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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:09 pm

Excellent work on the grey!

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:05 pm

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Wow! Shocked I love them both! Lovely colors and beautiful manes&tails! Great job! cheers cheers cheers 

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:17 pm

BEAUTIFUL!!! drunken  One is Spirit!!  I love you I love you I love you 

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:43 pm

First a no-flash image of the previous two:
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A special little project of mine - Eohippus (The Dawn Horse) i.e. Hyracotherium:
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The color was a mixure of this one:
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and an extreme dun factor
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This was kind of a shape reference, but the neck of my "eo" is a bit too long - I'm happy with him anyway
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Often they show different "stages" like e.g. Mio- or Mesohippus; Plio- or Dinohippus etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:19 pm

It's so good! Small and very cute drunken Great job!

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:06 pm

YESSS !!!!  cheers 
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Dorotea, you did a fantastic job ! A wonderful Eohippo , - super sculpt and lovely, lovely paintwork  drunken 
Thankyou also very much for the info ! I never heard about extreme dun-factor before  Very Happy 

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:39 am

Very nice work  cheers cheers cheers 

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Sun Aug 17, 2014 6:50 pm

Oh, what a lovely customs you've made the past weeks cheers
I especially like your lippizaner descendent line. Very interesting and also beautiful customs. I've never really read into lippizaner ancestors. I do know about the thoroughbred "founding fathers" as I have pedigreed some thoroughbred model horses.  scratch  study 
Anyway, I guess your local schleich distributor must be running out of schleich lippizan molds  Laughing 

Your little Eohippus is a very charming little guy cheers again you've thought us some more history about horses. And you've done great research too  Applause Can't wait to see more bounce

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:52 am

Thank you Very Happy

Last Saturday I've visited my first Model Horse Live Show in Bensheim, Germany (as a visitor only).
I think I've gotten an idea of what does live-show-quality LSQ mean
plus I've seen a lot of very nice horses and colors and tack  Very Happy
I'm into lipizzaners so this is a lipizzaner-summary of the show:
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A new horse, can't decide if he/she is finished or do I need to add some dirt/imperfections:
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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:14 am

Great purchases!

I hope someday I'll be in one of these shows
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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:52 pm

That looks like it was a huge show! Is that ring 12?? Shocked

I can tell you like the ARs the best. Wink


Another great horse, and I can't wait to see your new purchases get new colors!

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:58 pm

I hope you had great time there! cheers
Those are some beautiful lipizzaners - specially the schleich mare Surprised
And yay - I'm super excited to see those bodies with new color etc Very Happy beautiful arab Wink cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:37 pm

Beautiful Eohippus! Congratulations!!!

And thank you for sharing photos from the show! Many beautiful models I can see there! Very Happy Very Happy
Is this show every year? It would be so much fun to go and see it! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:59 am

tnx Very Happy

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That looks like it was a huge show! Is that ring 12?? Shocked

Yes that was ring 12 Laughing
Since this was the first model horse show I visited, I have no feeling for its size...


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Is this show every year? It would be so much fun to go and see it! Very Happy

Yes it is every year, this was the 14th one in Bensheim.
It was, so it seems, a bit more Breyer-oriented, since it was organized by a german Breyer store.
They seem to have a lot of such "Live Shows" in Germany, this is what I managed to figure out at the MPV forum:
13.09.2014 LS Bonn                  
20.09.2014 Stuttgarter Live-Schau
04.10.2014 Hannover Classics
11.10.2014 2. Aachener Round UP
25.10.2014 2. LS Magdeburg        
01.11.2014 Model Horse Lübeck        

I have no idea about the size or content of these shows...
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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:49 pm

Your customs and repaints are absolutely amazing.
I really love the dappled grey Lipizzaner, he's gorgeous.
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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:35 pm

tnx Very Happy

A little horse-intermezzo, since it's so cold  Laughing

This is a custom of "Carneval Ride" in a croatian region of Slavonia.
Its roots are historical: horsemen used to patrol the borders of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and guard it against the turkish intrusions.
On the way to and from the border they were passing through villages singing songs
and sometimes the villagers would offer them some food and drinks.
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This event transformed into the todays carneval rides and is being held in many villages during February up to March. The best looking horse, and also the rider is chosen Very Happy
The horse is a traditional slavonian "peasant's" horse - the lipizzaner.
Slavonia (not to be confused with Slovenia) has the largest number of lipizzan horses owned by private breeders in the world.


