Yeguada Cárdenas -Fuego's owner-) [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:01 pm

Good point, Persefone !!!
Thankyou for this information  Applause 

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:40 pm

I do think braids are OK, but i only think they are if there is NO pink of other very ''loud'' color is used to make them more girly ore something. Ans i just can't help myself to tink they are doing a very bad paint job on the most braids (like the braids on teh haflinger mare in this topic) I almost can not buy horses from the stores here because of the bad paint jobs, i just want the perfect one and all of them seem to my like they are painted in a hurry!

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:20 am

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I do think braids are OK, but i only think they are if there is NO pink of other very ''loud'' color is used to make them more girly ore something. Ans i just can't help myself to tink they are doing a very bad paint job on the most braids (like the braids on teh haflinger mare in this topic) I almost can not buy horses from the stores here because of the bad paint jobs, i just want the perfect one and all of them seem to my like they are painted in a hurry!

You are so right ! That poor haflinger mare  Crying or Very sad 

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:27 am

Braiding on a model horse replica isn’t a new theme. Back in 1966 Britains released their plastic version of their Suffolk Mare and this featured a braided mane and tail. Has been stated above work horses in Britain have this done as part of tradition and for performing work.

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:59 am

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:19 am

Thankyou, Chris Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:22 am

Man, from the catalog pics I thought this one at least had potential... *grumble* I wish their sculptor knew how to sculpt something - anything - besides hair.  Evil or Very Mad 

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Sun Jan 12, 2014 10:45 am

Thanks Chris, that is again a very interesting contribution. Curious that it is a Suffolk mare, the same breed Ana sculpted for Mojo being released this year. The figure is wonderful, I like a lot the volumes and proportions. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:57 am

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A pleasure to share Susanne and Roger. Perhaps Roger Anna was inspired by this model.  Very Happy  And now a bonus shot of a close-up of Britains Suffolk Mare:

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:09 pm

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Braiding on a model horse replica isn’t a new theme. Back in 1966 Britains released their plastic version of their Suffolk Mare and this featured a braided mane and tail. Has been stated above work horses in Britain have this done as part of tradition and for performing work.

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WOW she is beautiful!  drunken I wish Schleich could just sculpt like that, in Schleich size and then with rich texture and paintwork drunken What a dream!

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:48 am

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Braiding on a model horse replica isn’t a new theme. Back in 1966 Britains released their plastic version of their Suffolk Mare and this featured a braided mane and tail. Has been stated above work horses in Britain have this done as part of tradition and for performing work.

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WOW she is beautiful!  drunken I wish Schleich could just sculpt like that, in Schleich size and then with rich texture and paintwork drunken What a dream!

Yeah, what a beautiful model horse! Lots of details and it's head with the exception of the very gorgeous cheers 
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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:57 am

Gorgeous Suffolk mare! Very Happy I have a book on draft horse showing that has a lot of great pics of the various braiding styles. Turns out there's a style for each breed, which is rather helpful for collectors when it comes to deciding whether a particular model should be shown as, say, a Shire or a Clyde.

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Many thanks Carola, Jonas and Sumo.  Very Happy 

I too am amazed at the detail Britains put into their toy figures. Their sculptors were masters at getting the pose and details just right.

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:20 pm

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Thanks Chris, that is again a very interesting contribution. Curious that it is a Suffolk mare, the same breed Ana sculpted for Mojo being released this year. The figure is wonderful, I like a lot the volumes and proportions. Very Happy

A pleasure to share Susanne and Roger. Perhaps Roger Anna was inspired by this model.  Very Happy  And now a bonus shot of a close-up of Britains Suffolk Mare:


Oh, actually I wasn't aware of this model  Embarassed , I should know Britains figures better but I mainly know Britains which appear on forum more often.
I think it's lovely figure indeed!  cheers  Interesting they painted mane and tail black (or very very dark brown), it's not very often seen in chestnut horses.
Anyway, now I feel inspired! Maybe I will remake mane on one copy of my Suffolk mare to have similar braids like this one Very Happy
And, as Suffolks are one of my favourite horse breeds I think I will search this Britains figure to my collection Very Happy

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Wow, such a book must be really interesting! Could you send few images here? I would be especially happy to see what's typical for Suffolk Punch Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:26 am

Thanks for your explanation about braiding Lea! Really interesting :)

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:48 am

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Thanks Chris, that is again a very interesting contribution. Curious that it is a Suffolk mare, the same breed Ana sculpted for Mojo being released this year. The figure is wonderful, I like a lot the volumes and proportions. Very Happy

A pleasure to share Susanne and Roger. Perhaps Roger Anna was inspired by this model.  Very Happy  And now a bonus shot of a close-up of Britains Suffolk Mare:


Oh, actually I wasn't aware of this model  Embarassed , I should know Britains figures better but I mainly know Britains which appear on forum more often.
I think it's lovely figure indeed!  cheers  Interesting they painted mane and tail black (or very very dark brown), it's not very often seen in chestnut horses.
Anyway, now I feel inspired! Maybe I will remake mane on one copy of my Suffolk mare to have similar braids like this one Very Happy
And, as Suffolks are one of my favourite horse breeds I think I will search this Britains figure to my collection Very Happy


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Please accept my apologies. I honestly thought that you have seen Britains' Suffolk Mare before. It is a fairly common model but perhaps my images were the first ones on STS?

