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PostSubject: Safari Ltd toobs 2020 LOW paint quality?   Safari Ltd toobs 2020 LOW paint quality? EmptyThu Feb 13, 2020 10:10 pm

I bought in 2019 the new apes Safari toob and I am very happy. When Safari announced Great Lake and South Africa toobs for 2020, these two toobs were immediately on my wishlist. But now I see on TAW the photos taken by Susanne and I am not sure... Some figures are really ugly painted, the worst is probably the zebra and giraffe. These are just like directly taken from the childrens dirty hands, colors were probably not properly dried... Anybody else here with personal experience with these 2020 toobs?

Zebra (no time to dry, v1)
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Giraffe (no time to dry, v2)
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PostSubject: Re: Safari Ltd toobs 2020 LOW paint quality?   Safari Ltd toobs 2020 LOW paint quality? EmptyThu Feb 13, 2020 10:18 pm

Hmm, - I am not sure they look so bad, when you are not that close up scratch
....except the lioness, - that is surely a disaster with those eyes !!!

They surely look a long way better than the previous toobs.

I planned to make a small "presentation" , but some family thing got in the way.
Hopefully the "thing" will pass, and I'll have time one of the next days Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Safari Ltd toobs 2020 LOW paint quality?   Safari Ltd toobs 2020 LOW paint quality? EmptyThu Feb 13, 2020 10:36 pm

are the giraffe and zebra textures? Meaning, are the spots and stripes impressed or embossed?

I can say the Great Lakes TOOB figures are very well painted
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PostSubject: Re: Safari Ltd toobs 2020 LOW paint quality?   Safari Ltd toobs 2020 LOW paint quality? EmptyThu Feb 13, 2020 10:40 pm

Honestly, I find them very good when compared with previous tubes under the same subject. Maybe Safari in these last years is putting very high our expectations.

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PostSubject: Re: Safari Ltd toobs 2020 LOW paint quality?   Safari Ltd toobs 2020 LOW paint quality? EmptyThu Feb 13, 2020 11:00 pm

I made this comparison a couple of days ago, - I really think it is an improvement Wink

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I am not sure what "impressed or embossed" means, but the spots and stripes are moulded.
It is like the models have been dipped in paint, and then wiped off, attempting to let the paint only stay in the lower parts , if you understand my bad English ? Embarassed

I think it is fairly ok for such small and relatively cheap models.

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PostSubject: Re: Safari Ltd toobs 2020 LOW paint quality?   Safari Ltd toobs 2020 LOW paint quality? EmptyThu Feb 13, 2020 11:28 pm

I have to say I was also disappointed when I saw Susanne's photos of the South African toob on TAW. I bought last year's Pelagic fish and dolphins toobs and they are very good. Photos of the primates toob also look good.

I can accept the lioness, perhaps it doesn't need a lot of paint, but it is as if something went wrong with the zebra and giraffe. As if they put the paint in the right places (on the stripes and spots), but as Jarda says, it is as if they didn't give it time to dry and the paint got smudged all over the animal. I am curious whether other toobs also have it or whether it is a (hopefully rare) production fault.

By the way, what is the height of the lioness?
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PostSubject: Re: Safari Ltd toobs 2020 LOW paint quality?   Safari Ltd toobs 2020 LOW paint quality? EmptyFri Feb 14, 2020 8:38 am

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what is the height of the lioness?

She is 3 cm at the hump of the shoulder . Smile

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.....something went wrong with the zebra and giraffe. As if they put the paint in the right places (on the stripes and spots), but as Jarda says, it is as if they didn't give it time to dry and the paint got smudged all over the animal.......

No, that is NOT what happened !
Take a look at the skin of the elephant :
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They have given him a thin coat of thin paint, and somehow wiping it off which leaves black in the wrinkels.

Same whith the giraffe and zebra :
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But it does not work so well with a contrasting colour. Wink

PS, sorry for the quality of these pictures. My camera does not work, so I have cut out from the small photos on TAI. Rolling Eyes Laughing

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Interesting. It seems that Safari isn't using the right painting method for the giraffe and zebra. Other animals in the same toob look OK. In particular, the hyena also has spots, but they are painted differently and it looks fine. Thanks for measuring the lioness, it's the right scale for me. Not sure whether it's worth buying the whole toob for, but perhaps I find her alone one day.
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PostSubject: Re: Safari Ltd toobs 2020 LOW paint quality?   Safari Ltd toobs 2020 LOW paint quality? EmptySat Feb 15, 2020 2:04 am

It looks like they're using a technique called antiquing; I've used it painting sculptures. You apply a thinned down coat of a contrasting paint over an already painted area, and wipe it off before it dries. If done properly, the glaze you just applied and wiped remains in the grooves or recessed areas, but has been totally removed from the rest of the area. It's best to put a protective glaze over the existing paint when you do it, or the antiquing tends to smudge that paint and stick inappropriately. That can also happen when you try to work too large an area, and the antiquing starts to dry before it's wiped off. I think the zebra and giraffe may have dried some before they were wiped, and the plastic probably wasn't sealed beforehand. It's probably rather difficult to do on such small figures. Really high contrast colors doesn't help. Probably not the best technique to use in an assembly line anyhow.
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It looks like they're using a technique called antiquing; I've used it painting sculptures. You apply a thinned down coat of a contrasting paint over an already painted area, and wipe it off before it dries. If done properly, the glaze you just applied and wiped remains in the grooves or recessed areas, but has been totally removed from the rest of the area. It's best to put a protective glaze over the existing paint when you do it, or the antiquing tends to smudge that paint and stick inappropriately. That can also happen when you try to work too large an area, and the antiquing starts to dry before it's wiped off. I think the zebra and giraffe may have dried some before they were wiped, and the plastic probably wasn't sealed beforehand. It's probably rather difficult to do on such small figures. Really high contrast colors doesn't help. Probably not the best technique to use in an assembly line anyhow.

Very intereting Kelly.

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It looks like they're using a technique called antiquing; I've used it painting sculptures. You apply a thinned down coat of a contrasting paint over an already painted area, and wipe it off before it dries. If done properly, the glaze you just applied and wiped remains in the grooves or recessed areas, but has been totally removed from the rest of the area. It's best to put a protective glaze over the existing paint when you do it, or the antiquing tends to smudge that paint and stick inappropriately. That can also happen when you try to work too large an area, and the antiquing starts to dry before it's wiped off. I think the zebra and giraffe may have dried some before they were wiped, and the plastic probably wasn't sealed beforehand. It's probably rather difficult to do on such small figures. Really high contrast colors doesn't help. Probably not the best technique to use in an assembly line anyhow.
That's what I was going to say! I think its a stylized version, probably because (on their facebook page) people often use their toob figures for home DIY projects like mini terrariums and things. I'd bet they are trying to appeal to the people with crafty tendencies.

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Grest explanation, Kelly Shocked

Thankyou VERY much ! cheers flower

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