Most of the horses are breed typical greys.
However, there is also a large number of dark horses - bays and blacks.
Croatian Folk songs mostly praise the dark horses.
In them bays or blacks are usually referd to as a "treasure"
(I guess it was indeed much easier for a peasant to take care of a dark horse)  
Today, many people also especially treasure the dark lipizzans.
As an example, a price of a nicely paired carriage couple of black lipizzans is enormous when compared with a gray pair.

Many of the gray horses are fleabitten grays - this is almost a sure indicator that a horse is a heterozygous gray so Gg not GG.
This means that there is a 25% chance of getting a dark horse when two Gg horses breed, and explains their large numbers.
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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:14 pm

The live show must have been so much fun to go to. All those lovely customs! Eye candies everywhere Laughing
I am, like every one else, very curios to see what you'll make of your newly achieved bodies. The last custom is also very nice! I don't see anything you should change.

Your little intermezzo about the treasures is very nice and interesting too. I like your informative parts a lot, and wouldn't mind if you do that more often Very Happy Soon everyone on STS will be a lipizzaner expert cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:59 am

tnx Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:14 pm

Some stunning colors! Shocked Shocked That's so nice you're doing so many same looking like horses with different color! Congrats they're just great cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:46 am

Very wonderful works and events! Very Happy I love specially your prehistoric horse project! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:47 pm

tnx jonesee and Roger :)

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:58 pm

Siglavy, what a beauty. Those mane and tale, love the spotties :3 <3

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:17 pm

Oh, I love the gray one! Wonderful work cheers cheers And the darker has such a beautiful color Shocked Shocked

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:14 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:23 pm

I've only just scrolled through your whole post for the first time, what amazing horses you have! My favourites are definitely your various Arabian repaints-they are just stunning Shocked Applause Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:32 pm

I am getting completely behind Shocked Sleep

WOW!! Those lipizzan horses in the snow I love you drunken
Do you know that at the Lipizzan studs they always ( used to ?) have a bay stallion ?
They thought that if not, the grey colour would be "too strong" and dilute the colours too much .
The explanation of course is, that there used to be cream genes in the lipizzans, and when the horses went grey, it might be forgotten that it was borne buckskin or smoky black.
If two of there were paired, the risk was 25 %, that you would get a Blue-eyed-cream, ei too much dilution.
Funny to think of, it is not many years ago that most people thought that BECs were ill, and that this "illness" often was carried by greys . tongue

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:35 pm

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I've only just scrolled through your whole post for the first time, what amazing horses you have! My favourites are definitely your various Arabian repaints-they are just stunning Shocked Applause Very Happy

Me too, I have been looking back, and I just can not stop drooling cheers cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:01 pm

More wonderful horses! They are lovely! Very Happy The brown one with golden ribbons is especially elegant Very Happy

And thank you for posting photos of Lipizzaners on "Carneval Ride" I love you Beautiful horses!!! cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:19 pm

Thank you everybody, you are very kind Very Happy


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Do you know that at the Lipizzan studs they always ( used to ?) have a bay stallion ?
They thought that if not, the grey colour would be "too strong" and dilute the colours too much .
The explanation of course is, that there used to be cream genes in the lipizzans, and when the horses went grey, it might be forgotten that it was borne buckskin or smoky black.
If two of there were paired, the risk was 25 %, that you would get a Blue-eyed-cream, ei too much dilution.
Funny to think of, it is not many years ago that most people thought that BECs were ill, and that this "illness" often was carried by greys . tongue

