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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:03 am

Schleich has better horses and other farm animals. Papo has better big cats. They both have awesome dinosaurs. It's hard to pick.

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:58 pm

∴Worlds∴in∴Miniature∴ wrote:
I'm a big fan of both Papo and Schleich.
Basically, my personal collector's creed is that  as long as a figure is realistic and that I like it, and that it is of compatible size with the others I already have, I'll  buy it, no matter the brand.

Fully agree with your first two points. Realistic seems to be subjective. Personally, I don’t find many new products realistic. If you don’t like a figure why are you buying it? Maybe the reason is you want an example of everything a certain company makes?

As for compatibility Schleich and Papo unfortunately don’t make their products in one scale across their ranges. Scale is number one regarding compatibility for me. However, it doesn’t prevent me from buying a model if I like it!

Shame neither Papo nor Schleich have any of their animal figures in what is for me the traditional 1:32nd scale.

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:59 am

I started with Schleich..a few horses, i found them beautiful and i still believe they are the best on the market.Then i discovered Papo, as written before Papo big cats are really wonderful..now i discovered Collecta (am i off topic?)..and i love the choice of portraying unusual animals.I too find that Scleich is slowly improving but they are not very realistic.Their target are the babies with n o great anatomical knowledge of the beast portrayed.I come from the world of toy soldier collecting and there too are these distinctions..there is the mainstream brand producing toy like soldiers (by the way is a hobby a "little more" costly)..there's the in between brand and there's the brand producing little oeuvres' d'art..well i don't know if you are acquainted with Toy soldiers brands, but for me King & Country is Schleich, William Britain is Papo and First legion is Collecta (by the way i don't like their horses and cats..:)..
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:52 pm

As a specie collector i only can say that Schleich have more not common species for me as Papo but both brands have very nice figurines  sunny sunny sunny 

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:09 pm

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As a specie collector i only can say that Schleich have more not common species for me as Papo but both brands have very nice figurines  sunny sunny sunny 
I'm Agree  What a Face   cheers cheers 

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:18 pm

Schleich cute and cuddly:

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:42 pm

Great pics! Love the second one cheers 

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:47 pm

Awesome photos Chris! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:56 pm

jonesee wrote:
Great pics! Love the second one cheers 

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Awesome photos Chris! Very Happy

Many thanks Jonas and 4U. Very Happy 

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:06 pm

Schleich's Jaguar is vastly more realistic than Papo's Jaguar. Papo's Jaguar almost looks like a Leopard. It's tale is way to long and its jaw shape is incorrect. The Schleich Jaguar is perfect in these aeas.
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Thu May 19, 2016 7:21 am

In my opinion, Papo is better than Schleich in sculpting quality but Schleich nailed it better in painting quality. So, if you want animal figurine in realistic way, go find Papo.
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Thu May 19, 2016 8:16 am

My reactions to the news from this year may illustrate :
The surprise that the Papo badger was not very good, versus my surprise that the cheetas from Schleich were good lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Tue May 24, 2016 3:38 pm

First, let me say that I KNOW that this is a forum for ANIMAL collectors.... but you all seem to be knowledgeable and I thought you might be able to help me out. While I do have some of the animals (mainly for my kids), I personally lean towards medieval figures (knights, not dragons and wizards). While I liked the old World of Knights figures, the new direction Schleich has taken doesn't do much for me. Yes, the Wyvern rider is cool, but he hardly fits in with a bunch of French Knights Razz I've seen Papo's knights and I've never really been impressed. The "mutant" line of warriors looked cool in the brochure but have failed to impress me in person. So, have any of you run across a line of KNIGHT figures that are as good (or preferably better) than the old Schleich line without breaking the bank? I've found a few cool looking knights but I just don't want to drop $50 per figure. (and an on topic quest... who has the best Moose and Sea Turtle? My wife is a fan of both of those). Thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Tue May 24, 2016 4:45 pm

Hi, Menicus, wellcome here Very Happy

I do not know the first thing about knoght models. But I have some of the Papo historical models, and they are fantastic .

Uhh, the best moose and sea turtles, - that is a question of taste.
Some of the Japanese brands make magnificent sea creatures, but many are extremely fragile, and they aren't cheap if you include shipping.

