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PostSubject: Schleich African Watering Hole - best to scale animal suggestions   Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:31 am

My dream is to buy the schleich watering hole/waterfall etc... and populate it with animals that are in scale with each other.

How would people go about doing this and what suggestions do you have for the nicest models that would go together in scale with the watering hole?
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PostSubject: Re: Schleich African Watering Hole - best to scale animal suggestions   Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:28 pm

Hi, Thomas, and wellcome here Very Happy

That is a very interesting question ! scratch
From what I have seen, the Schleich animals are really too large for the watering hole, - but then they are not in scale with each other.
The same goes for the other common, modern brands too.
I could imagine that the old Britains models would look great wit it, but as I do not have the WH, I can't be sure...perhaps somebody else has tried ? Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich African Watering Hole - best to scale animal suggestions   Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:08 pm

Welcome from Portugal, Thomas! Very Happy
I think honestly it is a good idea but without it I can't help too much. Giving some sequence to Susanne's comment, I believe a set like that needed to be much bigger to fit with Schleich figures and there's also the problem, Susanne also mentioned, that Schleich figures are also not all at scale. Britains seems to be a good suggestion indeed and they are at an exact scale. You can also try [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] that are larger than Britains but generally smaller than Schleich and they also work nicely at 1:24 scale. In alternative, you can calculate yourself a scale, try to see which figure you think works nicely with the watering hole and tell us and we try to check which figures work nicely together wit that of your choice. Idea

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich African Watering Hole - best to scale animal suggestions   Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:46 am

Many thanks for your replies.

Noah's Pals might be a good possibility as I've always wanted a Noah's Ark so I could use the figures with that as well. I do not have any Britains so this would depend on the availability of African figures on ebay. I have heard Britains are often very accurate and lovely though so it is definitely something I will consider if it is likely to be possible to collect them without being more expensive than modern brands.

My main collection is AAA which is far too big but I have a few of other brands and would be buy from any brand to achiee the animals in scale on the watering hole.

The two joys of my collection at the moment are the Papo lioness [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and the CollectA giraffe [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
so perhaps either of those could be a starting point for a scale? This will be m first time attempting to collect in scale. I am not sure how to work out scale myself as it doesn't say on the amazon product descriptions.
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PostSubject: Re: Schleich African Watering Hole - best to scale animal suggestions   Fri Sep 30, 2016 1:51 am

Hi and welcome here! Very Happy
So it's an dificult thing to talk about the scale in animal figures, because a lot are not in a scale with eachother.
So you have two wonderful models but they are made in some special scales, I think the giraffe should be in the 1:35, a common scale for bigger animals, like elephants and giraffes, even some sea life figures and dinosaurs are in that scale, but it will be dificult to find smaller animal species.
The lioness is in a 1:16 scale, so a big scale, used by Papos lions and tigers. The normal scale for normal hofstock animals is around 1:20.
It's not a big thing to work out the scale, you take the shoulder height or the body length (generaly from the tip of the nose to the beginning of the tail) of a real animal, and divide it with the length or height of your figure, so you'll work out the scale. It's a little complicated to explain, but if you still have some questions I'll try to response you. :)

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich African Watering Hole - best to scale animal suggestions   Fri Sep 30, 2016 2:45 am

Your two choices are two of my all time favorite figures. Surely my favorite lioness and giraffe. Very Happy Though, here starts the problem. If you want to use them really as they should compare in real, they don't work together. Giraffe is too small for that lioness or lioness is too big to that giraffe. Bryan's comment is very relevant and here starts the confusion. Laughing I think CollectA giraffe works nicely as a 1:24 figure once it is a female and that scale works decently for a 4 metters tall female reticulated giraffe that is already a very generous size. If my calculation is correct, you can use CollectA giraffe with Noah's Pals loness, though, the latter is a very toyish looking figure when compared with the superb Papo. If you repaint figures and if you conclude Britains are a good size. You can try to find cheap Britains in poor condition and repaint them. Their original painting is never good anyway though, those should be preserved.
If you want to use your Papo lioness, you'll a 25 cm tall giraffe figure to represent a 4 metters female in scale with your lioness. I believe the Wildlife Wonders giraffe of Safari works nicely with the Papo lioness, however, it will dwarf your watering hole. Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Schleich African Watering Hole - best to scale animal suggestions   Sun Oct 02, 2016 2:20 am

Thank you again for all this very useful information.

I have yesterday and today been researching and I find Noah's Pals have stopped production and with me being in UK they are very expensive so I have looked at Britains and they are in abundance on ebay as joblots, so I think I will go with Britains. I have not repainted anything before but once I have them I can maybe learn to do this - I do not mind if it takes me a long time as then the fun spreads over years :)

I think I will also continue to find my favourite models of every animal as well and try them at the waterhole too, but that diorama won't be in scale. So many projects :)

Now I just need to decide what specific animals to look for.

While I was looking to find out what animals to have at my waterhole I came across two links that people on here may like:

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] this has lots of African animals with nice photos of them

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] This is the oldest waterhole live cam. I have already seen a herd of elephants come to this watering hole!
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PostSubject: Re: Schleich African Watering Hole - best to scale animal suggestions   Sun Oct 02, 2016 8:00 am

This is a useful thread on scale. i'll just put it here so I don't lose it [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
and info on 1:32 scale birds [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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PostSubject: Re: Schleich African Watering Hole - best to scale animal suggestions   Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:47 pm

It is good that you're using our topics as your project reference. First be sure Britains are not too small for you. Their elephants are almost the same size of a Papo elephant but, for example, the baboon, is much but really much smaller than baboons from major companies. If you find a giraffe with good painting, you can send it to me that I have an almost albino one for you to be repainted. Laughing Britains sculpts are very serious and very well done and you may be able of finding other animals, not present in Britains range, but that work correctly in scale with your Britains once 1:32 was used for several vintage companies. I think it is also a good idea that you start a project with non scale models that you like so you can add to your collection some wonderful figures to join to your lioness and giraffe. CollectA is particularly generous in terms of African fauna with several antelopes, grevy's zebra, red river hog, etc. :)

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