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PostSubject: K&M Mini Series   Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:35 pm

Again, a little research topic Smile

I was actually searching for a Play Visions giraffe I own, when I found a post by Sean (sbell) on AnimalToyForum.com where I saw this photo of a 'K&M mini giraffe':

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What, a K&M minis series?? Hurray!! cheers So I started searching the internet for K&M minis when I found a site of a dinosaur toy collector with the next photo on it:

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The owner writes that the little yellow-brown stegosaurus on the left is a K&M figurine. Maybe you don't recognize the little fellow, but I do. Remember some photos I shared here on STS of cute little dinosaurs of which I had no idea what they were?

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Well, seems they are some sort of K&M minis Laughing

When I searched for 'K&M minis' here on STS, I found [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] topic which included the next photograph from Taylor:

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I'm just in love with the tiny tapir and bongo drunken

But now for the information about these series. I have no idea if they were originally called 'K&M minis'. I know they made at least 3 series: zoo animals, marine animals and dinosaurs. Sean told me he bought them about 15 years ago and I remember getting my first tiny dinosaurs in 2001, so that would be around the same time.

Okay, enough talking from my side. My question is if anyone knows more about these figurines/series (maybe you own some?) or if you see anything about it, would you please let me know? Thanks in advance Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:50 pm

WOW! This is interesting Shocked

Of course I remember your tiny dinos, they are the cutest ever drunken
Amazing that you found that old topic with the wild animals, - I don't remember those, - thay are also adoreable Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:36 pm

That's another good chance to talk about the fabulous work Julie is making on TAI. Currently she is helping, hardly, with K&M/Wild Republic section. This brand has much more than we ever expected and I don't know if we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg. I think that if we all contribute, we can provide an extensive and very complete source of information on TAI. My thanks also to Andreas, Lance and other members that are providing info about this company. cheers
If someone has more informations, catalogues, leaflets, figures or anything else missing on TAI, just contact us or post on forum please. Very Happy

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PostSubject: K&M Mini sets photos   Mon Jun 29, 2015 12:24 am

I was asked by Julie to post pictures of what I have.

What I can tell people is that there were at least 2 themes--sea, wild and dinosaur. There were 3 different sets of each, each came on a blister card with the little plastic suitcase and a pullback jeep, or at least some came with those (I may even still have some tiny jeeps).

I do not have all of them, but I do have some--8 of the sea animals, 17 of the wild animals (because I lost the kangaroo around 2000 when I moved cities) and all 18 'dinos' (which range from pre-dinosaur Permian to Ice Age). And none of them came with identification; simple enough with modern animals, but the dinos can be maddeningly 'creative':

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(I bought this one much later, maybe 2007--sometimes you luck out in smaller, less busy tourist traps!)

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(I love the tamandua and ratel)

Prehistoric:
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These come from the true K&M International days, where Wild Republic was just their plush line, and their toy lines were out of this world--between them and Play Visions, I drove my local retailers crazy looking through the catalogs and getting in odd sets. I don't have them all anymore though. Safari is probably the closest in quality, range, and 'size diversity' but still don't really come close in the toob-to-mini size ranges.

But, sometimes K&M still has little gems if you know where to look:

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The sharks are from little rubber balls that they sell in bulk. I managed a dinosaur museum and we got these in (there are fossil sharks in the area, it counts!). My son and I bought one of each and pulled them apart--and they are fantastic (if tiny) shark figures. Still the only lantern shark and cat shark figures made.
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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:46 am

Thankyou very, very much, Sbell !!! I never knew all this cheers

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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:16 am

Very interesting topic! The figurines that sbell share with us i never saw before. The ray is really interesting for me :)

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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:36 pm

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Very interesting topic! The figurines that sbell share with us i never saw before. The ray is really interesting for me :)

That's why I bought that set! I am pretty sure that the store had all three sets, but I didn't need all of them, so I went with this one. I couldn't even tell you what was in the other ones (although a good bet would be a great white shark and a bottlenose dolphin, but I can't prove it).
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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:18 pm

I am glad Julie found these, they are absolutely adorable!

