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Pardofelis



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PostSubject: What is the best paste?   Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:59 am

Hello,
I was tempted to start some day making my own figurines since a kind member here talked about WePam paste and even made a tutorial for making figures.
But I discovered that there are a lot of pastes for sculpting. WePam, Fimo, Milliput, Sculpey, Monster Clay....
I would like to know what is the best, which one allow finest details, what of these needs baking and what not, which ones reduce a bit in size after drying and which not, if the final result is more fragile in ones than others, etc etc etc... What would be the best for making animal figures (mostly small and fragile with thin parts, such as birds and fishes)?

Thanks!

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PostSubject: Re: What is the best paste?   Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:58 pm

I am absolutely no expert, but looking through some of the topics here, I see that many recommend supersculpey study

As far as I remember, there are two kinds, a soft kind and a hard kind, and I remember that Anne ( who is one of our experts and makes models for Mojo) , wrote a whil ago that she mixes the two.

But I hope that many people will ansver you, because we have a lot of fantastic artist among the members Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: What is the best paste?   Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:54 pm

I use Sculpey III with moderate success (it works, I am just not good at 3D art LOL)
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PostSubject: Re: What is the best paste?   Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:48 pm

Thanks to both! Maybe I will choose Supersculpey then, if it's not much more expensive than other pastes :)

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PostSubject: Re: What is the best paste?   Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:22 pm

The same subject was discussed in this topic but just with a single reply that may be of use. study

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PostSubject: Re: What is the best paste?   Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:28 pm

I am sorry, yes, I use SuperSculpey too, not Sculpey III.
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PostSubject: Re: What is the best paste?   Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:36 am

@Roger wrote:
The same subject was discussed in this topic but just with a single reply that may be of use. study

Sorry, I searched in the first page of Tutorials for an already existent thread but I was too lazy to search in all the remaining pages Razz
Anyway that reply also points to Super Sculpey. So looks like things are clear here Very Happy
I see that it must be baked in oven. Then, is WePam the only paste that don't need baking?

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PostSubject: Re: What is the best paste?   Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:04 am

@Pardofelis wrote:
@Roger wrote:
The same subject was discussed in this topic but just with a single reply that may be of use. study

Sorry, I searched in the first page of Tutorials for an already existent thread but I was too lazy to search in all the remaining pages Razz
Anyway that reply also points to Super Sculpey. So looks like things are clear here Very Happy
I see that it must be baked in oven. Then, is WePam the only paste that don't need baking?

That's a topic from more than 7 years ago. There is no problem that you open a new one. I may merge both eventually. If you search using the word clay instead of paste, your results may be more successful.
About your last question, maybe this topic is of help. Idea

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PostSubject: Re: What is the best paste?   Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:59 am

Thanks a lot Roger! It's really overhelming the variety of clays and pastes for sculpting available, they're more than animal figurine brands Razz Razz I think that finally I will choose the Fimo Air Light recommended by Fisva, it don't need baking nor mixing, it allows tiny details, it seems more resistent (no crackings) and it's recommended by a very competent sculptress that makes magnific figures :-)

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PostSubject: Re: What is the best paste?   Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:34 pm

There are a lot of materials you can use. You just need to find a clay that will be convenient for you.
I tried many kinds of clay, including natural clay.
First, there are three types of materials at all:

1) Air drying
2) Epoxy (consists from two pieces)
3) Baking ones


1) Air drying
You can divide them into two groups: like-natural-clay and velvet clay.
I NEVER use like-natural-clay (and natural one too) in my works. If you want to spend a lot of time on your sculpture and then just see the dust instead of it, you can use it. It is very fragile. All materials like that. Anyway you can do all the possible details (teeth, fur, claws), but they may be easily broken.
Example: DAS, white and red natural clay

DAS


Velvet clay is much more nice choice, but it is a very specific material. It reminds a bubble gum, but very soft and not clinging to hands. It allows to make a lot of details that may be tiny. Small details become dry about 15-20 minutes (to become full dry they need more time, of course), thick layers harden in 1-2 days. After full drying you can even change the pose of figurine a bit. If you use carcase, figurine may be easily repaired in case of break.
Example: velvet clay from "Amos" (I-Clay)

