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PostSubject: My drawings of fav actors   Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:09 pm

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At home, I do a lot of drawing. What do I draw, exactly? Most of the time, I draw men I like from TV. Here are a few drawings I made of actor Jack Elam.


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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:19 pm

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And here are a few drawings I made of Charles Bronson.


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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:24 pm

Wonderful drawings of two very ugly men cheers

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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:49 pm

lol! A villain and a man of few words! I thought I remember them from classic Westerns, my Father in law was addicted in this kind of movies and I often remember remotely the bad guys! :) I never enjoyed Westerns to be honest. Very Happy
Though, these two have a very charismatic looking and you performed a fabulous work with your renditions!
Those are also great tributes once, according with Wikipedia, they're already gone. Sad

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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:05 am

Beautiful artwork! Your skills are outstanding!

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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:01 am

Beautiful artwork Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:25 pm

Seeing Bronson on the last photo ..... Argh... I instant got the tune from the mondharmonica in my head..., well drawn!
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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:10 pm

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And here is Robert Ryan. Suzanne, you said they were "two ugle men"...do you mean by that that I have no taste? silent I always thought of them of being magnificient...


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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:30 pm

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Seriously, Suzanne? You think Jack Elam is ugly? silent


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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:43 pm

Fantastic the way you work with light, details, expression, etc.
You and Susanne are remembering my school time when two girls had completely oposite opinions about the same boy. Laughing Wink

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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:21 pm

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Fantastic the way you work with light, details, expression, etc.
You and Susanne are remembering my school time when two girls had completely oposite opinions about the same boy. Laughing Wink

Thank you for your compliment. I hope suzanne doesn't think Robert Ryan is ugly... Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:14 pm

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What does Suzanne think of Jeremy Brett?


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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:35 pm

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And about Burt Lancaster?


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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:18 pm

I like the elephants and the feline :)

But can you please stop thinking about what Susanne things of the guys in real life?
(No offense, but it is getting weird...)

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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:59 pm

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I like the elephants and the feline :)

But can you please stop thinking about what Susanne things of the guys in real life?
(No offense, but it is getting weird...)

I was not serious!Only, I felt kind of sad to think I was the only one to like them. affraid Anyway, the feline you see in the last drawing is a clouded leopard.
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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:26 am

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I like the elephants and the feline :)

But can you please stop thinking about what Susanne things of the guys in real life?
(No offense, but it is getting weird...)

I was not serious!Only, I felt kind of sad to think I was the only one to like them. affraid Anyway, the feline you see in the last drawing is a clouded leopard.

You're not serious again, what about the Bon Jovi story? tongue Wink
Burt Lancasterwas a great lloking guy in the most common sense. But, what is relevant here is your talent. Very Happy
A big clouded leopard, you must get the Mojö one and use your brushes to repaint it. Very Happy elephant

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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:59 pm

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I like the elephants and the feline :)

But can you please stop thinking about what Susanne things of the guys in real life?
(No offense, but it is getting weird...)

I was not serious!Only, I felt kind of sad to think I was the only one to like them. affraid Anyway, the feline you see in the last drawing is a clouded leopard.

You're not serious again, what about the Bon Jovi story? tongue Wink
Burt Lancasterwas a great lloking guy in the most common sense. But, what is relevant here is your talent. Very Happy
A big clouded leopard, you must get the Mojö one and use your brushes to repaint it. Very Happy elephant

You are absolutely right about the Bon Jovi story. Even though Iwas not serious towards Suzanne, the jokes we make always have a link with what we really think: I often have the feeling that people around me think I have no taste, and it ends in me doubting about myself. Medias say Jack Elam was ugly, while I find him magnificient(at least, in his youth), as an example. As for the clouded leopard, I made it too big? I did not know. However, since these are drawings made with color pencils on paper and not paintings, I cannot redo it.
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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Mon Apr 11, 2016 1:31 am

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You are absolutely right about the Bon Jovi story. Even though Iwas not serious towards Suzanne, the jokes we make always have a link with what we really think: I often have the feeling that people around me think I have no taste, and it ends in me doubting about myself. Medias say Jack Elam was ugly, while I find him magnificient(at least, in his youth), as an example. As for the clouded leopard, I made it too big? I did not know. However, since these are drawings made with color pencils on paper and not paintings, I cannot redo it.