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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Mon Jun 29, 2015 5:14 pm

Sbell, thanks for your contribution. I am sure next time Julie will find some life sized replicas of ... microbes! Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Mon Jun 29, 2015 5:51 pm

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That's another good chance to talk about the fabulous work Julie is making on TAI.

Embarassed Thanks, Roger Very Happy

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I was asked by Julie to post pictures of what I have.

Thank you very much, Sean! cheers This is really helpful; great (or actually tiny Laughing) figurines!! I absolutely adore some of the figurines from the wild animals series. The red fox, ratel, sow leopard, tamandua, badger, pangolin and wolf.. You're really lucky you have these gems!

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I am glad Julie found these, they are absolutely adorable!

With lots of help from Sean Very Happy

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I am sure next time Julie will find some life sized replicas of ... microbes! Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:14 pm

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Sbell, thanks for your contribution. I am sure next time Julie will find some life sized replicas of ... microbes! Laughing

I have a set of oversized microbes from Bandai...just saying! Cool


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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:19 pm

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Still the only lantern shark and cat shark figures made.

Arrrgh, more for my wishlist with the ray!

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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:56 pm

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Still the only lantern shark and cat shark figures made.

Arrrgh, more for my wishlist with the ray!

The balls are still widely available at least! Or at least were...I haven't had much to do with WR for a long while.
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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:50 pm

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Still the only lantern shark and cat shark figures made.

Arrrgh, more for my wishlist with the ray!

The balls are still widely available at least! Or at least were...I haven't had much to do with WR for a long while.

So please let me know if you see them :)

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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:59 pm

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Still the only lantern shark and cat shark figures made.

Arrrgh, more for my wishlist with the ray!

The balls are still widely available at least! Or at least were...I haven't had much to do with WR for a long while.

So please let me know if you see them :)

When I ran a gift shop we always had them, but I haven't been there for a while (nor will I be returning). I really should have gotten a couple extra of those shark species.

The good part is that the balls separate really easily--just need to make a start cut a pry it open.
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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:10 pm

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Still the only lantern shark and cat shark figures made.

Arrrgh, more for my wishlist with the ray!

The balls are still widely available at least! Or at least were...I haven't had much to do with WR for a long while.

So please let me know if you see them :)

When I ran a gift shop we always had them, but I haven't been there for a while (nor will I be returning). I really should have gotten a couple extra of those shark species.

The good part is that the balls separate really easily--just need to make a start cut a pry it open.

That would be great :)

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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Mon May 23, 2016 11:11 pm

Trough Roger (fox search list XD) I found this topic again and I am again melting from cuteness!

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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Tue May 02, 2017 5:12 am

Apologies for resurrecting a very old thread, but I happened across these on TAI (thanks to Susanne and froggie for the great work on that page!) and I'm curious about the prehistoric set. Sean suggested they aren't identified in any way--but some of the molds resemble slightly "rounded" versions of the Panini or Play Visions dinosaur sets. Is that the basis on which they were identified? Thanks for any additional information you might be able to furnish.
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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Tue May 02, 2017 5:20 am

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Apologies for resurrecting a very old thread, but I happened across these on TAI (thanks to Susanne and froggie for the great work on that page!) and I'm curious about the prehistoric set. Sean suggested they aren't identified in any way--but some of the molds resemble slightly "rounded" versions of the Panini or Play Visions dinosaur sets. Is that the basis on which they were identified? Thanks for any additional information you might be able to furnish.

Most of it was guessing--trying to count theropod fingers, assuming that the sauropods or ankylosaurs would be based on the most common species, things like that.

They are very not-Panini though. Each one is maybe 1 cm long--I can't recall if the detail is mostly painted or sculpted, but they are overall pretty generic as far as details go. And they don't really resemble any other series. I might have, at the time, kind of used the Panini series as a basis, just to put names to them, but that's about it.

