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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 49 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 34993
| Subject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich Fri 1 Apr 2011 - 0:23 | |
| I agree with you about farm animals, usually horses and dogs have their own series but are farm animals, and in this point Schleich is really interesting! But Gab only collects Wild life and my comments are thinking in it! ...and for example, Safari is probabily the best in prehistoric figures but Bullyland have in my opinion the most interesting range!! But for dino lovers Procon have almost everything, why only think in one range, I do my own range, where can I find a baluchitherium, only in CollectA, and a deinotherium, only in Bullyland (me, nowhere) and a smilodon??? In all brands, so I choose my favourite without thinking in brands!:) |
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Gabe
Country/State : NY Age : 40 Joined : 2010-06-20 Posts : 1180
| Subject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich Fri 1 Apr 2011 - 0:56 | |
| Thanks again dear friends! Your comments helped me a lot! _________________ Born to be Wild and Free!
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Kikimalou Admin
Country/State : Lille, FRANCE Age : 59 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 20125
| Subject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich Fri 1 Apr 2011 - 6:24 | |
| So... If I have to choose between Papo and Schleich Maybe I will choose LINEOL The great thing in a collector life is you can collect what your wallet allow you to do... And this is already a cruel rule ! I think the right answer now is to look at Harriet's new cabinet : isn't it nice ? |
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SUSANNE Admin
Country/State : Denmark, the peninsula of Djursland. Age : 71 Joined : 2010-09-30 Posts : 37808
| Subject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich Fri 1 Apr 2011 - 8:40 | |
| Great tread, Gabe. I have collected Schleich for perhaps 10 years, for the only reason that they were the only ones I knew about (And Reisler, of course, but that is another story as I started 53 years ago) But with this forum the great world of model figueres has opened. Papo is fabulous ! So are many, many others, - your string is good, because at some time it is neccesary to stop and think, - what am I really collecting? Or else move to a larger house |
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baltimore zoo
Joined : 2010-06-30 Posts : 1650
| Subject: Baltimore zoo Fri 1 Apr 2011 - 11:10 | |
| PAPO, for sure! I think they are more realistic, and more artistic! They have a more refined look! I have said this all before! I just wish they would stick to a scale(using their big cats, making other animals comparable to their scale, since all the Papo big cats, for the most part look fine together). I also like some of Safari LTD's figures, which I also collect! To me, Schleich, is more for kids, just not as realistic looking. Their figures have a bulkier look. I think their 2 best wild animal figures are their male orang and their grazing zebra(which I have, because I thought they look good)!
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SUSANNE Admin
Country/State : Denmark, the peninsula of Djursland. Age : 71 Joined : 2010-09-30 Posts : 37808
| Subject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich Fri 1 Apr 2011 - 11:39 | |
| - baltimore zoo wrote:
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To me, Schleich, is more for kids, just not as realistic looking. Their figures have a bulkier look.
This reminds me of the good old discussion : Is Picasso rubbish ? That lady has got an eye in her forehead To me it is a question of a figuere having charm, -having found some of the spirit of the animal, not neccesarily to be exactly a miniature-copy of the animal. I love the old Schleich much more than the new ones, - the new horses ...hmmm, I buy them but never ever put them on a shelf. I just adore most of the old Bullys, they are so naive. The Papo-figueres are fabulous, but not only because they rook "real", - many of them are really small sculptures. Take the black African bull. Or the polar bear. Or the mandrill (THE, Mandrill ) and others. How wonderful we have different opinions |
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ken yeo
Country/State : Singapore Age : 54 Joined : 2010-04-05 Posts : 5428
| Subject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich Fri 1 Apr 2011 - 12:24 | |
| What a interesting topic? Initially I tried to concentrate only Schleich & Papo and end up collect almost any brands. For now as long it appeal to me and up to my liking I will buy it. Nowadays become more picky and selective.
