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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:17 pm

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I agree with a lot of things you said here Sphyrna18 and that's the reason I have no hope to see an "only one scale" brand. On day I decided this problem wouldn't disturb my joy of collecting and life is better like that... Since I can't do anything to change this !

Nevertheless, about LINEOL, this brand made animals "nearly in scale" in a time where international competition was very low. But they didn't made their animals or soldiers for the model trains and related hobbies. The company which made model trains is LIONEL and have nothing to do in this story.
LINEOL was a German company and LIONEL is a US company.
LINEOL disappeared after WW2 because this company was in the DDR. Then VEB PLAHO made smaller plastic animals inspred by LINEOL models.

A New LINEOL borned after the reunification of Germany but you still have to search for the zoo line Wink

...Oh, thank Christophe for Lineol,s story. Where you,ve got information about Lineol friend? Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:31 pm

Christophe probably found the ancient story of Lineol rolled inside a drifted bottle of wine in the sea... farao

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:32 pm

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Christophe probably found the ancient story of Lineol rolled inside a drifted bottle of wine in the sea... farao

The wine was excellent cheers drunken

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:36 pm

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...Oh, thank Christophe for Lineol,s story. Where you,ve got information about Lineol friend? Wink

I'm so old you know Sergey What a Face Laughing


Well, I've got a German book about Lineol, which is not so bad but with a big mistake about an elephant. I collect them for years now and I found other information on the web...At last, I'm a great medium cyclops I can read the past... in books Laughing

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PostSubject: Baltimore zoo   Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:23 am

I just want a see a set of figures that for example, if you were to put the elephants next to the lions they look proportional. However I see I'm in the minority, so I guess I'll just have to wait for a current company or maybe some new company will do it.
So go ahead and enjoy your inaccurate sized figures...
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:48 am

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I just want a see a set of figures that for example, if you were to put the elephants next to the lions they look proportional. However I see I'm in the minority, so I guess I'll just have to wait for a current company or maybe some new company will do it.
So go ahead and enjoy your inaccurate sized figures...

You are nt in a minority Balti, you are in a community cheers .

Maybe you will have to wait, nad maybe one you will be happy at last Very Happy

By the way, I don't know what is an accurate sized figure exept scale 1:1 Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:54 am

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I just want a see a set of figures that for example, if you were to put the elephants next to the lions they look proportional. However I see I'm in the minority, so I guess I'll just have to wait for a current company or maybe some new company will do it.
So go ahead and enjoy your inaccurate sized figures...

No, no, you are not a minority!
We are all wonderfully crazy here, - except me, of course, I am just crazy - and we all love you cheers I love you sunny flower
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:58 pm

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I just want a see a set of figures that for example, if you were to put the elephants next to the lions they look proportional. However I see I'm in the minority, so I guess I'll just have to wait for a current company or maybe some new company will do it.
So go ahead and enjoy your inaccurate sized figures...

Balty! We don't want you sad! So let me try to help you!
For example, Papo Nile crocodile is 30 cm long while Schleich crocodile is 21 cm! Average sizes for mature Nile crocodiles are between 3,5 m and 5 m even the largest recorded had more than 6 metters!
I am talking about adultes, so which scale is the Papo and the Schleich:
If it is 1:20, you have a large6 metters croc in Papo, and a 4,2 m in Schleich, so they are from very different sizes and fit one with other!
If you work with 1:15 scales, the Papo is a 4,5 m and the Schleich is a very small 3,15 m! If you work with 1:25 scales the Papo is out of range with 7,5 metters and the Schleich a large with 5,25 m.
I'm not trying to teach you nothing but in the Nature there's no perfect sizes, Susanne is taller than me and we fit perfectly in the same diorama! Laughing
What is for you the wanted scale??? Or you want a brand working in any scale? Why don't you play with different brands using figures of the same scale??? You have a lot of options between 1:14 and 1:22... :)
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:12 pm

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Susanne is taller than me and we fit perfectly in the same diorama! Laughing
That's not such a big deal, all people are taller than a croc Wink Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:35 pm

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Susanne is taller than me and we fit perfectly in the same diorama! Laughing
That's not such a big deal, all people are taller than a croc Wink Very Happy

Tall enough to play basketball! tongue

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PostSubject: Baltimore zoo   Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:23 pm

"I'm not trying to teach you nothing but in the Nature there's no perfect sizes"

See I think the Papo croc's perfect! Love that figure!