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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Tue May 02, 2017 5:34 am

Thanks for that! I was thinking of the Mosasaurus, the Diatryma, and the Megatherium, which are reminiscent of the Panini Tylosaurus, Diatryma, and Moropus, respectively. The Edmontonia almost has a Dino Mites vibe, though the mold itself isn't specifically familiar to me. I didn't realize they were that tiny--1 cm!
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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Tue May 02, 2017 7:49 am

Oh, i see i found the tiny ray :) now i hunt for the sharks

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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Tue May 02, 2017 11:09 am

Very interesting, Halich and Sean! I've just created the gallery this week end with Beatrice's pictures.
I do really think they are direct minis from those we known from [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and I think it is clever to use them as reference.
They're not exact miniatures but they do really look inspired on them.
We can see it through the species before mentioned and even the Apatosaurus/Brontosaurus.
Wing Mau is the manufacturer of both series. We can find some of these figures in their website. They also manufactured the Play Visions versions.
The website is not identifying these K&M minis but Panini counterparts are marked with animal name.
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Arsinotherium is Coelodonta
Diadectes is cynognatus Crying or Very sad
Edmontonia is Polacanthus
Hadrosaurus is Camptosaurus
Maiasaura is Iguanodon
Megatherium is Moropus
Mosasaurus is Tylosaurus
Pachycephalosaurus is Corythosaurus
Saichania is Palaeoscincus

These are correct:
Apatosaurus/Brontosaurus
Ankylosaurus
Brachiosaurus
Diatryma
Dimetrodon
Elasmosaurus
Ichthyosaurus
Parasaurolophus
Protoceratops
Pteranodon
Smilodon
Stegosaurus
Triceratops
Tyrannosaurus
Wooly mammoth/Mammuthus

What do you think? scratch

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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Tue May 02, 2017 2:35 pm

It's a pretty good way to try and begin to ID them. Of course, the Parasaurolophus is distintive enough to remain. And the Hadrosaurus has a crest, so it should be the Corythosaurus.

I was never comfortable with the ID on the little blue 'Diadectes'. It didn't look like a cynodont to me at all--but then, neither do the Panini cynodonts...! It still seems far too heavy set to be one, but they are heavily stylized (and old-fashioned).

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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Tue May 02, 2017 4:12 pm

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It's a pretty good way to try and begin to ID them. Of course, the Parasaurolophus is distintive enough to remain. And the Hadrosaurus has a crest, so it should be the Corythosaurus.

I was never comfortable with the ID on the little blue 'Diadectes'. It didn't look like a cynodont to me at all--but then, neither do the Panini cynodonts...! It still seems far too heavy set to be one, but they are heavily stylized (and old-fashioned).

Actually I find it quite impressive that you could identify most of them. These figures, especially the minis, are quite far from anything plausible.
If the hadrosaurus is the corithosaurus, so, the only left to the pachycephalosaurus is the camptosaurus. Do you think they match? scratch
I believe that I messed some ornithopods, if we find a good pairing, I start sorting them according with the Panini.
It is a pity about the diadectes once it is a quite rare figure in toy shape but I think we should follow the evidences. So, Halich is finding out that thanks to his post, there's no diadectes in his collection. Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Tue May 02, 2017 4:26 pm

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It's a pretty good way to try and begin to ID them. Of course, the Parasaurolophus is distintive enough to remain. And the Hadrosaurus has a crest, so it should be the Corythosaurus.

I was never comfortable with the ID on the little blue 'Diadectes'. It didn't look like a cynodont to me at all--but then, neither do the Panini cynodonts...! It still seems far too heavy set to be one, but they are heavily stylized (and old-fashioned).

Actually I find it quite impressive that you could identify most of them. These figures, especially the minis, are quite far from anything plausible.
If the hadrosaurus is the corithosaurus, so, the only left to the pachycephalosaurus is the camptosaurus.  Do you think they match? scratch
I believe that I messed some ornithopods, if we find a good pairing, I start sorting them according with the Panini.
It is a pity about the diadectes once it is a quite rare figure in toy shape but I think we should follow the evidences. So, Halich is finding out that thanks to his post, there's no diadectes in his collection. Laughing

Ha ha, I actually had no idea that figure even existed. It's more that I found out there is no Diadectes for me to try to hunt down :)

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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Tue May 02, 2017 6:21 pm

Honestly, you could call it whatever you want. In terms of shape it is more like Diadectes anyway.

While using Panini as a jumping point is useful for the sort-of generic figures, they were produced far later and wouldn't include the same animals.

As for conflating Camptosaurus with Parasaurolophus, given that they are kind of unrelated ornithopods (iguanodont vs hadrosaur) and one has a distinct crest, while the other has thumb spikes, I would not recommend it.