Currently My choice: 1. Schleich 2. Papo 3. Safari Ltd 4. Collecta 5. Bullyland 6. Mojofun - up coming
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remrock02
Age : 64 Joined : 2010-04-07 Posts : 388
| Subject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich Fri 1 Apr 2011 - 13:26 | |
| I buy whatever I like the most!!!!! It would be too hard to stick to just one brand! Schleich, Papo and Safari are easy for me to get locally, the rest take alot more effort. |
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baltimore zoo
Joined : 2010-06-30 Posts : 1650
| Subject: Baltimore zoo Fri 1 Apr 2011 - 20:51 | |
| My other real problem(besides keeping them all on one scale) is that there IS SO MUCH COPYCATTING! It's fine for each company to make the same animal, but make it in a TOTALLY different position! They're so transparent in their approach! |
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SUSANNE Admin
Country/State : Denmark, the peninsula of Djursland. Age : 71 Joined : 2010-09-30 Posts : 37808
| Subject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich Fri 1 Apr 2011 - 22:38 | |
| - baltimore zoo wrote:
- My other real problem(besides keeping them all on one scale) is that there IS SO MUCH COPYCATTING!
It's fine for each company to make the same animal, but make it in a TOTALLY different position! They're so transparent in their approach! Hear, hear ! |
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baltimore zoo
Joined : 2010-06-30 Posts : 1650
| Subject: Baltimore zoo Sat 2 Apr 2011 - 6:20 | |
| I WILL NEVER BE HAPPY WITH MY ANIMAL FIGURE COLLECTING UNTIL, ALL THESE COMPANIES, MAKE THEIR LINE TO SCALE AND IN DIFFERENT POSTIONS! For instance, Safari LTD made their 2011' Lion bigger than their Indian rhino, WHY? What's their reasoning? For example, the Papo Hippo(mouth open), is a very nice size, but why couldn't they have done the same with their elephants? And I don't want to hear, well they don't want to make too small a figure, because it's not safe for children, then why does Schleich make a baby chimp and orang, just barely over an inch big? Hey, I'm calling these companies out! I'm sick and tired of their inadequacies!
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Gabe
Country/State : NY Age : 40 Joined : 2010-06-20 Posts : 1180
| Subject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich Sun 3 Apr 2011 - 3:22 | |
| baltimore zoo: They make lions bigger than rhinos because people admire them more... _________________ Born to be Wild and Free!
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baltimore zoo
Joined : 2010-06-30 Posts : 1650
| Subject: Baltimore zoo Sun 3 Apr 2011 - 4:41 | |
| Gabe, I "admire" lions more than rhinos, but I also really love rhinos! I don't think that's their reasoning as to why they made the lion much larger than their rhinos. So you telling me, they made the capybara bigger because people adore them more? Get real, brother! |
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Kikimalou Admin
Country/State : Lille, FRANCE Age : 59 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 20125
| Subject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich Sun 3 Apr 2011 - 6:34 | |
| - baltimore zoo wrote:
- Gabe, I "admire" lions more than rhinos, but I also really love rhinos!
I don't think that's their reasoning as to why they made the lion much larger than their rhinos. So you telling me, they made the capybara bigger because people adore them more? Get real, brother! Balti, THEY don't made any capybara... Only SAFARI Ltd did. Maybe their problem is indeed a popularity rating one. Making lions and rhinos at the same scale means : Making bigger rhinos, more expensive, and sell less. Or making smaller lions, less expensive, and earn less money. Nevertheless, you are right, a collection at the same scale would be fantastic... But I think you will not see it in 2011 |
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baltimore zoo
Joined : 2010-06-30 Posts : 1650
| Subject: Baltimore zoo Sun 3 Apr 2011 - 8:25 | |
| K, Yes, I know only Safari ltd did, because that's which lion/rhino combo we were talking about in this case (*Papo didn't make an Indian rhino).