Imagine this(this is in the works for my next diorama/scene). An African
river scene, with my croc near/in the water's edge, with my Papo pride
of lions(7 lionesses and 2 male lions surrounding the croc, trying to steal the rest of a half eaten zebra carcass), they all look good together (satisfied with their(lions an croc) proportion). However, if I wanted to ad elephants(to put some pressure on the lions, because the elephants are super thirsty and want to drink) to my "Stand-off at the River" scene, the Papo elephants are way too small.
So in the end I would love to have the croc partly in the water, the lionesses/lions
surrounding the croc/zebra carcass and a few irritated thirsty elephants(or maybe just a big bull elephant) waiting to drink.

Hope you see my point : )
Hey, I LOVE my animal figures, unfortunately I'm a perfectionist, and I strive for the best, even if it's just something like this.
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:57 pm

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Nevertheless, about LINEOL, this brand made animals "nearly in scale" in a time where international competition was very low. But they didn't made their animals or soldiers for the model trains and related hobbies. The company which made model trains is LIONEL and have nothing to do in this story.
LINEOL was a German company and LIONEL is a US company.
LINEOL disappeared after WW2 because this company was in the DDR. Then VEB PLAHO made smaller plastic animals inspred by LINEOL models.

A New LINEOL borned after the reunification of Germany but you still have to search for the zoo line Wink

I stand corrected haha! Thanks for the correction. I had no idea that there were 2 separate companies... and the few remaining resources for hobby supplies have always treated their limited selection of stocked animals by LINEOL as being by LIONEL, so that's interesting information!

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I just want a see a set of figures that for example, if you were to put the elephants next to the lions they look proportional. However I see I'm in the minority, so I guess I'll just have to wait for a current company or maybe some new company will do it.
So go ahead and enjoy your inaccurate sized figures...



Balty! We don't want you sad! So let me try to help you!
For example, Papo Nile crocodile is 30 cm long while Schleich crocodile is 21 cm! Average sizes for mature Nile crocodiles are between 3,5 m and 5 m even the largest recorded had more than 6 metters!
I am talking about adultes, so which scale is the Papo and the Schleich:
If it is 1:20, you have a large6 metters croc in Papo, and a 4,2 m in Schleich, so they are from very different sizes and fit one with other!
If you work with 1:15 scales, the Papo is a 4,5 m and the Schleich is a very small 3,15 m! If you work with 1:25 scales the Papo is out of range with 7,5 metters and the Schleich a large with 5,25 m.
I'm not trying to teach you nothing but in the Nature there's no perfect sizes, Susanne is taller than me and we fit perfectly in the same diorama!
What is for you the wanted scale??? Or you want a brand working in any scale? Why don't you play with different brands using figures of the same scale??? You have a lot of options between 1:14 and 1:22...

What Roger said, Baltimore. I miss the days when animals were made to scale. When Safari retired the entire Vanishing Wild Collection, I saw the handwriting on the wall: in-scale collections are, at least for now, not profitable. I was excited when I saw Noah's Pals because they were all 1:24 scale, and some of the animals were really good quality (and I figured that the quality would improve which each subsequent years' releases). But Noah's Pals obviously wasn't lucrative enough to prevent Caboodle Toys from selling out to Schleich - in essence, Schleich paid off the competition to make them disappear. Evil or Very Mad

So, just like many of the other members of this forum, I determine the scale range of my figures and sometimes arrange my displays so that all the same scale figures are together. I've found that in general, once all the figures are side-by-side, the animals look good enough to make you forget they are not all the same company/collection.

