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PostSubject: Re: Club Earth Poison dart frogs set: A walkaround by Kikimalou   Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:12 pm

Christophe, I am together with @Froggie, trying to sort the small XX section on TAI. As these frogs are also available under Club Earth brand some doubts popped and I decided to use the chance to bring back this artistic topic. Very Happy
Now, your frogs are here in Club Earth section in what is known as the most beautiful gallery of whole TAI. Very Happy
Questions are:
- does your frogs come in a box similar to that you can see together with the gallery?
- Are they numbered?

A little remark, Beatrice pointed that the one you are identifying as Splashback dart frog and mislabeled as  Phyllobates bicolor is probably not mislabeled and it is a bicolored dart frog indeed. Added also that there is already a Zimmermann's poison frog in this collection and it is another name to the splashback dart frog. I agree and now I start understanding why she is Froggie. Laughing
Checking pictures it is quite confuse once variabilis has a huge color variation and bicolor also varies. There is also the mimic poison frog (Ranitomeya imitator) that mimics variablilis. Laughing
I added some comparison pictures and color descriptions from AmphibiaWeb.
Frogs drive me crazy and it seems Schleich is releasing a crazier one. Wink

Bicolored dart frog


Bicolored Dart Frog (photo from Arkive.org)


Phyllobates bicolor color patterning is very striking. The dorsum and sides are a uniform golden yellow or orange, as well as the dorsal surfaces of the upper arm and thigh. In contrast, the dorsal surfaces of the forearm and calf are black, and may or may not have dense yellow (or sometimes blue) spotting. The ventrum may be completely black, or washed with light orange, light gold, or bluish green. There is occasionally a black patch on the throat. The tympanum is partly yellow-orange and partly black . In some individuals, the tip of the snout is black. Irises are black or reddish-brown.
This species, like P. terribilis, exhibits an ontogenetic color change; juveniles are dark brown to black in color, with two yellowish dorsolateral bands. As the frogs reach maturity, the dorsolateral stripes disappear, and the frogs become more brightly colored. In contrast, the juvenile pattern of light stripes on a dark background is retained into adulthood in other members of the P. bicolor group, P. aurotaenia, P. lugubris and P. vittatus.

Splashback or Zimmermann's Dart Frog (Amphibia"eb)


Zimmermann's Dart Frog


R. variabilis coloration: Coloration changes on a gradient from the anterior to posterior, going from a yellow-green to a blue-green. This species has a single nose spot with large, ovid dorsal spotting. Limbs are less than half black with small, even spots.



Ok, now I need my pills! affraid confused Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Club Earth Poison dart frogs set: A walkaround by Kikimalou   Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:56 pm

Rogério, I have spent times to labbeled that series and, after all I am also a froggy Laughing .

I think it is mislabbeled because this is a splash-backed poison frog or splashback poison frog (Adelphobates galactonotus)



This is a Bicolored Dart Frog (Phyllobates bicolor)


And this is a Zimmermann’s poison frog (Ranitomeya variabilis)


And a few more link:

Phyllobates bicolor

Ranitomeya variabilis

Adelphobates galactonotus

I think the answer is obvious Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Club Earth Poison dart frogs set: A walkaround by Kikimalou   Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:48 am

My bad, I messed everything as it is usual with frogs. pale
Now I checked and you linked it on TAI to a page called Splashback poison frog but I haven't checked the scientific name (Adelphobates galactonotus]. When I googled for Splashback poison frog I was redirected to a Wikipedia page called Splash-back poison frog but this one is Ranitomeya variabilis. confused Then, as I know Wikipedia is not always correct, I used the AmphibiaWeb that is attributing the same name to Ranitomeya variabilis and got convinced.
Apparently both have the same common name being used in different sources. I should use always the scientific name instead. geek
I have to collect some frogs to see if I start understanding a little more about these beautiful creatures. cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Club Earth Poison dart frogs set: A walkaround by Kikimalou   Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:17 am

Frogs , especially poison frogs with so many morphs, are a messy part of our realm. As for reptiles, I always use the scientific name as a golden thread.