I know that they always have a "lucky" dark bay (often mistaken for a black)
at the Spanish Riding School in Vienna.
The luck will abandon the stable when the last one leaves Very Happy  

I did not know about the "too much dilution"-"grey to double cream"-"sick horse" theory Laughing


nerdy part (skip if bored Laughing ):

What always surprises me is that such "theories" sometimes turn out as actually containing some sence within them.
Lipizzaners have a problem with skin cancer (melanoma) around the "under the tail" area (not necessarily malignant).
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A melanoma is a dark-pigmented skin tumor. In human medical terminology, all melanomas are malignant. Among animals, however, melanomas may be either benign (not cancerous) or malignant (cancerous). Most melanomas found in horses occur in those with gray coats, in which the coat turns gray (or white) with age. They are especially common in Lipizzaners, Arabians, and Percherons. It has been found that up to 80% of gray or white horses of these breeds may be affected.

The lighter the horse hairs - the bigger the risk (the skin is dark).
Heterozygous Gg horses are a bit darker than homozygous GG horses, grey out a bit slower and are often fleabitten grays.
Having a dark horse somehow makes sure that the "heterozygousness" is preserved within the population and thus makes the melanoma risk lower.
So having a dark horse within the gray population is indeed lucky. Amazing.

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Complex Inheritance of Melanoma and Pigmentation of Coat and Skin in Grey Horses
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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:56 pm

I really enjoy your idea of making the foundation stallions for Lipizzans. That's an excelent project and it surely helped you to study more your beloved breed as well as making such wonderful works. Very Happy Fortunately, I also have seen Susanne's Snowman, what a precious custom! Shocked

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:11 pm

Thank you Very Happy

Fancy 17th century baroque tack for my lipizzaners:
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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:10 pm

Wow it's gorgeous! I love it Shocked Shocked Shocked cheers cheers Stunning! cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:32 pm

Wow! Amazing! Congratulations!!! cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:50 pm

Wow, it looks really awesome Shocked cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:29 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:04 pm

What an unusually coloured horse! It has such a lovely finish Applause

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:16 pm

She's very beautiful! I love your unusual horse colors and the way you make them look like real horses cheers Great job!

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:20 pm

Wow wow Wow Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! affraid affraid affraid affraid affraid affraid affraid
I really like them!!! drunken drunken drunken I would love get the brown lippizanner with that tack

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:20 pm

Lovely horses cheers
The tack is wonderful, as always. Serendipity is beautifully painted too! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:19 pm

Thank you Very Happy

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It was a nice show, with a lot of very nice horses :)


This beauty came home with me:
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It's my first resin.
She's sabino bay and is now called Gnossienne 1
Model is Crusher, mini resin by Kitty Cantrell.
Painter: Eva Dotzler, pastel (acryl for the whites, as far as I can tell)


Tombola catch and 2 bodies cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:05 pm

Beautiful newcomer this Gnossienne 1 !!!! Congratulations! cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:14 pm

A great day and great catches cheers

Arrrw, that Gnossienne is a beauty !!! drunken


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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:45 pm

Ooh I love Crusher! Congrats!

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:28 pm

Omg that resin is fabulous! Congratulations!
Curious to see those two finished too Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Sun Oct 05, 2014 4:08 pm

Tnx Very Happy

I don't have so much time for repainting lately Sad

New tack for the two of my historical lipizzaners:
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My first (correctly made) pastel horse:
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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Sun Oct 05, 2014 4:44 pm

Very nice models - I very like this roan horse Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:09 am

Yes Dorotea, this bay roan is just fantastic! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Sun Oct 26, 2014 6:53 pm

tnx Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:17 pm

Looking great! Shocked cheers
I like the dark one the best. It has a more contrast

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PostSubject: Re: Dorotea's repainted horses   Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:51 pm

Ohhhh I absolutely adore the bay roan! He's just stunning! I love you

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