All I was saying is that if the only way you will ever be happy is for a company to make all their figures "proportional," prepare to be disappointed unless you have the wherewithall to start your own company, because barring that, it's not likely to happen any time soon. No Sorry if you thought I was somehow attacking you or your opinion/wants/wishes/desires. I wasn't. And a part of me agrees with you entirely. I was just saying you may want to find another way to be happy with this hobby, or you will be sorely disappointed. Unfortunately, profits drive business, so even if a company WANTS to make a scaled figure collection of high quality animal replicas, if it won't be profitable to do so, they CAN'T do it (well, not and survive to continue the collection).
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:19 pm

If I look at the actual range,I'd say Papo.If I were to look back in history,I'd say Schleich!
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:30 pm

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"I'm not trying to teach you nothing but in the Nature there's no perfect sizes"

See I think the Papo croc's perfect! Love that figure!

Imagine this(this is in the works for my next diorama/scene). An African
river scene, with my croc near/in the water's edge, with my Papo pride
of lions(7 lionesses and 2 male lions surrounding the croc, trying to steal the rest of a half eaten zebra carcass), they all look good together (satisfied with their(lions an croc) proportion). However, if I wanted to ad elephants(to put some pressure on the lions, because the elephants are super thirsty and want to drink) to my "Stand-off at the River" scene, the Papo elephants are way too small.
So in the end I would love to have the croc partly in the water, the lionesses/lions
surrounding the croc/zebra carcass and a few irritated thirsty elephants(or maybe just a big bull elephant) waiting to drink.

Hope you see my point : )
Hey, I LOVE my animal figures, unfortunately I'm a perfectionist, and I strive for the best, even if it's just something like this.

I see your point, and I agree, but you can use the Wildlife Wonders African Elephant, which is very nice and works well with Papo detail- & realism-wise. You could actually also include the WW Reticulated Giraffe, 'coz it's in scale as well Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:14 pm

Why my threads are always so hot? tongue

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:49 pm

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You could actually also include the WW Reticulated Giraffe, 'coz it's in scale as well Wink
The AAA large giraffe is perfect if you want a giraffe in scale.

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PostSubject: Baltimore zoo   Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:08 am

I would prefer whole brand new elephant figures(a cow and a bull).
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:28 am

See Balty! Many people trying to help you, you are a lucky member! Fortunately I think we all are lucky when we have the animal world in our hearts!
OK, so now I have more information, I know your diorama is based in Papo figures, so you use animals in a range between 1:15 and 1:20. I think a 1:20 elephant is nice enough to you! Using a large male African elephant, you need a 20 cm at sholder to have a 4,0 m elephant, it in 1:16 scale represents a 3,2 metters elephant, the size of a relatively small elephant! elephant
I don't know the scale of the WWW Safari elephant but people here can tell you. But the WWW girafe is easy,, is a 24 cm high reticulated giraffe, represents in a 1:20 scale a giraffe with almost 5 metters, perfect! :) In a 1:16 scale a 4 m giraffe, nothing impossible. What is missing in your diorama??? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:08 am

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I would prefer whole brand new elephant figures(a cow and a bull).
A family of all in scale African elephants would look stunning and the only solution I can say is have some custom made to the scale you want.
I love my WW Asian elephant, but I'm thinking of making an Asian elephant cow in a calm pose (I've bought some clay specially for it) and I would like to make a mould from it too.