I'm sure Sbell do the same for fishes Wink

For this set, I didn't have the box but now it is clear for me this set is Club Earth. Now we need to find how the XX frogs look Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Club Earth Poison dart frogs set: A walkaround by Kikimalou   Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:28 am

This discussion show again how much valuable work goes into TAI , and how important it is to have specialists like Simone to help Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Club Earth Poison dart frogs set: A walkaround by Kikimalou   Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:21 pm

@SUSANNE wrote:
This discussion show again how much valuable work goes into TAI , and how important it is to have specialists like Simone to help Very Happy

In this case... I am right Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Club Earth Poison dart frogs set: A walkaround by Kikimalou   Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:24 pm

Thanks Susanne and Christophe, all contributions are really important, the knowledge of each person is like a piece of a puzzle, if we have many pieces to assemble, the puzzle will be bigger. Beatrice's contributions in these tube sized figures is being priceless, mainly when it is complemented with informations from other collectors. Everyone wins with a project like TAI. Very Happy
Christophe, XX is a group of 12, the same 10 as Club Earth more a three-striped poison frog (Ameerega trivittatus), marked "Epipedobates trivittatus" that is its former scientific name. The other is likely #11 once it is the only missing number but figure and species are not known yet. Maybe someone on forum have a XX dart frog marked XX and with number 11?
Nice to know that it is an A. trivittatus once it seems a rare species in toy shape. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Club Earth Poison dart frogs set: A walkaround by Kikimalou   Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:54 pm

@Roger wrote:
Thanks Susanne and Christophe, all contributions are really important, the knowledge of each person is like a piece of a puzzle, if we have many pieces to assemble, the puzzle will be bigger. Beatrice's contributions in these tube sized figures is being priceless, mainly when it is complemented with informations from other collectors. Everyone wins with a project like TAI. Very Happy

Of course you are right... But I don''t like to wake up at night because someone confused Adelphobates galactonotus, Phyllobates bicolor and Ranitomeya variabilis Laughing
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Christophe, XX is a group of 12, the same 10 as Club Earth more a three-striped  poison frog (Ameerega trivittatus), marked  "Epipedobates trivittatus" that is its former scientific name. The other is likely #11 once it is the only missing number but figure and species are not known yet. Maybe someone on forum have a XX dart frog marked XX and with number 11?
Nice to know that it is an A. trivittatus once it seems a rare species in toy shape. Very Happy

Maybe the n°11 is Ameerega macero, I'm waiting for one Wink


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PostSubject: Re: Club Earth Poison dart frogs set: A walkaround by Kikimalou   Sat Oct 03, 2015 1:09 pm

@Kikimalou wrote:
@Roger wrote:
Thanks Susanne and Christophe, all contributions are really important, the knowledge of each person is like a piece of a puzzle, if we have many pieces to assemble, the puzzle will be bigger. Beatrice's contributions in these tube sized figures is being priceless, mainly when it is complemented with informations from other collectors. Everyone wins with a project like TAI. Very Happy  

Of course you are right... But I don''t like to wake up at night because someone confused Adelphobates galactonotus, Phyllobates bicolor and Ranitomeya variabilis Laughing


lol! My fault as I said, I have both lists from you and Beatrice and actually, who made the comparison was the croc. Beatrice didn't even know who entered them originally on TAI. As I had the brand doubt and as I love this topic, it was a good excuse to revive it.
I also forgot that some of them are very noisy at night and that they could awake you. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Club Earth Poison dart frogs set: A walkaround by Kikimalou   Sat Oct 03, 2015 2:56 pm

I am a little worried for your playmobile people - be careful they are not poisoned Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Club Earth Poison dart frogs set: A walkaround by Kikimalou   Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:46 am

@Rakel wrote:
I am a little worried for your playmobile people - be careful they are not poisoned Laughing
Beautiful frogs!