I think you shouldn't worry too much with what others think about your taste as you firmely defended in your Bon Jovi post. If you think that others taste doesn't match exactly with yours, it means exactly that you have your own taste and it is not just a copy from others tastes that tend to converge for social convenience. I have my own taste, Susanne has her own taste, you have your own taste, it is how things should work and we all learn how to live confortably with our personal preferences... though, that's a very complex question to discuss here. in all languages we say that tastes shouldn't be discussed, so what more to say?
About your clouded leopard, I never intended to make you change something that is so beautiful and correctly done. It is on foreground and naturally the perspective make it look bigger than it is. So you managed it correctly. It is a fact that a clouded leopard is 50 to 55 cm tall at shoulders and this is a 1,88 m man, though, everything looks in good harmony to me. Please be confident of your talent, it is indisputable. :)

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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:28 pm

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Thank you for your encouragement. I am still learning to feel good about myself, actually. Since I suffered a lot of bullying in my youth, it is not always easy to heal from it. Anyway, I made more drawings that included both men and animals. From top to bottom: Gleen Tipton (Judas Priest) with a Harpy Eagle, Larry Mullen jr (U2) with a Barn Owl and Burt Lancaster with a Jaguar.


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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:05 pm

I really like the combo of both men and animals in your drawings.
It gives them some power I can't really describe.

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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:45 pm

I also like the concept and now men from known bands too. Giraffe, jag, owl, harpie, all beautiful! No women? Wink

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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:44 pm

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I also like the concept and now men from known bands too. Giraffe, jag, owl, harpie, all beautiful! No women? Wink
Nope! Just men. And not any man: just the most attractive ones. I love you

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And here we have Jack Elam with an european Genet and KK Downing (Judas Priest) with a vulture.


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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:08 am

OK, no women but very nice animals, sky full of raptors and stars, lots of stars... I enjoy to watch through the windows too. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:40 am

Interesting works you show and interesting subjects you talk about here. You seem to be very passionate artist Valerie, you created a lot of works with individual style and vision. Do you frame some of them or they always stay in your drawing book? Smile

If my teachers or professors of history of art would show me these work and ask for interpretation that would be a very interesting task. I would say some of them are fitting into "Surrealism", especially the green picture with Jack Elam with a European Genet, the use of colours and the mystical lighting and the crazy eyes of this animal, it all looks like a surrealistic vision. Actually, excuse me the strange idea but seeing this guy smoking and being in the dreamy surrounding makes  me think he might be smoking weed  Razz . I like the colours in this one, they are fitting the scene well.

I see also very expressive faces of men and very dynamic contrasts of colours, especially the chromatic contrast between green and red. And these features remind me works of German artists from the times of WWII from the movement called New Objectivity, for example, works of Otto Dix ( [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  ).
I'm not saying you were inspired by these artists but there are some similarities in the atmosphere, colour choices, facial expressions. The atmosphere in some of those work I perceive as the feeling of restlessness, anxiety, maybe agitation or maybe some kind of sorrow.
However in some other of your paintings, I see quite happy feelings and a dreamy surrealism Very Happy
In some way, the faces of men from your works are also similar to people from the drawings of a brilliant artist - Egon Schiele (   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egon_Schiele  )
Again, I'm not saying that I think that was the inspiration source for you, of course, just maybe there are some similarities in your vision of art and theirs. Smile

Another subject you were talking about here was handsomeness or attractiveness of some actors. And here we can only say that taste should not be a matter of discussion and please don't worry if other people don't share your view on attractivity of some actors or musicians Smile
However, knowing our Susanne and the ocean of kindness in her heart I'm absolutely sure she didn't want to say anything wrong and the word "ugly" was used to describe the unusual faces as they might have been perceived and shown in the movies in the pop cultural understanding of "ugliness". As we can read in Wikipedia some of these actors played mainly the roles of villains. It is probable that if we told them "hey, I think you have an ugly face" the answer could be "well, that's the main reason I have my work in the movies industry". That's a possible scenario, what do you think?  There is also a difference between pop cultural understanding of ugliness and the real aversion to someone's look. In a pop culture strongly asymmetrical and unusual faces are often considered ugly but of course not all people will perceive them as ugly. And actually, a lot (and I mean a LOT) of people like to see very unusual faces on the screen and not necessary in a role of villains. We can also say that someone is wonderfully ugly, and that may mean that someone's look, despite being far away from classical beauty, is wonderful and intriguing.