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PostSubject: Baltimore zoo   Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:02 am

Thanks Roger.
Since this is becoming redundant, my final say is simply this.
I would like my animal figures to look in size to each other like real animals that you see at the zoo.
Example: The Papo meerkats(which I love dearly) are to large when placed next to the Papo lions. (So those meerkats would have to be a lot smaller/or the lions would have to be bigger). Catch my drift?
It goes back to my Britians, I love how they all look pretty proportional to each other. I guess the scale thing is too complicated. I don't have any problems with them. They're elephants are awesome when next to their hippos, when next to their Indian rhino, when placed next to their black rhino, and so on and so on.
That's all I'm saying and hopefully I won't bring up anymore, since I have a totally different way of looking at this matter.
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:22 pm

This is not redundant, we are developing the discussion, I was not kidding, you want a brand where all animals are in scale but this is not possible, even Britains, show me the Britains meerkats! Do you know what is the size of a 1:32 Meerkat? ...and I have the Britains sable antelope and I don't believe that this is a 1:32 scaled figure, but maybe I'm wrong!
The Britains models will not look nice enough with your Papos, maybe only your Papo elepahnts are in a 1:32 scale. I understand you perfectly, but please tell me a scale where suricates and elephants could live side to side in a diorama?
...and I repeat, the old scaled brands that I don't have but seeing in Willy's pics with the zoo keeper, I'm sure that the scales are wrong.
IMO a nice scale would be a 1:20 or 1:18...
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:34 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:00 pm

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This is not redundant, we are developing the discussion, I was not kidding, you want a brand where all animals are in scale but this is not possible, even Britains, show me the Britains meerkats! Do you know what is the size of a 1:32 Meerkat? ...and I have the Britains sable antelope and I don't believe that this is a 1:32 scaled figure, but maybe I'm wrong!
The Britains models will not look nice enough with your Papos, maybe only your Papo elepahnts are in a 1:32 scale. I understand you perfectly, but please tell me a scale where suricates and elephants could live side to side in a diorama?
...and I repeat, the old scaled brands that I don't have but seeing in Willy's pics with the zoo keeper, I'm sure that the scales are wrong.
IMO a nice scale would be a 1:20 or 1:18...

Yes Roger, Britains are "nearly" in scale to each other... Nearly only. And there was no meerkats then.

The only way to have a collection "at the same scale" nowadays is to find enough place and money and do like Danny "Berlinzoo", buy 1/12 scale models. cheers

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PostSubject: Baltimore zoo   Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:36 pm

As Kikimalou says "Britains are nearly in scale to each other".
Now the word "nearly" is what I'm looking for! This is what I've been saying all along. I now understand to do everything in scale is maybe a little impossible, but "nearly" works for me! So for instance if you did an African jungle diorama, the new Papo mandrill would look too big next to the Papo gorilla.
So to do it right if, the mandrill would have to have been half the size they made it (to look better in the same diorama, would have worked for me), or if they made a larger gorilla it would work too.

That's why I love my Britain zoo and farm animals. Because they're "nearly"
in scale to each other, so they look descent together(depending on how they are set up).
Example: My Star Wars figures(3 3/4' collection), they recently(2010) made a Walmart Exclusive Jabba Throne play set with a Jabba, which is in proportion to the figures. Hasbro didn't make a 2" tall and 5" long Jabba...(Jabba is one of the largest characters in the Star Wars figure series, and they made him proportional, I compare it to the elephants of figures). The figure companies should follow Hasbro and do the same with their lines! I guarantee you, there are more Star Wars collectors than animal figure collectors, and there would be an outrage if they made a Jabba, Taun Taun, or Wampa that wasn't "nearly" in scale to the 3 3/4 figures!



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PostSubject: PAPO VS SCHLEICH   Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:10 pm

Papo is the best ! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:25 pm

Papo makes som wonderful models, I couldn`t agree more  Very Happy
And the kudu and Gnus are among the best ones !

The new kudu from Schleich is better, but alas, look at the paintwork  Crying or Very sad


About the gnus, - what I love about Papo is that their models have personality, - they are not just standing there  Rolling Eyes
But the new Schleich gnu and calf is not bad, IMHO  scratch
Ohhhhh, what a beautyful white tailed gnu in the background  cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:04 pm

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Ohhhhh, what a beautyful white tailed gnu in the background cheers

Thank you Susanne Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:38 pm

I think the Lineol white tailed gnu is the best Gnu drunken

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:42 pm

I also vote for Lineol cheers cheers cheers
Congrats Kiki! I like Your herd of gnus and the way You arrange them Wink tongue Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:48 pm

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Ohhhhh, what a beautyful white tailed gnu in the background cheers

Thank you Susanne Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:01 pm

So is PAPO the best scratch ?