About moose, I love the one from Bullyland [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and the new, huge one from Safari is great, if you don't find it too big. If you look at out Toyanimal-wiki , you can see there are many, but a lot are long retired and hard to find [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] . If you point on a picture, a blue text appears, and if you click on it, you can read a little more about each model   rendeer  study

There are many kinds of sea tutles, - your wife can take a look on "TAI" [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] to see more about them too Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Wed May 25, 2016 3:25 am

Thanks... researching :) We keep travelling to "moose" country and she never sees one so I was going to get one as kind of a joke and then take pics of it with her camera when she's not paying attention :)
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Wed May 25, 2016 3:27 am

Thanks... researching :)   We keep travelling to "moose" country and she never sees one so I was going to get one as kind of a joke and then take pics of it with her camera when she's not paying attention :)

*edit* just got done looking at that Bullyland young sea turtle and it is great. Never heard of them before but I'm checking their stuff out :)
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Wed May 25, 2016 9:17 am

Moose are so impressive ! They are enormous Shocked
Perhaps you can trigger off the collector's gene in your wife ? Laughing

I hope you can find that sea turtle, it is ever so cute Very Happy
Bullyland is not easy to find outside Europe, I think, but perhaps in Canada ?

Please let us know what you find Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Tue May 31, 2016 9:24 pm

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My other real problem(besides keeping them all on one scale) is that there IS SO MUCH COPYCATTING!
It's fine for each company to make the same animal, but make it in a TOTALLY different position! They're so transparent in their approach!

You can say that again! That is the main reason why I don't like Schleich and Papo that much: THEY TEND TOO MUCH TO COPY OTHER MANUFACTURERS. When do you see Schleich or Papo release a figure of a totally unknown species? HARDLY EVER. Consider the following:

- In 2008, Safari ltd released a Carnotaurus. A few years later, Schleich and Papo each released a Carnotaurus.
- In 2007 or so, Bullyland re-releassed its prehistoric animals for the joy of collectors, including their Archéoptéryx and Whooly Rhino. A few years later, Papo released an Archéoptéryx and a Whooly Rhino.
- In 2006 or so, Safari ltd released a Kentrosaurus. Last year, Schleich released a Kentrosaurus.
- A few years back, Safari ltd released a Tapejara. Guess what Papo released later: a Tapejara!

See what I mean? Schleich and Papo lets Safari ltd and Bullyland do the hard work of trying to sell new animals on the market. And when those animals meet success, Papo and Schleich copy them! Bleah...
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Wed Jun 01, 2016 2:46 am

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baltimore zoo wrote:
My other real problem(besides keeping them all on one scale) is that there IS SO MUCH COPYCATTING!
It's fine for each company to make the same animal, but make it in a TOTALLY different position! They're so transparent in their approach!

You can say that again! That is the main reason why I don't like Schleich and Papo that much: THEY TEND TOO MUCH TO COPY OTHER MANUFACTURERS. When do you see Schleich or Papo release a figure of a totally unknown species? HARDLY EVER. Consider the following:

- In 2008, Safari ltd released a Carnotaurus. A few years later, Schleich and Papo each released a Carnotaurus.
- In 2007 or so, Bullyland re-releassed its prehistoric animals for the joy of collectors, including their Archéoptéryx and Whooly Rhino. A few years later, Papo released an Archéoptéryx and a Whooly Rhino.
- In 2006 or so, Safari ltd released a Kentrosaurus. Last year, Schleich released a Kentrosaurus.
- A few years back, Safari ltd released a Tapejara. Guess what Papo released later: a Tapejara!

See what I mean? Schleich and Papo lets Safari ltd and Bullyland do the hard work of trying to sell new animals on the market. And when those animals meet success, Papo and Schleich copy them! Bleah...

And why not ..?!?

