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Mgarat

Country/State : Spain Age : 60 Joined : 2015-03-09 Posts : 938
 | Subject: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:20 am | |
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LeeAnn Moderator

Country/State : United States Joined : 2013-01-20 Posts : 10336
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:33 pm | |
| You're a very fast sculptor!  Now color! |
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widukind

Country/State : Germany Age : 42 Joined : 2010-12-30 Posts : 27811
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:43 pm | |
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A-J

Country/State : The Netherlands Age : 22 Joined : 2012-05-11 Posts : 1287
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:48 pm | |
| - @LeeAnn wrote:
- You're a very fast sculptor!

I noticed that too!  It's looking quite nice! |
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Roger Admin

Country/State : Portugal Age : 43 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 22642
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:45 am | |
| Pumas are another interesting feline to be sculpted. As their fur color is not distinctive, sculpt is absolutly determinant to turn the figure identifiable. Not easy to get everything correct, I know head is specially important and not easy to get correctly. Could you please use larger pictures, 800 px is nice enough, 400 px is very small, unless for me. |
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Mgarat

Country/State : Spain Age : 60 Joined : 2015-03-09 Posts : 938
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:32 pm | |
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Tarunyada

Country/State : The Netherlands Age : 23 Joined : 2012-12-19 Posts : 3238
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:33 pm | |
| Again, what a beauty  Well done |
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Roger Admin

Country/State : Portugal Age : 43 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 22642
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:40 pm | |
| Very nice! Maybe you can give a more vertical shape to ears and turn more conspicuous the vertical line splitting forehead. However, check it before any kind of changes. Recomendations from a non sculptor are often compromised for an important lack of experience and these figures are very small so I don't know the level of detail possible to execute on them. :) |
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Mgarat

Country/State : Spain Age : 60 Joined : 2015-03-09 Posts : 938
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Sun Apr 19, 2015 7:35 pm | |
| It is incredible!!! It looks like if you were inside of my brain. I was wondering was no fine in the face of my puma and it is exactly what you said. I am now in the process not only to change the ears to a bigger ones but also to emphasize cheeks... I will show you the final result.
Thank you again for so valuable advises. |
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costicuba

Country/State : Bulgaria Age : 36 Joined : 2014-06-14 Posts : 2501
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Sun Apr 19, 2015 7:57 pm | |
| Very nice model Mgarat :)) Nice colors too..:)) Will be great if you change the ears, good point from like Roger and you allready knew this by yourself :) And good choice for the cheeks too :)) I want to say just for the eyes...I think, that they are a bit bigger...but I allmost shure, you can`t change that.. With bigger cheeks, maybe this will be fixed better :))
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Mgarat

Country/State : Spain Age : 60 Joined : 2015-03-09 Posts : 938
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Sun Apr 19, 2015 10:45 pm | |
| You think is not possible to reduce the size of the eyes? If I were you I wouldn´t bet on it... I don't know if the final result will be better or worse but I am decided to make bigger ears, highlight cheeks, turn more conspicuous the vertical line in the forehead and REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE EYES!!!!.  Then we will see. Anyway, thank you ery ery ery much for your good directions |
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Roger Admin

Country/State : Portugal Age : 43 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 22642
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:04 pm | |
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costicuba

Country/State : Bulgaria Age : 36 Joined : 2014-06-14 Posts : 2501
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:18 pm | |
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NightLioness Moderator

Country/State : The Netherlands, Friesland. Age : 27 Joined : 2013-11-04 Posts : 4604
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:24 pm | |
| Beautiful animal, and I like you photos! _________________ ~Karin~
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Mgarat

Country/State : Spain Age : 60 Joined : 2015-03-09 Posts : 938
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:47 pm | |
| Just pending to be refined and repainted, what do you think about this new approach? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.][You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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costicuba

Country/State : Bulgaria Age : 36 Joined : 2014-06-14 Posts : 2501
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:31 am | |
| Ok, so, for me now the cheekbones are a bit bigger....in the previous version, they were ok, just to make them more highlight . And the cheeks, can me a bit bigger :) What I mean is this : [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.][You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]And the real examples : [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.][You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]I hope, I can help with that...  |
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Roger Admin

