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Thanks for clarifying! That's really interesting.
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You are welcome Very Happy
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Since 2016 it is known that the Galapagos Tortoise is not a single species, but at least 13 different species. Some of them are already extinct or critically endangered. Some of the older Schleich Tortoises look similar to some of these species.

The oldest Schleich Galapagos Tortoise looks similar to the Volcan Alcedo Tortoise:
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The next one from Schleich is similar to the Santa Cruz (Indefatigable Island) Tortoise:
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And of course the CollectA Abingdon (Punta) Island Tortoise, which is already known:)
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And this one from Safari could be a Chatham Island Tortoise:

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That is interesting, very interesting again

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After somebody asked about what species of gazelle is the new PNSO model, I've found that is a Mountain gazelle. See this reply in the topic:

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And this one from Safari could be a Chatham Island Tortoise:

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Great, but now i believe i need more of these showing tortoises :)

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This Tortoise from Nayab is a Big-headed Tortoise:

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The Papo Galapagos Tortoise represents also a Volcan Alcedo Tortoise, which seems to be the typical species for toy models.

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Interesting observations about the porcupines. It is not like CollectA to misname a figure. I wonder if the final product will have less white and look like an Indian Crested, or maybe it will be rebranded as a Cape? It really does look to be painted like a Cape in the promotional images.
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Because of its shape, the colouration, the longer snout and its dorsal fin, which is not curvy, the Papo Bottlenose Dolphin really looks similar to an Indopacific Bottlenose Dolphin. Moreover, the head is less convex:

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It could be interesting to control all the bootlenose dolphins

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For make an invincible dolphin army and start and epic war? Laughing

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Flipper strikes back!
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This rooster from Schleich could be an Altsteier, which is the best known hen breed in Germany and Austria:

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The Altsteier is one of the oldest hen breeds in Europe.
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The Safari Ltd Glass Squid is a Lyre Cranch Squid:
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waw! it's very small!.. Shocked
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It tends to happen with newborn creatures Wink

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The Southlands Replicas Wombat is a Northern hairy-nosed Wombat, which is one of the rarest land mammals:

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And the Wombat from Safari is a Southern hairy-nosed Wombat:
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What is your criteria for tell one as the southern and the other as the northern?

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The Southland Replicas figure was specifically marketed as a Southern hairy-nose.
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The Southland Replicas figure was specifically marketed as a Southern hairy-nose.

Yes, and Jason, the sculptor, told it as a Southern hairy-nosed wombat, directly on forum. Southern and Northern hairy-nosed wombats are quite hard to identify, I think the proportion between the nasal and frontal bones is one of the identifying keys. It is very hard to measure in a toy, unless there is a convincent reason to determine the official version as wrong.

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The impression I get is a lot of the IDs in this thread are random comparisons of figures (whose paint jobs can vary slightly from factory to factory) and random online image searches (and posted images online are not guaranteed to always be accurate). It's fun if you want to create a more taxonomically diverse and obscure collection, but I wouldn't put much weight personally into many of them, esp where subspecies are concerned. It is fun, though! :)

I will admit I have done similar with butterflies, but for my own collection as well. But I have an algorithm I take into consideration, including but not limited too: 1) paint job, 2) has it been done before (companies love to copy one another), and 3) where is the company located (companies are more likely to do familiar, local fauna)
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Yes, they are really similar in shape. But I've heard from a zoologist that this Grey-brownish colour, which the Southlands model has, is more typical for a Northern hairy-nosed Wombat. I don't know that the creator himself marked it as a Southern one. But the Safari Wombat looks more like a Southern hairy-nosed Wombat, because of the colour scheme, which is more brownish. The ears of the Northern one are slightly longer, but this also can vary from one to another animal.
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I've never seen a living Northern hairy-nosed Wombat. Maybe someone from Australia can help us here to illuminate us:)
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The Southland Replicas figure was specifically marketed as a Southern hairy-nose.