The assignment of the Pachycephalosaurus and Maiasaura would also be shaky, as those figures are pretty theropod-like. Which is what was tricky about them. Don't even get started on counting fingers and toes...

I'm also surprised that there aren't more of the sea creatures aren't pictured--I sent Beatrice a set of 8 when I sent here...a lot!

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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Tue May 02, 2017 10:58 pm

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Honestly, you could call it whatever you want. In terms of shape it is more like Diadectes anyway.

While using Panini as a jumping point is useful for the sort-of generic figures, they were produced far later and wouldn't include the same animals.

As for conflating Camptosaurus with Parasaurolophus, given that they are kind of unrelated ornithopods (iguanodont vs hadrosaur) and one has a distinct crest, while the other has thumb spikes, I would not recommend it.

The assignment of the Pachycephalosaurus and Maiasaura would also be shaky, as those figures are pretty theropod-like. Which is what was tricky about them. Don't even get started on counting fingers and toes...

I'm also surprised that there aren't more of the sea creatures aren't pictured--I sent Beatrice a set of 8 when I sent here...a lot!

Beatrice will surely enter these figures on TAI later. She has an impressive contribution to te wiki and his collection is quite huge and she is taking new pictures of all her figures.
About your identifications, I am not questioning them. I trust more in you than in what these chubby figures intend to represent. Laughing The problem, is that often figures are marketed not exactly according with what is being represented and I've found it incredible how similar is this set when compared with Panini's. I am not talking about individual models but as a group of animals.
Conflating is my favorite personal sports, so don't get shocked if I call edmontonia to an edmontosaurus or brontotherium to a brontosaurus. This is not definitively my cup of tea and I am very thankful to you regarding this subject. Very Happy
So, before your last post, I changed some of them but if you think these work better the other way, I rename it back.
Arsinotherium, now Coelodonta
Diadectes now cynognatus
Edmontonia now Polacanthus
Maiasaura now Iguanodon
Megatherium now Moropus
Mosasaurus now Tylosaurus
Saichania now Palaeoscincus

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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Wed May 03, 2017 2:22 am

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Honestly, you could call it whatever you want. In terms of shape it is more like Diadectes anyway.

While using Panini as a jumping point is useful for the sort-of generic figures, they were produced far later and wouldn't include the same animals.

As for conflating Camptosaurus with Parasaurolophus, given that they are kind of unrelated ornithopods (iguanodont vs hadrosaur) and one has a distinct crest, while the other has thumb spikes, I would not recommend it.

The assignment of the Pachycephalosaurus and Maiasaura would also be shaky, as those figures are pretty theropod-like. Which is what was tricky about them. Don't even get started on counting fingers and toes...

I'm also surprised that there aren't more of the sea creatures aren't pictured--I sent Beatrice a set of 8 when I sent here...a lot!

Beatrice will surely enter these figures on TAI later. She has an impressive contribution to te wiki and his collection is quite huge and she is taking new pictures of all her figures.
About your identifications, I am not questioning them. I trust more in you than in what these chubby figures intend to represent. Laughing The problem, is that often figures are marketed not exactly according with what is being represented and I've found it incredible how similar is this set when compared with Panini's. I am not talking about individual models but as a group of animals.
Conflating is my favorite personal sports, so don't get shocked if I call edmontonia to an edmontosaurus or brontotherium to a brontosaurus. This is not definitively my cup of tea and I am very thankful to you regarding this subject. Very Happy
So, before your last post, I changed some of them but if you think these work better the other way, I rename it back.
Arsinotherium, now Coelodonta
Diadectes now cynognatus  
Edmontonia now Polacanthus
Maiasaura now Iguanodon
Megatherium now Moropus
Mosasaurus now Tylosaurus
Saichania now Palaeoscincus

I think those can work.

Still don't like the little blue one as a cynodont of any kind...still looks more like a diadectimorph that anything else. But, yes, they are pretty generic overall...!

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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Thu May 04, 2017 8:22 pm

Those tiny figures are cute! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: K&M Mini Series   Thu May 04, 2017 8:49 pm

SO great that this topic was brought forward again cheers

They are so lovely drunken

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