Amos (I-Clay)



2) Epoxy
Basically used on customs or to repair broken figurines from many types of materials. But it is still possible to create a full sculpture, just as you want to do. It consists from two components that you need to mix before starting to work. I don't really know how it feels in hands, but I used Epoxiline to process one resin cast. Epoxiline reminds placticine and baking clay, it clings to plastic very well. It allows to do a texture. After drying it is very, very, very hard. You even can't bend this thing, not that break.
As I know, other epoxies are breakable (if to drop a sculpture), but still hard.
But you should be careful while using: it's toxic (anyway, I worked with it without gloves and hadn't got any allergy on my skin).
Example: MagicSculpt, EpoxySculpt, Milliput, Epoxiline

MagicSculpt


ApoxySculpt (grey)


3) Baking clay
It is almost the same thing as regular plasticine in hands, but after finishing you need to bake it. Allows to do everything that you want (it DOES depends from that type you choose).
I would not recommend you a Super Sculpey. It is very convenient in work but after baking is pretty fragile. Small details can be broken pretty easily.
Personally I like Cernit better. It is a very flexible material, if you do a little sheet from it, you can bend it in half, and after that the sheet becomes the same as you created. As I know, Fimo is close to Cernit, but more available.
Example: Fimo, Cernit, Super Sculpey, Craft&Clay

Super Sculpey
While creating the texture, the material goes with squama.



Cernit



Russian baking clay "Tsvetik"
Pretty fragile.



Craft&Clay
Hard, but may be broken.



Good luck in finding your favourite clay and creating sculptures! sunny

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PostSubject: Re: What is the best paste?   Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:01 pm

What a complete guide!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow! I'm amazed!!!!!!! Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Million thanks for that long and exhaustive guide with all the details needed and even illustrated! I love you I love you I love you I love you

I think that velvet air-drying clay would be the most fitting for me. I'm not interested in material that becomes fragile after finished such as natural clay or Super Sculpey. The most resistent material according to your guide seems to be Apoxiline, but I'm not much convinced because the need of mixing both parts in the right proportions plus the fact of being toxic. Squamation with Super Sculpey is also an issue.

P. S. these hedgehog-haired wolves are incredible, THAT's patience for making a figure!!!!!!!

Thanks a lot for your lovely sculpting paste guide!

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PostSubject: Re: What is the best paste?   Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:38 pm

@Pardofelis wrote:
What a complete guide!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow! I'm amazed!!!!!!! Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Million thanks for that long and exhaustive guide with all the details needed and even illustrated! I love you I love you I love you I love you

I think that velvet air-drying clay would be the most fitting for me. I'm not interested in material that becomes fragile after finished such as natural clay or Super Sculpey. The most resistent material according to your guide seems to be Apoxiline, but I'm not much convinced because the need of mixing both parts in the right proportions plus the fact of being toxic. Squamation with Super Sculpey is also an issue.

P. S. these hedgehog-haired wolves are incredible, THAT's patience for making a figure!!!!!!!

Thanks a lot for your lovely sculpting paste guide!

Nice to hear I could help you!
I also forgot to type that velvet clay is very lightwight. Little figurines without wire inside can weigh just 1 gramm. And as it reminds to bubble gum as a material, it might to seem that joints between layers can not be invisible. But you just need to add some water Wink Also it can be broken, but usually sculptures just bounce without break (if to drop).

The other highly recommended from my point are Fimo and Cernit. After baking they seemed to be a normal plastic that looks like Schleich or other brands (I'd say like Chap Mei more, which is pretty flexible).

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PostSubject: Re: What is the best paste?   Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:42 pm

Wow, what a great, complete guide, Anasta! Applause I wouldn't add anything. I'll just say I like to use Apoxie clay, Apoxie sculpt (both being epoxy type clay) and Super Sculpey medium blend. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: What is the best paste?   Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:47 pm

Fabulous contribution from Anasta to this topic! cheers

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PostSubject: Re: What is the best paste?   Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:13 am

This now turned into a very valuable topic cheers

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