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PostSubject: Show us yours (mid-August)--non-mammal Synapsids!   Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:50 am

So I was asked to create a second Show Us Your thread this month—this one to show the synapsids, those animals that were ancestral to the mammals.

I have…a lot of prehistoric animals, including a lot of synapsids (and prehistoric mammals…I am really behind on those in the other thread). So I’ll get it rolling, but I’m always looking to find others.

I guess it’s important to clarify the synapsids. It would include animals like Dimetrodon & Edaphosaurus (pelycosaurs); Lycaenops (Gorgonopsids); Moschops (Dinocephalians); Placerias (Dicynodonts) and Cynognathus (Cynodonts), as examples. This group of animals is part of the same massive group that includes the mammals, joined primarily by the location of a particular fossa in the skull. Mammals are the only surviving clade, but for a while various synapsid lines struggled for dominance as predators and herbivores; the end-Permian extinction event pretty much put an end to that.

Early figures were often represented as awkward, but upright, reptile-like animals (some were more lizard-ish); some current models and reconstructions make them more mammal-like, often including vibrissae (whiskers) if not hair. Overall, it is not a well-represented group in toy figures; some, like the Dinocephalia, have an insane range of morphology, but because they tend to be obscure, and come from less familiar locales (Siberia, South Africa) they don’t receive much public attention, so they don’t receive much model attention either!

I’m going to try and picture things by name/grouping.

Pelycosaurs:

Dimetrodon (it goes without saying, this is probably the most common one! It's too the point that I often don't seek them out anymore...)

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Cynognathus (some of these are very old school, and very reptile like)
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Alright—that’s everything I have. I am really hoping that there are more out there, it’s a very diverse bunch of animals, and it would be fantastic to know what else might be around!
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PostSubject: Re: Show us yours (mid-August)--non-mammal Synapsids!   Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:01 am

WOW !!!!! affraid
Utterly awesome collection !!!!

I look forward to having time to take a better look at them.
What a great opportunity for me to try learning more about these, our very-very early ancestors cheers

Thankyou ever so much for sharing Applause

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PostSubject: Re: Show us yours (mid-August)--non-mammal Synapsids!   Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:38 pm

Sean, I am so glad you opened this topic and it is also good that you don't show them all at once! Laughing
It is much easier for me once I only have two to show. pale I am not a collector of prhistoric figures although I find them very interesting, mainly these early creatures. OK, thanks to Susanne's generousness, soon, they'll be three. bounce
But, I think it is interesting to know what each person owns, even if it is already shown. Very Happy  ... am I the only one that will not show a dimetrodon? Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Show us yours (mid-August)--non-mammal Synapsids!   Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:22 pm

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Sean, I am so glad you opened this topic and it is also good that you don't show them all at once! Laughing
It is much easier for me once I only have two to show. pale I am not a collector of prhistoric figures although I find them very interesting, mainly these early creatures. OK, thanks to Susanne's generousness, soon, they'll be three. bounce
But, I think it is interesting to know what each person owns, even if it is already shown. Very Happy  ... am I the only one that will not show a dimetrodon? Laughing

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Yeah, I kind of overwhelmed in the first post....

But the Bullyland ones are among the best. When Bully was at it's peak, they were the best source for the more unusual species, especially from the Triassic.

Is there an ancient archosaurs thread? There would be several Bullys in that too!
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PostSubject: Re: Show us yours (mid-August)--non-mammal Synapsids!   Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:26 pm

The Prehistoric mammals are the first SUY with extinct animals, - I think that for most ignorants like me, it is very difficult to get so much overview that it is possible to split them up, and all of them is much too overwhelming scratch
Also many ( most?) of our collectors do not collect prehistoric animals to any great extent, so suggestions won't get many votes.

But now we have started.  cheers
Perhaps we could be a good idea if the experts thought of a good way to divide them into meaningful bites like it has been done here...and then perhaps make half-month topics a couple of times a year again ? Very Happy

What do y'all say ?