I don't worship SCHLEICH as you maybe know Laughing but I'm very happy to have PAPO and SCHLEICH Very Happy Wink

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Ohhhhh, what a beautyful white tailed gnu in the background cheers

Thank you Susanne Wink

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Yes Susanne, this pic is indeed one of my collection I made maybe two years ago Laughing

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I think the Lineol white tailed gnu is the best Gnu drunken

I know a friend in UK who made two fantastic white-tailed gnus Wink Cool

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I also vote for Lineol cheers cheers cheers
Congrats Kiki! I like Your herd of gnus and the way You arrange them Wink tongue Very Happy

Thanks Ana Very Happy My herd is bigger now and will grow in 2012 I guess... So we probably see newer pics Laughing

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PostSubject: please look at my schleich kudu, it's without strips! :(   Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:12 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:46 pm

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Yes Susanne, this pic is indeed one of my collection I made maybe two years ago Laughing


Ahhh, so there are not THAT many of them Laughing

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I know a friend in UK who made two fantastic white-tailed gnus Wink Cool


And I also know somebody in Spain who made a winderful white-tailed gnu Wink cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:55 am

the new schleich kudu,with the right paintwork, is better than the papo kudu...in my opinion....well at least the schleich kudu is a more acurate depiction of a real kudu.
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:04 am

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the new schleich kudu,with the right paintwork, is better than the papo kudu...in my opinion....well at least the schleich kudu is a more acurate depiction of a real kudu.

You are right, horns shape, body proportion are more accurate on the new SCHLEICH. But again the PAPO have much more personnality ! Put them together in a batch of figuine and you will see the PAPO first... And it's not a matter of size Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:48 pm

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the new schleich kudu,with the right paintwork, is better than the papo kudu...in my opinion....well at least the schleich kudu is a more acurate depiction of a real kudu.

You are right, horns shape, body proportion are more accurate on the new SCHLEICH. But again the PAPO have much more personnality ! Put them together in a batch of figuine and you will see the PAPO first... And it's not a matter of size Laughing

But I find Schleich Kudu 2011 is more appearing to me than Papo.

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:43 pm

I love both Kudus,Papo's and Schleich's! Very Happy In my opinion,both have their special charm,although I like the Schleich one a TINY,LITTLE BIT more... tongue

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:08 pm

I gave my opinion about the 2 kudus before, the Schleich is a defensive figure but very accurate, more than the Papo! Altough, when the Papo arrived it was a big party in my jungle and everybody got neutral when the Schleich arrived! :) Schleich wins in sculpting and painting, Papo wins in pose, expression and motion! Laughing I have both! Wink
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PostSubject: schleich vs papo   Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:41 pm

who would win
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:21 pm

Laughing Laughing

Papo only started their animal ranges in 2004.
The first years Schleich war far better, but now.... Rolling Eyes

Let`s look at some examples from their present ranges :

- Dinoes : Papo
- Dogs : Papo
- Horses : Papo
- Cattle : Schleich
- Cats : Schleich
- Birds : Schleic
- Wild cats : Papo
- Northern wild animals Papo
- Elefants, rhino, hippo : Papo
- Sea animals, Schleich doesn`t have them any more..

To me it looks like Schleich is going for the elves, and the animals are very much for children.