To be honest one of my favourite actors is Klaus Kinski, especially when he played Nosferatu, Fitzcarraldo and Woyzeck. I'm not saying I find him particularly handsome (not classically beautiful) but I think he was an excellent actor, he could play as expressively as no one else and thanks to his unusual face and talent he was unmistakable. Smile I see he also is present in your drawings, and with a vulture, that's an interesting choice.  

My favourites of your works are the green one with European genet and Mr Elam and the one with a Barn Owl and Larry Mullen.

Thank you for showing us your paintings. I think you have created unique series of pictures. Please, don't doubt yourself, you can be proud of what you are doing! cheers Being unique is a reason to be proud not to be sad. Can you imagine the world in which all people are the same and have uniformed tastes and opinions?! pale affraid

And, by the way, it reminded me about one story, maybe you will find it funny. Some time ago (6 months ago?) the riding club owner where I regularly ride bought a new horse - a Brabant Draft mare ( [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] ) . I was so delighted and excited when I saw her. Her name is Judith. It also came out that she has absolutely sweet character Very Happy So, I started to talk about this horse with my instructor and his wife and I told them I find this horse absolutely amazing and beautiful. They started to laugh and they told me: yes Judith is sweet and cute but she surely is not fitting into the category "beautiful". I said: "well, for me she's beautiful" and I smiled. Soon after that I sculpted Brabant Draft horse, Judith was an inspiration for me. And now the Brabant draft (Cumulonimbus) is one of my most popular works and so I think many people also see the beauty in the horses similar to Judith. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:13 pm

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Interesting works you show and interesting subjects you talk about here. You seem to be very passionate artist Valerie, you created a lot of works with individual style and vision. Do you frame some of them or they always stay in your drawing book? Smile

If my teachers or professors of history of art would show me these work and ask for interpretation that would be a very interesting task. I would say some of them are fitting into "Surrealism", especially the green picture with Jack Elam with a European Genet, the use of colours and the mystical lighting and the crazy eyes of this animal, it all looks like a surrealistic vision. Actually, excuse me the strange idea but seeing this guy smoking and being in the dreamy surrounding makes  me think he might be smoking weed  Razz . I like the colours in this one, they are fitting the scene well.

I see also very expressive faces of men and very dynamic contrasts of colours, especially the chromatic contrast between green and red. And these features remind me works of German artists from the times of WWII from the movement called New Objectivity, for example, works of Otto Dix ( [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  ).
I'm not saying you were inspired by these artists but there are some similarities in the atmosphere, colour choices, facial expressions. The atmosphere in some of those work I perceive as the feeling of restlessness, anxiety, maybe agitation or maybe some kind of sorrow.
However in some other of your paintings, I see quite happy feelings and a dreamy surrealism Very Happy
In some way, the faces of men from your works are also similar to people from the drawings of a brilliant artist - Egon Schiele (   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egon_Schiele  )
Again, I'm not saying that I think that was the inspiration source for you, of course, just maybe there are some similarities in your vision of art and theirs. Smile

Another subject you were talking about here was handsomeness or attractiveness of some actors. And here we can only say that taste should not be a matter of discussion and please don't worry if other people don't share your view on attractivity of some actors or musicians Smile
However, knowing our Susanne and the ocean of kindness in her heart I'm absolutely sure she didn't want to say anything wrong and the word "ugly" was used to describe the unusual faces as they might have been perceived and shown in the movies in the pop cultural understanding of "ugliness". As we can read in Wikipedia some of these actors played mainly the roles of villains. It is probable that if we told them "hey, I think you have an ugly face" the answer could be "well, that's the main reason I have my work in the movies industry". That's a possible scenario, what do you think?  There is also a difference between pop cultural understanding of ugliness and the real aversion to someone's look. In a pop culture strongly asymmetrical and unusual faces are often considered ugly but of course not all people will perceive them as ugly. And actually, a lot (and I mean a LOT) of people like to see very unusual faces on the screen and not necessary in a role of villains. We can also say that someone is wonderfully ugly, and that may mean that someone's look, despite being far away from classical beauty, is wonderful and intriguing.