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PostSubject: Re: Show us yours (mid-August)--non-mammal Synapsids!   Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:40 pm

Hurrayyy, I thought I only had dimetrodons, but with help from TAI, I found these from Starlux  cheers

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Edaphosaur Untill these topiucs I thought it was a mammal Wink :
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PostSubject: Re: Show us yours (mid-August)--non-mammal Synapsids!   Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:03 pm

Your post made me realized I made an error before--I do have the Starlux Edaphosurus, but didn't realize that I accidentally posted the small Deiner one twice!

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PostSubject: Re: Show us yours (mid-August)--non-mammal Synapsids!   Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:16 pm

Very interesting SUY

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PostSubject: Re: Show us yours (mid-August)--non-mammal Synapsids!   Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:00 am

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Yeah, I kind of overwhelmed in the first post....

But the Bullyland ones are among the best. When Bully was at it's peak, they were the best source for the more unusual species, especially from the Triassic.

Is there an ancient archosaurs thread? There would be several Bullys in that too!

No, as Susanne commented, prehistoric mammals was the first SUY dedicated to prehistoric creatures and now this is the 2nd. I agree with Susanne, maybe we can open again a special middle month thread, and ancient archosaurs seems a very good suggestion once I love them either. Very Happy Middle October, perhaps, forum is more active in the last quarter of the year. scratch

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PostSubject: Re: Show us yours (mid-August)--non-mammal Synapsids!   Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:11 am

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Yeah, I kind of overwhelmed in the first post....

But the Bullyland ones are among the best. When Bully was at it's peak, they were the best source for the more unusual species, especially from the Triassic.

Is there an ancient archosaurs thread? There would be several Bullys in that too!

No, as Susanne commented, prehistoric mammals was the first SUY dedicated to prehistoric creatures and now this is the 2nd. I agree with Susanne, maybe we can open again a special middle month thread, and ancient archosaurs seems a very good suggestion once I love them either. Very Happy Middle October, perhaps, forum is more active in the last quarter of the year. scratch

It's probably busiest then because that's when the companies start trickling out information for the next year, plus people need to start gift lists for the winter season.
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PostSubject: Re: Show us yours (mid-August)--non-mammal Synapsids!   Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:00 am

It is no hurry !

But I surely can't make that topic . Googling, I find on [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] that it must be an immence group, covering " Crocodylia, dinosaurs, birds, and several extinct orders "

Perhaps it would be better to split it up into smaller bites? Prehistoric birds, prehistoric crocs and others that are easier to distinguish for people like me, so it does not all depend on poor Sbell ? scratch

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PostSubject: Re: Show us yours (mid-August)--non-mammal Synapsids!   Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:44 pm

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It is no hurry !

But I surely can't make that topic . Googling, I find on [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] that it must be an immence group, covering " Crocodylia, dinosaurs, birds, and several extinct orders "  

Perhaps it would be better to split it up into smaller bites? Prehistoric birds, prehistoric crocs and others that are easier to distinguish for people like me, so it does not all depend on poor Sbell ? scratch

That is true--the most common split is between the 'croc' lineage and the bird-pterosaur-dinosaur lineage. The latter is obviously more common as figures, and would be better split into much smaller clades. The 'croc' one is likely okay as pretty much 'the rest'; even with living crocodilians, there is a limit (and might give more people on the board a chance to contribute! The prehistoric side is not represented well enough in figures!).
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PostSubject: Re: Show us yours (mid-August)--non-mammal Synapsids!   Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:21 pm

Great mid topic cheers
And great models from Sbell, Roger and Susanne .. Applause

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PostSubject: Re: Show us yours (mid-August)--non-mammal Synapsids!   Tue Aug 18, 2015 6:47 pm

A Hapdotus longicaudatus as figurine would be great for my collection at work :)

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PostSubject: Re: Show us yours (mid-August)--non-mammal Synapsids!   Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:27 pm