I always told them, you can watch but please don't touch Laughing

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@Roger wrote:
Thanks Susanne and Christophe, all contributions are really important, the knowledge of each person is like a piece of a puzzle, if we have many pieces to assemble, the puzzle will be bigger. Beatrice's contributions in these tube sized figures is being priceless, mainly when it is complemented with informations from other collectors. Everyone wins with a project like TAI. Very Happy  
Of course you are right... But I don''t like to wake up at night because someone confused Adelphobates galactonotus, Phyllobates bicolor and Ranitomeya variabilis Laughing
lol! My fault as I said, I have both lists from you and Beatrice and actually, who made the comparison was the croc. Beatrice didn't even know who entered them originally on TAI. As I had the brand doubt and as I love this topic, it was a good excuse to revive it.
I also forgot that some of them are very noisy at night and that they could awake you. Wink

It could be a tales title Laughing : The croc who played with frogs to distract macaques at night.

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PostSubject: Re: Club Earth Poison dart frogs set: A walkaround by Kikimalou   Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:08 am

lol! The tale will continue, let's see if I can awake the macaque. monkey
Which of these is not in your collection and is also not the #11 (Ameerega trivittatus)? With a little luck it is an Ameerega macero? Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Club Earth Poison dart frogs set: A walkaround by Kikimalou   Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:15 am

None Laughing And none is Ameerega trivittatus Wink

Are they the real XX frogs? if it is so, could you tell me also the names of the #1 to #10? study Shocked What a Face Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Club Earth Poison dart frogs set: A walkaround by Kikimalou   Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:40 pm

@Kikimalou wrote:
None Laughing  And none is Ameerega trivittatus Wink

Are they the real XX frogs? if it is so, could you tell me also the names of the #1 to #10? study Shocked What a Face Laughing

You can find the numbers of XX frogs on Toy Animal Wiki. Though, now with more time I checked it better and again you're right. Those are not Club Earth neither XX. I should have noticed once they have a remarkable lower quality. Those are brand Adventure Planet from RINCO company. RINCO company had not long ago, some legal issues with K&M International, once according with the later, Rinco cpimitated and copied entire lines of copyrighted toy products owned by K&M.
I am sorry for using some frogs again to awake the macaque but maybe it can help someone sorting some of their unknown frogs. With a little luck, I'll find an official picture of XX frogs and with even more luck, I find them for my collection and start studying a little more about these small, noisy and colorful creatures. :)
Do you think they're identifyiable? I tried but I am definitively not good with it, the first seems an American green tree frog but the catalogue says it is a collection of poison dart frogs. scratch As we say in Portugal, frogs are not my beach. geek

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PostSubject: Re: Club Earth Poison dart frogs set: A walkaround by Kikimalou   Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:59 am

Let's try to awake the macaque once more. Laughing
The Ameerega trivittatus from XX brand was just uploaded at Toy Animal Wiki.
I don't know why Adidas is not using it in their commercials? One more wonderful dart frog. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Club Earth Poison dart frogs set: A walkaround by Kikimalou   Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:16 am

Three-striped Poison Frog Shocked  What a Face What a Face What a Face  WANT IT bounce  Badly I love you

For the last one, I will probably have an answer in a few days Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Club Earth Poison dart frogs set: A walkaround by Kikimalou   Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:52 am

@Kikimalou wrote:
Three-striped Poison Frog Shocked What a Face What a Face What a Face WANT IT bounce Badly I love you

For the last one, I will probably have an answer in a few days Wink

That's wonderful, >I hope you get the mistery dart frog or unless that you find info about it. bounce
Three-striped dart frogs don't seem very common in toy shape indeed.
It was also entered on TAI the Action Products poison dart frog that I'm listing as a Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'. With a little luck, I could be wrong and that's another more interesting species or morph.. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Club Earth Poison dart frogs set: A walkaround by Kikimalou   Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:43 pm

@Roger wrote:
That's wonderful, >I hope you get the mistery dart frog or unless that you find info about it. bounce
Three-striped dart frogs don't seem very common in toy shape indeed.
It was also entered on TAI the Action Products poison dart frog that I'm listing as a Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'. With a little luck, I could be wrong and that's another more interesting species or morph.. Very Happy

I will get a mysterious frog and I hope this is the one we are searching Very Happy And now I need to search for the Three-striped dart frog Suspect

The action products is a Blue poison dart frog, not the best model Wink

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