I think it`s nothing wrong with that... It is normal and it is also the right way for a company, finding way to be a successfull.
To make and sell this what people like.
Otherwise, with your logic, we have to expect from Papo to make what... aliens ?!? Very Happy  (of course I`m just kidding in a friendly way Wink )

Papo is a younger company then Safari or Bullyland .
In the world, this is called : competition.
When the first smartphone was made from one company, after that many other companies also start to make smartphones.
Do we blame them ..? No :)

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:54 am

Yes ! Competition, and the main reason for development . Your example with the smartphone is very good, Kosta Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Wed Jun 01, 2016 1:03 pm

They all have their own style, so it is not completely copycatting in my opinion.
Of course they make the same animal, but if that animal is doing good on the market, it is not more than a logical step for others to follow. It is us, the customers/collectors to make the difference.
For instance, you decide which one you think is best and to buy that one. Or from a standard few, buy only Safari and Bullyland. Of course we want to see as much animals in model form as possible, so we tent to get a bit frustrated if an other brand does make the same animal a few years after.

To get back on the topic: Papo or Schleich. I go with Papo, but with the old Schleich Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Wed Jun 01, 2016 2:35 pm

There are only so many animals to go around... and obviously it would be very hard for any company to do both an elephant and a mouse in scale to one another Razz That being said, I'm a fan of whoever can be the most realistic AND in "relative" scale. Looks like mix and match may be the best way to go :)
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:04 pm

My opinion is exactly in the middle of Kosta's and Valerie's opinions. Competeition is fulcral as well as good sales, if a company is not selling, there's no brand, there's no toys. So, much better two wooly rhinos than zero.
Though, I always believe that brands could be more immaginative without risking too much.
Bully released a wooly rhino, the most popular prehistoric rhino and the one that warrants bigger sales. Papo love the idea and introduces another prehistoric rhino in their range. Nothing wrong, but why another wooly rhino?
For example, Papo could release an elasmotherium instead, the common customer, would feel the same enthusiasm with an elasmotherium as with a wooly rhino. So, sales could result similar. OK, distributors don't like the elasmotherium idea once it is a strange thing. Easy, the same way as toy companies don't use the name coelodonta to wooly rhinos, they could also call the elasmotherium as a giant rhinoceros, a very appealing name that is often used to this creature. Here is an unusual species that in my opinion could easily be as successful as a wooly rhino.

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:23 pm

Honestly... I like them both! Very Happy But I agree that sometimes they should expand their species range. That´s what I liked seeing about Schleich´s range this year: they gave us some obscure prehistoric species. I can only hope they keep it up instead of releasing species that are too well known. I mean, there´s nothing, and I mean NOTHING, wrong with the T-Rex, the Triceratops or the Velociraptor, but there were more dinosaurs besides those! lol! No need to only release them.

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:04 am

Both have good figures, some more, some less.

Horses: Schleich
Wild and forest animals: Schleich
Big cats: Papo
Dinosaurs: Both
Dogs: Schleich
Small cats: Both
Fantasy: Both
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Humans: Both

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:50 pm

Interesting topic! I think that each company has it's own strengths and weaknesses like most people here.

Dogs: This definitely goes to Papo for their unusual breed selection and level of detail. Schleich's dogs used to be just as good, but unfortunately the new ones can't compete. Even if I didn't mind the smaller scale, they still lack musculature and realism.

Big Cats: This goes to Papo as well. For some reason, this company seems to excel in some areas much more than others and their big cats are pretty much the best on the market, especially their tigers.

Domestic Cats: Schleich still has some of the best domestic kitties, and if you've seen their recent grey and black ones, they seem to be getting much better at them each year. Let's hope they keep the scale the same and don't make small ones.

Horses: Schleich has traditionally had some of the best horses on the market. That being said, I've noticed the quality has recently started to slip, but I still think they're better than Papo horses in general.

Dinosaurs: Tie. Papo dinosaurs are amazingly detailed while Schleich dinosaurs have very unique colors and style. Neither one are my thing (I personally prefer Battat/Terra and CollectA) but I can understand why both lines are quite popular amongst collectors.
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Wed Aug 31, 2016 2:38 pm

I am giving my two cents as well.

I am primarily a collector of Schleich, because it is the only brand commonly available in The Netherlands.
I also find the Schleich horses [of which I evidently have the most] more appealing than Papo's. While Papo's horses are very nice, Schleich has always been more natural to me. Papo is to me, even compared to the new schleich horses, more toyish.
Papo, how ever, is very good with dinosaurs and dogs and I am starting to gather some more papo dogs lately.