Country/State : Portugal Age : 43 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 22642
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:06 am | |
| These pictures are external links so no credits needed. Pay atention to the shape of the nose, from the region between eyes to the nasal holes. The darker hairs and markings help you understanding what is different from your figure. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]This second picture is to explain about the top of the head and ears. Between ears, it is almost a straight line with a central depression, almost no elevations close to the ears but instead a harmonic connection with the base of the ears giving it an almost trapzoidal shape. Ears are nice, longer indeed, but now notice the outer flanks. They are wavy almost like a butterfly wing. The left ear of your puma (my right hand), seems slightly wavy but the other not. Eyes are not easy to explain, your figure have them obliquous what seems natural for a feline. Though, if you notice, the dark lines outmarking the top of the eys are almost parallel with the top of the head if you take it as a straight line. What makes them appear more obliquous than they are, is when the dark strip drops towards the lacrimal region and the dark area that outlines the bottom part of the eye. It is always hard to explain and quite stressfull to the sculptor. So, don't change anything if my explanations are not clear or if you just don't agree. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Last edited by Roger on Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:09 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Sorry Kosta, I haven't seen your post!) |
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Mgarat

Country/State : Spain Age : 60 Joined : 2015-03-09 Posts : 938
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:44 am | |
| Interesting points. Working on them...thanks again |
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Mgarat

Country/State : Spain Age : 60 Joined : 2015-03-09 Posts : 938
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:06 am | |
| So, I almost have to remake the entire head and even part of the neck. In order to avoid distractions while sculpting I cover it again with prime . The only thing I think is pending, apart from polishing, is to highlight the supraorbital ridge with a very small piece of clay to bury a little bit the eye globes mainly in the top and inner sides, what I think will make the eyes a little bit smaller. Then this is how it is now. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.][You must be registered and logged in to see this image.][You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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Ana

Country/State : come from Poland now live in The Netherlands Age : 31 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 9764
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:53 am | |
| I think that's a big improvement! it looks more realistic now I don't know if that was what you meant in your comment but I think adding a bit of clay above the eyes will make them sit deeper in skull like it is in reality. What do you think? Or is that what you were going to do anyway? |
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Mgarat

Country/State : Spain Age : 60 Joined : 2015-03-09 Posts : 938
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:45 am | |
| Exactly! you cacth my point perfectly! |
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costicuba

Country/State : Bulgaria Age : 36 Joined : 2014-06-14 Posts : 2501
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:02 pm | |
| Much more better now And I`m happy , that you deside to change also the neck :) Good improvement Mgarat :) |
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signatus

Country/State : Spain Age : 54 Joined : 2011-01-31 Posts : 1096
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:47 pm | |
| Very good job, the touches that have made fully believe that improve and give the model a perfect look of a puma.  !! |
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Wilorvise

Country/State : Michigan, USA Age : 34 Joined : 2014-08-24 Posts : 2127
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:51 pm | |
| Very nicely done. Your figures have such charming personalities. :) _________________ Laura
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Roger Admin

Country/State : Portugal Age : 43 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 22642
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Mgarat

Country/State : Spain Age : 60 Joined : 2015-03-09 Posts : 938
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:12 pm | |
| Thank you Kosta, Miguel, Laura and Rogério...now repainting!!! |
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Mgarat

Country/State : Spain Age : 60 Joined : 2015-03-09 Posts : 938
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:01 pm | |
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Tarunyada

Country/State : The Netherlands Age : 23 Joined : 2012-12-19 Posts : 3238
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Mgarat

Country/State : Spain Age : 60 Joined : 2015-03-09 Posts : 938
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:03 pm | |
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costicuba

Country/State : Bulgaria Age : 36 Joined : 2014-06-14 Posts : 2501
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:15 am | |
| Wowww...so beautifuly painted head You realy made the head to look great now. Bravo ! The model look`s very very nice |
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Roger Admin

Country/State : Portugal Age : 43 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 22642
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:18 am | |
| Looking really great now! |
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Kikimalou Admin

Country/State : Lille, FRANCE Age : 53 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 15009
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:58 am | |
| It is at his best  Great work |
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Mgarat

Country/State : Spain Age : 60 Joined : 2015-03-09 Posts : 938
 | Subject: Re: 1:20 Cougar (Puma Concolor) Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:29 pm | |
| Thanks Kosta, Tarunyada, Rogério and Christophe. Your help has been proven essential
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