To be honest one of my favourite actors is Klaus Kinski, especially when he played Nosferatu, Fitzcarraldo and Woyzeck. I'm not saying I find him particularly handsome (not classically beautiful) but I think he was an excellent actor, he could play as expressively as no one else and thanks to his unusual face and talent he was unmistakable. Smile I see he also is present in your drawings, and with a vulture, that's an interesting choice.  

My favourites of your works are the green one with European genet and Mr Elam and the one with a Barn Owl and Larry Mullen.

Thank you for showing us your paintings. I think you have created unique series of pictures. Please, don't doubt yourself, you can be proud of what you are doing! cheers Being unique is a reason to be proud not to be sad. Can you imagine the world in which all people are the same and have uniformed tastes and opinions?! pale affraid

And, by the way, it reminded me about one story, maybe you will find it funny. Some time ago (6 months ago?) the riding club owner where I regularly ride bought a new horse - a Brabant Draft mare ( [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] ) . I was so delighted and excited when I saw her. Her name is Judith. It also came out that she has absolutely sweet character Very Happy So, I started to talk about this horse with my instructor and his wife and I told them I find this horse absolutely amazing and beautiful. They started to laugh and they told me: yes Judith is sweet and cute but she surely is not fitting into the category "beautiful". I said: "well, for me she's beautiful" and I smiled. Soon after that I sculpted Brabant Draft horse, Judith was an inspiration for me. And now the Brabant draft (Cumulonimbus) is one of my most popular works and so I think many people also see the beauty in the horses similar to Judith. Very Happy

Wow! Lots of comments, here. By the way, the man with a vulture is NOT Klaus Kinsky, but Judas Priest guitarist KK DOWNING. He left the band not so long ago.
Also, those pictures are NOT paintings, THEY ARE DRAWINGS. They are made with wood color pencils. Only the white stars are made with Lioquid Paper.
And, no, I would never get inspired by Egon Schiele, because I find his works wayyyy too agressive for me.
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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:14 pm

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Here are Larry Mullen jr (U2) with Rock Doves, Alec John Such (ex-Bon Jovi) with a unicorn and Alec John Such (again) with a chinese dragon.


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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:33 pm

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Wow! Lots of comments, here. By the way, the man with a vulture is NOT Klaus Kinsky, but Judas Priest guitarist KK DOWNING. He left the band not so long ago.
Also, those pictures are NOT paintings, THEY ARE DRAWINGS. They are made with wood color pencils. Only the white stars are made with Lioquid Paper.
And, no, I would never get inspired by Egon Schiele, because I find his works wayyyy too agressive for me.

Excuse me my mistakes Smile
I hope you didn't find my comment aggressive, I like talking about art, that's all. Sometimes my comments are too long because I continue too many digressions. It was supposed to be friendly Smile

Beautiful colours on the Chinese dragon, by the way. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:09 am

Loved to read your comment Anna, when talking about Art you give a new dimension to the subject. As a distant watcher, I find your comment quite eulogistic and kind as always and surely Valerie is not extracting a different purport to it. Though, I am nobody to embody Valerie. flower
I really love these draws, they are beautiful and they tell a lot about the conceptor, I guess. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Sat Apr 16, 2016 4:07 pm

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Wow! Lots of comments, here. By the way, the man with a vulture is NOT Klaus Kinsky, but Judas Priest guitarist KK DOWNING. He left the band not so long ago.
Also, those pictures are NOT paintings, THEY ARE DRAWINGS. They are made with wood color pencils. Only the white stars are made with Lioquid Paper.
And, no, I would never get inspired by Egon Schiele, because I find his works wayyyy too agressive for me.