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A Hapdotus longicaudatus as figurine would be great for my collection at work :)

I think the closest that exists so far is the Varanops from shapeways. Assuming it is still there...
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PostSubject: Re: Show us yours (mid-August)--non-mammal Synapsids!   Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:49 am

Great SUY and impressive collection Sean, I hope we will see more topics like that in the future Very Happy

Here is my small contribution, with nothing new to show I'm afraid... Wink

The Pelycosaurs: Dimetrodons and edaphosaurus

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I'm sorry I have no time to make new pics or family portrait Embarassed

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PostSubject: Re: Show us yours (mid-August)--non-mammal Synapsids!   Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:55 am

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A Hapdotus longicaudatus as figurine would be great for my collection at work :)

I think the closest that exists so far is the Varanops from shapeways. Assuming it is still there...

Thank you :) andthe member of shapeways isnt not so active here in this moment Sad

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PostSubject: Re: Show us yours (mid-August)--non-mammal Synapsids!   Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:11 am

Great critters, Christophe cheers
Your collection is truely stunning !

Please, if you can find time, it would be nice to see the brand and species for each Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Show us yours (mid-August)--non-mammal Synapsids!   Wed Aug 19, 2015 2:35 pm

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Yeah, I kind of overwhelmed in the first post....

But the Bullyland ones are among the best. When Bully was at it's peak, they were the best source for the more unusual species, especially from the Triassic.

Is there an ancient archosaurs thread? There would be several Bullys in that too!

No, as Susanne commented, prehistoric mammals was the first SUY dedicated to prehistoric creatures and now this is the 2nd. I agree with Susanne, maybe we can open again a special middle month thread, and ancient archosaurs seems a very good suggestion once I love them either. Very Happy Middle October, perhaps, forum is more active in the last quarter of the year. scratch

It's probably busiest then because that's when the companies start trickling out information for the next year, plus people need to start gift lists for the winter season.

Laughing That's surely the main reason but surely there are some others. :)

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PostSubject: Re: Show us yours (mid-August)--non-mammal Synapsids!   Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:58 pm

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Great SUY and impressive collection Sean, I hope we will see more topics like that in the future Very Happy

Here is my small contribution, with nothing new to show I'm afraid... Wink


Christophe, almost missed your precious contribution with several wonderful figures! What is more impressive is the quality of your choices! cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Show us yours (mid-August)--non-mammal Synapsids!   Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:04 pm

A bit late to the party:
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PostSubject: Re: Show us yours (mid-August)--non-mammal Synapsids!   Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:46 pm

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I only just got it too! I just forgot that there was a place for it!
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PostSubject: Re: Show us yours (mid-August)--non-mammal Synapsids!   Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:13 am

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Great critters, Christophe cheers
Your collection is truely stunning !

Please, if you can find time, it would be nice to see the brand and species for each Wink

Job is done... At last Laughing

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A bit late to the party:
The new Dimetrodon from Kaiyodo, part of the Great Leaps in Evolution exhibition set. I think that's the only one I have that SBell didn't already post.
I only just got it too! I just forgot that there was a place for it!

Very nice one. Which size? A walkaround maybe? Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Show us yours (mid-August)--non-mammal Synapsids!   Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:25 am

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Great critters, Christophe cheers
Your collection is truely stunning !

Please, if you can find time, it would be nice to see the brand and species for each Wink

Job is done... At last  Laughing

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A bit late to the party:
The new Dimetrodon from Kaiyodo, part of the Great Leaps in Evolution exhibition set. I think that's the only one I have that SBell didn't already post.
I only just got it too! I just forgot that there was a place for it!

Very nice one. Which size? A walkaround maybe? Very Happy

It's Dinotales size, they've just changed how they do them.

I could try if someone else doesn't, but I'm not going to be around for the next while.

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PostSubject: Re: Show us yours (mid-August)--non-mammal Synapsids!   Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:38 am

They've just changed how they do them? What do you mean?

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