*What I said: (For instance, Safari LTD made their 2011' Lion bigger than their Indian rhino, WHY? What's their reasoning?) |
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incha
Country/State : Spain Age : 47 Joined : 2011-03-08 Posts : 50
| Subject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich Sun 3 Apr 2011 - 10:11 | |
| I think you are forgetting that all model animals are toys, and brands make it thinking in children. Hello all, I'm going to presenting in correct place |
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MartinH
Country/State : Czech Republic Age : 42 Joined : 2010-08-24 Posts : 3144
| Subject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich Sun 3 Apr 2011 - 10:43 | |
| Well hard question... Papo or Schleich... For me (for example) it is Papo for big cats, Schleich for horses, Safari for WW animals... it´s har to choose. All of them have their best animals and all brands are special for somethinh. That´s why i love collecting from all of them... But... to answer you question Gabe... my heart is more with Papo :) _________________ My webside / my collection / my youtube channel / my facebook / my instagram / my twitter [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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baltimore zoo
Joined : 2010-06-30 Posts : 1650
| Subject: Baltimore zoo Sun 3 Apr 2011 - 11:01 | |
| Well incha, then if it's toys just for children, then there might as well not be a Schleichtiersammler forum.... Hasbro makes Star Wars figures. They gear their product to ages over 3 and up(on each figure package they have a warning(choking hazard) because of small parts, not for children under 3). They realize(in other words SMART) they have a lot of adult collectors. I collected Star Wars figures back in the day, and now with their new figure line, I collect the new ones(for me only figures from the original movies). Just like animal figure collectors who collected Lineol, Britains etc. now collect the new animal figures of Papo, Safari, etc.. So these animal figure companies should use that philosophy, since I'm sure they read this forum, and realize that there are a lot of serious collectors, so if they were smart they would use the Hasbro philosophy! Look if they made one gnu in a walking position, I know collectors would probably buy 20 to make a herd(New 2011 Stormtrooper figure, I'll be buying at least 10), not many kids would do that. So it's their loss in my opinion.
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incha
Country/State : Spain Age : 47 Joined : 2011-03-08 Posts : 50
| Subject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich Sun 3 Apr 2011 - 11:27 | |
| I agree with you. I collect as well as model animals, Playmobil, and there are many adult collectors. But they are still toys, and I think the producers are thinking more of the young audience that collectors. Though perhaps not as much and this is changing ... And I think here is the answer to your question about Safari Ltd lion and rhino |
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Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 49 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 34993
| Subject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich Sun 3 Apr 2011 - 15:49 | |
| Brands think in money, that's normal. Making a balance in toys companies, which are their main customers? We'd loved that the answer was collectors, but we are very far from it... Even me, as a collector, I've bought much more figures for children than for me, the real customer is a collector but the figure ends in children hands. ...and when I choose a figure for a child I don't mind with scales. The quality I think is a very important point for children and collectors! The Papo tigress with cub, that is consensual the general opinion about the high quality, I see clearly that works perfectly with children and adultes... OK, one day my little niece wanted to choose a figure for me and she did with the eyes of a children, she gave me a sitting panda because it was a shame she have 10 pandas and her uncle none! |
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SUSANNE Admin
Country/State : Denmark, the peninsula of Djursland. Age : 71 Joined : 2010-09-30 Posts : 37808
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atabini
Age : 53 Joined : 2010-10-14 Posts : 257
| Subject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich Tue 5 Apr 2011 - 16:57 | |
| Hi Sussane, the scale does only matter if you think in collecting animal replicas for dioramas. In my case, I collect animal replicas because I like the animals, I look for the shape, the features and expression of the animal in order to buy or not a model, I do not care about the scale also.
If an animal looks great on any brand I will get it (if possible) to keep on adding new species to my animal collection. The important thing to me is getting as much species an individuals as I can that shows the real animal.
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SUSANNE Admin
Country/State : Denmark, the peninsula of Djursland. Age : 71 Joined : 2010-09-30 Posts : 37808
| Subject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich Tue 5 Apr 2011 - 23:54 | |
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remrock02
Age : 64 Joined : 2010-04-07 Posts : 388
| Subject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich Wed 6 Apr 2011 - 0:03 | |
| I agree 100% with Susanne and Alejandro!!!! Scale is not a big matter to me. I collect for the species and the model type. I do not do dioramas so the scale is not a factor in my decision. I just like to have as much variety as I can find. |
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HKHollinstone
Country/State : England, CUMBRIA Age : 31 Joined : 2010-03-30 Posts : 11285
| Subject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich Wed 6 Apr 2011 - 0:14 | |
| I don't mind not having all my models in scale with one another - I like to have some in scale with each and display them together. If there's a model that I really love even if it's too big or small I would still buy it. _________________ Harriet My *Collection* My *Handmade Animal Sculpture*
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