Yes, and Jason, the sculptor, told it as a Southern hairy-nosed wombat, directly on forum. Southern and Northern hairy-nosed wombats are quite hard to identify, I think the proportion between the nasal and frontal bones is one of the identifying keys. It is very hard to measure in a toy, unless there is a convincent reason to determine the official version as wrong.

Why i miss that. So i need it :)

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I've got this frog from Andreas. I don't know the brand and it was really hard to identify the species. But I think it could be a Pine Barrens Tree Frog. I'm open for discussion. Maybe someone knows a Frog species, which fits even better:
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This rooster from Schleich could be an Altsteier, which is the best known hen breed in Germany and Austria:

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... the rooster with his yellow legs is not far from the look of a "Italiener"-Hahn (Leghorn):

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This rooster from Schleich could be an Altsteier, which is the best known hen breed in Germany and Austria:

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... the rooster with his yellow legs is not far  from the look of a "Italiener"-Hahn (Leghorn):

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Very interesting. I also thought that it could be this breed. I chose the Altsteier, because Schleich has its roots in the south of Germany, where the Altsteier breeds are quite common.
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This goat from Schleich could be a so called Bunte Deutsche Edelziege:

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Nayab chameleon (chameleo deremsis??)

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Nayab chameleon (chameleo deremsis??)

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I am sure it's probably just a poorly-painted Jackson's chameleon. But, if you wanted to call it T. deremsis, go for it!

I should point out that C. deremsis is in the genus Troceros with the Jackson's chameleon.
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Chameleons are often difficult to identify. But it really has a similar look. Very Happy
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The Dove from Papo could be a Mittelhäuser:

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Yes could be

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The scallop from Schleich is a Atlantic Bay Scallop:

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For me it's almost undoubtely a St James's scallop, Pecten maximus.

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Really good. This one even looks more like the scallop from Schleich. Applause
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Interesting specie for a little accessories.

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Very Happy Applause cheers study
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honestly the scallop is generic, so you can probably call it whatever you want for your collection(s).
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Maybe is generic, but there are the next factors:

-Pecten maximus is the most widely known species with great difference with any other scallop species. It's very unlikely that a brand make a figurine of "other" scallops species without being marketed especifically as these. I mean, Pecten maximus is "the" generic scallop species, at least in Europe.

-Also it's the most heavily fished, farmed and sold one in seafood markets

-Scallops of the genus Pecten have one valve flat, the other strongly convex. By the photo, the Schleich scallop have clearly one valve strongly convex and it's resting on a flat opposite surface (not sure if the other valve or not). Compare with the images of Argopecten irradians below the photo, that as many other scallop genus, have both valves convex (and not so strongly as Pecten maximus)

-Schleich scallop is very pale (like the convex valve of Pecten maximus, the flat valve is reddish). Other scallops are often very variable in colour but rarely matches the typical colour of Pecten, what Schleich does.

-Pecten maximus have more wide and space radial ribs in the shell. Like in the Schleich figure. Other scallops, such as the Argopecten in the photos, have more numerous, thinner and more closely spaced ribs.

-Pecten is one of the few scallop genus whose auricles are symmetric. Right and left auricles botb have a square-shaped angle. This matches with Schleich figure. Also the proportion of auricles to the rest of the shell fits good. Argopecten have not very asymmetrical auricles, but they're not exactly symmetrical. The border of one is going more inwards and the other is more straight. Also, they are bigger in proportion to the rest of the shell than the ones from Pecten.

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Pardo, this is one of the best argumentations I ever red in this forum to justify a certain species identification. I clearly assumed your identification as (Pecten maximus) and used it at Toy Animal Wiki. cheers

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I've also searched for this scallop species and the St. James Scallop truly is the most generic scallop species in Europe.
So, I'm now also very sure, that this is Pecten maximus.
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The IC Salmon from Safari could be a Punk Salmon:

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