Other suggestions ? scratch

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:11 pm

OK, here goes my contribution, only wild life and species available in 2012.
Tomorrow I can change my choices! Laughing
zebras, Schleich
leopard, Papo
Cheetahs, Papo
Asian elephants, none
lions, Papo
Ostrich, none
Gnu, Papo
Kudu, both
Chimps, none
Meerkats, Papo
Giraffes, all
Pelican, both
Gorilla, Papo
Cape buffalo, Papo
Black rhino, Papo
Giant tortoise, Papo
Hippopotamus, Papo
Crocodile, Papo
Yak, both
Malaian tapir, both
Giant panda, Schleich
Kangaroos, Schleich
Baktrian camel, Papo
African elephants, Papo
Tigers, Papo
Polar bears, Papo
Emperor penguins, neutral
Eurasian lynx, none
Moose, Papo
Red squirrel, Schleich
Red foxes, no comments
Wild rabbit, Schleich
Red deers, none
Jaguar, Schleich
Racoon, scratch
Grey wolf, Papo
Bald eagle, none
American bison, Papo
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:31 pm

Ahhh, yes, Roger, you are right !!!!

The Papo zebras are horrible and the Schleich zebras are beautyful Very Happy

About ostriches, I LOVE the dancing Schleich ostrich, even if his head is too large, - and even if his "wife" is black geek Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:32 pm

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OK, here goes my contribution, only wild life and species available in 2012.
Tomorrow I can change my choices! Laughing

Red deers, none

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I think I like old red deer by Scheich and also current red deer by Papo What a Face What is wrong with them? Shocked Suspect Wink

It's indeed hard to choose, some animals are better in schleich some in papo Very Happy
Wild cats in general are better in Papo except the Jaguar cat
Elephants , for me not very exciting from any of these brands Suspect Elephant calves by schleich are quite lovely. And adult Asian elephant by Papo elephant Maybe all too small scale, would prefer 1:20
zebras are very easy to choose, obviously better are schleich,
from farm animals I like Papo goats more and schleich sheep more Very Happy Cats I prefer from other brands I think. Rabbits are all excellent CUTE albino Wink
Cape buffalo is indeed nicer in Papo

Well, more or less my opinion is similar to Roger's Suspect alien Very Happy But I really don't lke Papo moose and I do like Schleich ostrich newest version Shocked

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:05 pm

I would say Schleich for farm animals and humans, Papo for wild animals. Neither for dinosaurs!

Both Schleich and Papo have gone downhill in recent years, IMHO... Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:20 pm

It's difficult choice and supposed it depend on personal choice and taste too!

I Love
Big Cats or wild cat - Papo (except lynx)
dog - Schleich & Papo
Dinos-Papo
Meerat - Schleich & Papo
Sea life - Schleich & Papo
Zebra - Schleich
African elephant - Papo
Asian elephant - none
Cape buffalo - Schleich

Perhaps more to think....

I have to agree "schleich61" mentioned this
  1. Both Schleich and Papo have gone downhill in recent years

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:18 am

Papo by far. I only have one Schleich - their most recent okapi. Most of what I have seen by them looks really 'derpy'. Keep in mind though, that I'm not familiar with their past (retired/old models) and I do not pay any attention to domestic or livestock breeds when it comes to collecting.

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:54 am

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Papo by far. I only have one Schleich - their most recent okapi. Most of what I have seen by them looks really 'derpy'. Keep in mind though, that I'm not familiar with their past (retired/old models) and I do not pay any attention to domestic or livestock breeds when it comes to collecting.

I understand you, then.
Their domestic animals are best, - and the retired ones had a charm that they completely lack now. Crying or Very sad


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I have to agree "schleich61" mentioned this
  1. Both Schleich and Papo have gone downhill in recent years

Well, about papo, - you must mean the VERY recent years, because if you compare to the first ones, even if the first animal models were ever so charming, they surely went uphill when it comes to accuracy Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:02 am

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I have to agree "schleich61" mentioned this
  1. Both Schleich and Papo have gone downhill in recent years
Well, it's easy to mix "ups & downs" with "downhill", I would wait a year or two to say definitely if it's downhill... [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Papo vs. Schleich   Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:15 am

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I have to agree "schleich61" mentioned this
  1. Both Schleich and Papo have gone downhill in recent years
Well, it's easy to mix "ups & downs" with "downhill", I would wait a year or two to say definitely if it's downhill... [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

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