I have just looked at some real Suffolk horses on the net and I agree that Britains colour combination is strange.

Hopefully, these images have inspired you to do a version with braided mane and tail. There are a number of images on the net that show this in detail.

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:55 pm

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You are so right. A horse with black mane/tail is NOT chestnut, it is bay  Laughing 

That is the phaenotype definition of a chestnut, - the mane/tail is never darker that the body.
Geneticly a chestnut is ee, which means " not-black". This means that black colour is as impossible as it is that she would grow a trunk  lol! 

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:33 pm

Chestnuts can have a mane and tail darker than their body colour; even still, it won't be black (even though it can [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] pretty [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]) - it'll be just another shade of pheomelanin brown like [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] (scroll down a bit to the trotting Laramie) or [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. Chestnuts can also have a near-gray manes like [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] or [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].

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Thanks Chris, that is again a very interesting contribution. Curious that it is a Suffolk mare, the same breed Ana sculpted for Mojo being released this year. The figure is wonderful, I like a lot the volumes and proportions. Very Happy

A pleasure to share Susanne and Roger. Perhaps Roger Anna was inspired by this model.  Very Happy  And now a bonus shot of a close-up of Britains Suffolk Mare:


Oh, actually I wasn't aware of this model  Embarassed , I should know Britains figures better but I mainly know Britains which appear on forum more often.
I think it's lovely figure indeed!  cheers  Interesting they painted mane and tail black (or very very dark brown), it's not very often seen in chestnut horses.
Anyway, now I feel inspired! Maybe I will remake mane on one copy of my Suffolk mare to have similar braids like this one Very Happy
And, as Suffolks are one of my favourite horse breeds I think I will search this Britains figure to my collection Very Happy


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Please accept my apologies. I honestly thought that you have seen Britains' Suffolk Mare before. It is a fairly common model but perhaps my images were the first ones on STS?

I have just looked at some real Suffolk horses on the net and I agree that Britains colour combination is strange.

Hopefully, these images have inspired you to do a version with braided mane and tail. There are a number of images on the net that show this in detail.

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I don't see reason you should apologise me for. If I knew this figure earlier it would surely be one of my favourite Very Happy and probably would inspire me too. Now I'm thinking about some braids for my Suffolk mare, just to see if it suits her Very Happy

If I would say about inspiration for this Mojo mare other than Suffolks photos I would mention old Schleich chestnut draft mare, I like this figure very much. Very Happy

I'm not sure if it's first time when the model is shown on forum, but it must be first photo showing this figure individually here, probably. I think wild animals of Britains are more often to see on STS, farm animals we see only form time to time. And of course i didn't know Britains before I joined this forum (I think we've never had this company in Polish toy shops, except, of course Chinese  poor  copies )  Smile


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You are so right. A horse with black mane/tail is NOT chestnut, it is bay  Laughing 

That is the phaenotype definition of a chestnut, - the mane/tail is never darker that the body.
Geneticly a chestnut is ee, which means " not-black". This means that black colour is as impossible as it is that she would grow a trunk  lol! 


Yes, I know normally chestnut don't have black mane but I mean maybe it was very very dark brown.
Also, I knew horse with black mane and tail would be bay but this figure has no black on legs as bay horse would. That's why I was thinking perhaps they showing horse of the colour like on Lea's photos (these I would say have probably very dark brown coloured mane and tail scratch)  Also I though chestnut because it's described as Suffolk Punch-they are only chestnut.

BTW, I wonder about so called sooty,  something like sooty chestnut horse would also have dozen of black hair?  study 

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Very interesting examples, thank you for sharing Lea! I wonder if Britains company wanted to show Suffolk in this shade of chestnut or they confused bay with chestnut  a bit?

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:24 pm

Yes, many chestnuts have some dark chestnut hairs in the tail.

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Those are bays  with silver mane/tail Wink

This one : [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is silver dappeled black, it is certainly not a chestnut Wink


Anna, not all bays have black legs. And certainly not model horses  Laughing  They are called aguti bays..for some strange reason Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Braids and other fun for horses :-)   Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:42 pm

Ha, so now I'm very confused! :shock:I didn't know about bays without any black on legs, I heard only about some of them having less black than others (wild bay or something like that?) So this information is like "wow" for me! Very Happy 
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