Excuse me my mistakes Smile
I hope you didn't find my comment aggressive, I like talking about art, that's all. Sometimes my comments are too long because I continue too many digressions. It was supposed to be friendly Smile

Beautiful colours on the Chinese dragon, by the way. Very Happy

Not at all! Just like Roger, I loved reading your comments. I can see you studied art just like I did. You obviously took the time to look carefully at my work and that pleases me a lot, actually. Very Happy Smile Smile Smile
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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:34 pm

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Wow! Lots of comments, here. By the way, the man with a vulture is NOT Klaus Kinsky, but Judas Priest guitarist KK DOWNING. He left the band not so long ago.
Also, those pictures are NOT paintings, THEY ARE DRAWINGS. They are made with wood color pencils. Only the white stars are made with Lioquid Paper.
And, no, I would never get inspired by Egon Schiele, because I find his works wayyyy too agressive for me.

Excuse me my mistakes Smile
I hope you didn't find my comment aggressive, I like talking about art, that's all. Sometimes my comments are too long because I continue too many digressions. It was supposed to be friendly Smile

Beautiful colours on the Chinese dragon, by the way. Very Happy

Not at all! Just like Roger, I loved reading your comments. I can see you studied art just like I did. You obviously took the time to look carefully at my work and that pleases me a lot, actually. Very Happy Smile Smile Smile

cheers cheers cheers Very Happy
Yes, I studied art. Great to hear that you too! Very Happy cheers

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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:31 pm

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I sometimes also draw too men together. Here are combos of Matthias Jabs (Scorpions) and Larry Mullen jr (U2).


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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:54 am

Nobody from Seattle? Thanks again for sharing! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:48 pm

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Nobody from Seattle?  Thanks again for sharing! Very Happy

Who's from Seatle?
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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:09 pm

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Who's from Seatle?

I was referring to some bands that entered my musical taste at the end of 80's and first half of 90's. You can read [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] although I believe it has no interest for you at all.

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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:38 pm

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Nobody from Seattle?  Thanks again for sharing! Very Happy

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I was referring to some bands that entered my musical taste at the end of 80's and first half of 90's. You can read [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] although I believe it has no interest for you at all.
Nirvana? No, not exactly. I remember having enjoyed the tune "Smells Like Teen Spirit" back in Fall 1991, but that was it...

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Anyway, here is one of my drawings of Eddie Constantine.


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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:19 pm

Smells Like Teen Spirits is a very addictive... smell! Laughing Actually, it was the song I was more addicted of ever. Wink Eddie has an interesting fact, sorry for being egocentric, he was born in the same day as I did but a lot of years before. Interesting that he died in Wiesbaden, a city also related with a very good friend of this forum. Your work is again wonderful, very nice atmosphere too. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:46 pm

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Smells Like Teen Spirits is a very addictive... smell! Laughing Actually, it was the song I was more addicted of ever. Wink Eddie has an interesting fact, sorry for being egocentric, he was born in the same day as I did but a lot of years before. Interesting that he died in Wiesbaden, a city also related with a very good friend of this forum. Your work is again wonderful, very nice atmosphere too. Very Happy

Oh! Gosh! Now I understand why I'm so eager to see you put my pictures on TAI... affraid
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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:45 pm

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Anyway, here are two drawings I made of Roy Scheider. Remember him? He was policeman Martin Brody in "Jaws"...


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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:17 pm

Very beautiful again, Valérie! The way you play with light and shadows is sublime. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:46 pm

Your drawings have a very striking style, I love your use of colour!

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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:58 pm

Thank you for your compliments!
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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:46 pm

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Who among you knows Ralph Meeker? He was mostly known for playing the role of Mike Hammer in 1955's film noir "Kiss Me Deadly".
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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:55 pm

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And who among you knows Dolph Lundgren? He played Drago in Rocky IV. Today, he plays in "The Expendables".
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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:34 pm

I do remember the Big Russian! Very Happy Well, I needed some help to remember it once I think he was quite younger then. That's a guy with an imposing appearance and you tributed him with your special talent.

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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:26 pm

I like the neon pink light effect on the two pictures above, very nice touch! Smile

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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:26 pm

Roger: Dolph Lundgren is actually 1,96 meter tall, which makes him taller than Rock Hudson and Robert Ryan by 3 cm. Very imposing indeed!

Ana: Do you mean the drawings I made of Ralph Meeker?
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PostSubject: Re: My drawings of fav actors   Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:55 pm

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Ana: Do you mean the drawings I made of Ralph Meeker?

Yes, I meant the drawings of Ralph Meeker Smile

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