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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:32 pm

I am getting completely behind Shocked Sleep

WOW!! Those lipizzan horses in the snow I love you drunken
Do you know that at the Lipizzan studs they always ( used to ?) have a bay stallion ?
They thought that if not, the grey colour would be "too strong" and dilute the colours too much .
The explanation of course is, that there used to be cream genes in the lipizzans, and when the horses went grey, it might be forgotten that it was borne buckskin or smoky black.
If two of there were paired, the risk was 25 %, that you would get a Blue-eyed-cream, ei too much dilution.
Funny to think of, it is not many years ago that most people thought that BECs were ill, and that this "illness" often was carried by greys . tongue

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:35 pm

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I've only just scrolled through your whole post for the first time, what amazing horses you have! My favourites are definitely your various Arabian repaints-they are just stunning Shocked Applause Very Happy

Me too, I have been looking back, and I just can not stop drooling cheers cheers
Hard to know which ones are the most magnificent, - well, except [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], who stands on my shelf, of course Wink Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:01 pm

More wonderful horses! They are lovely! Very Happy The brown one with golden ribbons is especially elegant Very Happy

And thank you for posting photos of Lipizzaners on "Carneval Ride" I love you Beautiful horses!!! cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:19 pm

Thank you everybody, you are very kind Very Happy


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Do you know that at the Lipizzan studs they always ( used to ?) have a bay stallion ?
They thought that if not, the grey colour would be "too strong" and dilute the colours too much .
The explanation of course is, that there used to be cream genes in the lipizzans, and when the horses went grey, it might be forgotten that it was borne buckskin or smoky black.
If two of there were paired, the risk was 25 %, that you would get a Blue-eyed-cream, ei too much dilution.
Funny to think of, it is not many years ago that most people thought that BECs were ill, and that this "illness" often was carried by greys . tongue

I know that they always have a "lucky" dark bay (often mistaken for a black)
at the Spanish Riding School in Vienna.
The luck will abandon the stable when the last one leaves Very Happy  

I did not know about the "too much dilution"-"grey to double cream"-"sick horse" theory Laughing


nerdy part (skip if bored Laughing ):

What always surprises me is that such "theories" sometimes turn out as actually containing some sence within them.
Lipizzaners have a problem with skin cancer (melanoma) around the "under the tail" area (not necessarily malignant).
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A melanoma is a dark-pigmented skin tumor. In human medical terminology, all melanomas are malignant. Among animals, however, melanomas may be either benign (not cancerous) or malignant (cancerous). Most melanomas found in horses occur in those with gray coats, in which the coat turns gray (or white) with age. They are especially common in Lipizzaners, Arabians, and Percherons. It has been found that up to 80% of gray or white horses of these breeds may be affected.

The lighter the horse hairs - the bigger the risk (the skin is dark).
Heterozygous Gg horses are a bit darker than homozygous GG horses, grey out a bit slower and are often fleabitten grays.
Having a dark horse somehow makes sure that the "heterozygousness" is preserved within the population and thus makes the melanoma risk lower.
So having a dark horse within the gray population is indeed lucky. Amazing.

Scientific research:
Complex Inheritance of Melanoma and Pigmentation of Coat and Skin in Grey Horses
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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:56 pm

I really enjoy your idea of making the foundation stallions for Lipizzans. That's an excelent project and it surely helped you to study more your beloved breed as well as making such wonderful works. Very Happy Fortunately, I also have seen Susanne's Snowman, what a precious custom! Shocked

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:11 pm

Thank you Very Happy

Fancy 17th century baroque tack for my lipizzaners:
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It is still a prototype with a lot of flaws.
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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:10 pm

Wow it's gorgeous! I love it Shocked Shocked Shocked cheers cheers Stunning! cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:32 pm

Wow! Amazing! Congratulations!!! cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:50 pm

Wow, it looks really awesome Shocked cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:29 pm

thank you Very Happy

new dark blue tack:
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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:04 pm

What an unusually coloured horse! It has such a lovely finish Applause

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:16 pm

She's very beautiful! I love your unusual horse colors and the way you make them look like real horses cheers Great job!

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:20 pm

Wow wow Wow Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! affraid affraid affraid affraid affraid affraid affraid
I really like them!!! drunken drunken drunken I would love get the brown lippizanner with that tack

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:20 pm

Lovely horses cheers
The tack is wonderful, as always. Serendipity is beautifully painted too! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:19 pm

Thank you Very Happy

Here are the images from
LS Stuttgart 20.09.2014
which I visited last Saturday
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It was a nice show, with a lot of very nice horses :)


This beauty came home with me:
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It's my first resin.
She's sabino bay and is now called Gnossienne 1
Model is Crusher, mini resin by Kitty Cantrell.
Painter: Eva Dotzler, pastel (acryl for the whites, as far as I can tell)


Tombola catch and 2 bodies cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:05 pm

Beautiful newcomer this Gnossienne 1 !!!! Congratulations! cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:14 pm

A great day and great catches cheers

Arrrw, that Gnossienne is a beauty !!! drunken


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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:45 pm

Ooh I love Crusher! Congrats!

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:28 pm

Omg that resin is fabulous! Congratulations!
Curious to see those two finished too Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Sun Oct 05, 2014 4:08 pm

Tnx Very Happy

I don't have so much time for repainting lately Sad

New tack for the two of my historical lipizzaners:
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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Sun Oct 05, 2014 4:44 pm

Very nice models - I very like this roan horse Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:09 am

Yes Dorotea, this bay roan is just fantastic! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Sun Oct 26, 2014 6:53 pm

tnx Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:17 pm

Looking great! Shocked cheers
I like the dark one the best. It has a more contrast

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:51 pm

Ohhhh I absolutely adore the bay roan! He's just stunning! I love you

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