Schleich still has my top spot, even though I find CollectA and Safari more and more aesthetically appealing in their wild life and CollectA and Breyer with their horses. I have my breyer and CollectA for these reasons.
My Schleich collection, how ever is not just there to be pretty. I make stories and build a whole world around then in which I like to lose myself when times get hard at home.

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PostSubject: PAPO VS. SCHLEICH   Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:17 pm

In my opinion, the PAPO figures have a more modern, more realistic and more dynamic finish, the sensation of movement and expressiveness is much greater - practically identical to that of animals in their wild state. PAPO knows how to accurately reflect the essence of each animal, not only in terms of its physical characteristics, but also with respect to its psychology and personality. As a weak point against it, it should be noted that PAPO does not enjoy sales and distribution channels that make it a well-known and popular brand. In addition they are very expensive figures, scarce and difficult to obtain. It is clear that in PAPO the quality over quantity is high, so it is a product designed for adult collecting. Pure luxury and French refinement for select minorities.

As for the SCHLEICH figures, they still have not abandoned that naive and hieratic aspect that characterized their models of the mid-90s. These are generally well-made figures, although more immature, aimed at a children's audience. Due to its high number and variety, SCHLEICH occasionally offers us figures of extraordinary beauty and drama - the male African elephant and the zebra family of the 2014 catalog are memorable! -. It is also worth mentioning its extensive repertoire of horses, which are very beautiful - the ponies are tender and charming! -. But SCHLEICH lacks in many other things - the American Bald eagle of the catalog 2017 and the 2014 look like different animals, the new dogs do not reach the level of the old models, the quality of the big cats is very variable and combines good figures with others more discreet, the marine animals of the new catalog are well made, but lack the touch of strength and Portuguese genius that MAIA & BORGES gave to aquatic animals in the editions prior to 2013. SCHLEICH is a great brand in continuous process of evolution and experimentation, with a huge range of models and variants. Another positive aspect is the wide spread in the market and the ease of acquisition of its main animal models. Although we can see that in its latest catalogs of 2016/2017 have ostensibly cut the range of figures available, which leads to think that SCHLEICH is betting on a market strategy much more aggressive and focused on those models with more sales. As a negative point, the exorbitant price of accessories - buildings, infrastructures, vehicles -, which are also quite rare and difficult to get. Nor are animal figures at an affordable price, and here the value for money is not the best on the market. In my opinion, SCHLEICH continues to play a leading role in making figures, but at the expense of degrading the quality of its products - more plastic and less wood, smaller figures, many repainting of previous models - and reducing the number of models... a clear indicator that this company is losing ground against its more direct competitors.

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:43 pm

Zurita, welcome on forum and thanks for your post. Your comment is very interesting and shows that you have an amazing level of knowledge about these brands and about the market. Loved to read it. cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:45 pm

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Zurita, welcome on forum and thanks for your post. Your comment is very interesting and shows that you have an amazing level of knowledge about these brands and about the market. Loved to read it. cheers

Just what I thought also Very Happy

You are so right : The two strengths of Schleich are distribution and appeal to children. Rolling Eyes

About the horses,
- when I put a random Schleich horse and a random Papo horse beside each other, the Schleich one will most likely be the shining star,
- but I can also pick quite a few Papo horse that beat Schleich,
- and if I take a flock from each brand, Schleich are so much like each other these days, that I can no longer tell them apart, while the Papo horses each have their own personality Very Happy


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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Yesterday at 11:12 pm

I think Schleich and Papo are on a similar level.In fact, the problem is that the schleich is practically everywhere And papo is behind them because they do not drown their products even in their country to promote it;Schleich every year around January 20 systematically gives us new and i live in france and sporadically see new models it some joke I recently bought a hippopotamus female which came out in 2014 and in any store and there were quite a lot of them before A similar situation with a tiger stjacym, a beautiful figurine bought online and I was in all skeps and until now I did not see it.So I think papo is wonderful in some figurines but hardly available.Schleich is a great brand that gives us beautiful animals and accessories and is reliable.
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