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I have reading interesting sentences in the topic of Megaptera`s collection.

Often are Major brand animal figures wrong or not exactly marked. Megaptera find any right species and i also find out some of the figures are wrong or only marked as simple version.

For example, the large Safari Ltd is marked as Albatros, but with a yellow beak and blue legs it is more a Galapagos Albatros. The same for the Papo Albatros, that is a black-browed Albatros.

Or the old Schleich Kudu have white hairs, so it is more a Cape Kudu.

I think there are any more examples that we can here share and discuss.

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Thank you:)
Here is an example. I found out that the Gharial from Schleich is the False one. The Colouration, the shape of its head and also the habitat Schleich has shown in the booklets show you, that this one is a False Gharial:
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Ganges Gharials don't have this colouration. They are only greenish with stripes, but without the spots:
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Because of its colouration, the new Hedgehog from Papo could be a Somali Hedgehog. It has darker toes than the Four-toed one. And the colouration of the snout is also darker:
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I know that Colorata wanted to create a Bottlenose Dolphin. But the colouration is exactly like the one from a Clymene Dolphin. The snout is a bit short, but it is also known, that Clymene Dolphins have a shorter snout than their relatives:
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The colouration is really similar to the Clymene. It has a dark back, the overall colouration is grey white a lighter patch and the belly is nearly white. It also has this darker stripe between the eyes and the pectoral fins.

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The goose from Schleich is an Emden Goose. It is an endangered domesticated breed, but this breed is well known from German fairytales and also in German zoos you can find them:

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The older cow from Schleich, which still has horns resembles a very old cattle breed from Germany, the so called German Black Pied Cattle or in Germany known as Deutsches Niederungsrind:

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After a visit in the phylogenetic Museum of my town, I found out that the Spider Monkey from Safari resembles a Brown-headed Spider Monkey:

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Great :)

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And also the Schleich Sea Horse is a Slender Sea Horse:

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After a visit in the phylogenetic Museum of my town, I found out that the Spider Monkey from Safari resembles a Brown-headed Spider Monkey:

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I guess it depends on which factory painted your figure. Several, including mine, have a more pinkinsh face and therefor are more likely a red-faced spider monkey ;-)
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After a visit in the phylogenetic Museum of my town, I found out that the Spider Monkey from Safari resembles a Brown-headed Spider Monkey:

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I guess it depends on which factory painted your figure. Several, including mine, have a more pinkinsh face and therefor are more likely a red-faced spider monkey ;-)

You are right, mine have also one touch more pink

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Then, I need the one with the pink face cyclops
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The Brown Pelican from Schleich is the juvenile form of a Brown Pelican:

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Most of the Humpback Whale models represent the Atlantic subspecies Megaptera novaeangliae kuzira, whereas the Papo Humpback Whale and maybe also the Mini Humpback from Safari could be a Pacific one, the Megaptera novaeangliae australis:

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The older Schleich crocodile is a Mugger/Marsh Crocodile. The colouration and the shape are very similar.

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And now the Orcas. Today, there are many subspecies known, which could be also separate species.
With its beautiful bright saddle and the overall black and white colour, the new Safari Orca could be a Resident one. Maybe it's a Southern Resident, which are really famous for their family structures, special languages and dialects, culture and also the use of medicine. They also can get much older than other Orcas:
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And then we have the Schleich Orca from 2013. It has also a dark black and white colouration. But it has a fainting saddle and the model is also quite massive:
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Wow,

could you please send me a better pic of the poster.

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Ok, I can send it to you. Very Happy
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Thank you :)

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Schleich made this older model of a bull which I think maybe an attempt at a Pinzguer bull.
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Possibly a Merinolandshaf?made by Schleich
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Certainly it does not look like a Brahma at all. Brahma is very characteristic and totally different to the generic rooster represented in this figure. It have feathers in the legs to the toes, and much smaller crest, also a characteristic "small-headed" stocky shape.
There are tons of breeds that could fit well with this figure, for example a New Hampshire. But more probably fits better with a no-breed domestic chicken.

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Very interesting.
Now, it's my turn again. The Schleich Alpaca and I think nearly all alpaca models out there resemble the Huacaya breed.

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In the Schleich pet collection, there was a Tortoise, which resembles a Russian Tortoise. This species often serves as a pet in Germany, particularly in the eastern territories. I also have a Russian Tortoise, which you can also see here:

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In the Schleich pet collection, there was a Tortoise, which resembles a Russian Tortoise. This species often serves as a pet in Germany, particularly in the eastern territories. I also have a Russian Tortoise, which you can also see here:

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Interesting, very interesting

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The old frog from Schleich resembles a Pool Frog, which is a common pet in Germany.

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And this frog from Schleich resembles a European Tree Frog:

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Megaptera have in his collection a Schleich porcupine. I don't post photos because I don't have own photos of it (as I not have this figure), but today I've read that it's a Indian crested porcupine (Hystrix indica), as it have a black mane. African and South African crested porcupines have a partially white mane.

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You are right. This truly is an Indian Porcupine. Moreover, it seems that the new Porcupine from CollectA is more a Cape Porcupine.

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Interesting

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Indian Runner ducks by Britains and Indian Runner ducks
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The Science and Nature Quoll is an Eastern Quoll:

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Found in ATF a message saying that the Safari LTD's coyote (the one belonging to the Wild Safari North American Wildlife, not the enormous one belonging to Wildlife Wonders) represent an Eastern Coyote (group of coyotes with wolf and dog blood that forms a self-sustaining population), eastern coyotes have a bolder black stripe in their backs and are less fuzzy, bigger and more "wolfy" than western coyotes and looks like to match better with the Safari figurine.

Eastern Coyotes are not a taxon (they have no different scientific name), but since in this thread are accepted also domestic breeds or even age stages (as in the brown pelican), that also are not taxons, I think it can go here.

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Very interesting, Pardofelis.
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Very interesting, Pardofelis.

I agree :)

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The Black Panther from Schleich is a Javan Leopard. Researches have shown, that this melanism only occurs in this subspecies. Even Black Panthers in Zoos have at least 70 % the Javan genotype:

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Moreover, Leopards with this melanism are more resistant to several diseases.
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Perhaps clarify what you mean by 'this melanism'?  Is the melanism in Javan leopards different than the melanism attested in leopards in the Rift Valley, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], or [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]?  I've heard it's more common in Javan leopards than in other populations, but do you mean that it's a different mutation that the makers of the Schleich model were trying to capture specifically?
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Modern science have shown that all Leopards, which are showing this form of melanism are Javan Leopards. Even in other countries. So, the researchers believe, that Panthers in the wild of other countries are the descendants of Javan ones, which were captures for kings. They always share the same genotype and they are completely different from other leopard subspecies in this gene sequence.
Once there were only Javans with this melanism, but because of zoos, royals, whatever in the 19th and early 20th century, they were mixed up with other leopard subspecies. So, Panthers in zoos are no real Panthers. Their genomes show at least 20 % informations of other subspecies.
So all in all, the melanism of leopards has its origin in the javan region. It was an adaptation to a disease and other threats.

But as always in nature, there are maybe also other subspecies, which can show melanism.
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Do you mean really that wild African leopards of Rift valley are actually the Javan subspecies becoming from escapes?

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No, these really are mutants with melanism. But it has shown, that all black panthers in Zoos or in the hands of royals are Javan Leopards.
As I said, there is never a no in nature. Very Happy
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