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PostSubject: I need some help with my repaint..   Fri May 20, 2011 2:33 pm

Hey everyone!
I'm very busy with my new repaint: the andalusian stallion
I have changed his right fore leg and his head
But I still don't know any andalusian brands...
Does somebody know one?
Here are some pictures (he's not finished, this is only the basic paint)
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after 1st layer
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after 2nd layer
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On this picture you can see how far his leg had changed
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on this picture you can see how much his head has been changed
HIS COAT IS FINISHED!!
Here he is!
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PostSubject: Re: I need some help with my repaint..   Fri May 20, 2011 4:52 pm

I don´t understand what do you mean with andalusian brands :S

I also have this mold waiting for a new coat and I also blended his leg a bit ^^

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PostSubject: Re: I need some help with my repaint..   Fri May 20, 2011 10:20 pm

I love the way you have made the head flower

Are you looking for pictures of Andalusians ? If you searcg google you can find them under PRE, the new name of the breed (I learned it on this forum, - from Sylvia as far as I remember )

here are what I found on Danish Google :
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PostSubject: Re: I need some help with my repaint..   Sat May 21, 2011 9:25 am

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I love the way you have made the head flower

Are you looking for pictures of Andalusians ? If you searcg google you can find them under PRE, the new name of the breed (I learned it on this forum, - from Sylvia as far as I remember )

here are what I found on Danish Google :
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PRE is not a new name xD is the REAL name of the breed, Andalusian is only the popular name. In fact, calling them Andalusian is more common in foreign countries than in Spain! We call them "españoles" to short the name of the breed :)

SchleichHorsesForever, I understood you asked for help with coats, am I right? if you need help with coats I can tell you that PRE only have solid basic colors (black and bay, sometimes chestnut), cream (and pearl) dilutions, and grey. It is said now that PREs can carry the Dun gene, but this is not sure. Sometimes not honest breeders have crossed them with lusitanians to get diluted colors, and the Portuguese breed does carry that gen (Dun dilution). Actually chestnut PREs are becoming very popular, but it was few years ago when chestnut horses started to be accepted as purebreed horses, so lots of breeders are crossing horses who are family (do you call it "incrossing", don´t you?) to get that coat, so chestnut PREs aren´t really good horses. If you were asking for something different please tell me :)

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PostSubject: Re: I need some help with my repaint..   Sat May 21, 2011 11:32 am

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I love the way you have made the head  flower

Are you looking for pictures of Andalusians ? If you searcg google you can find them under PRE, the new name of the breed (I learned it on this forum, - from Sylvia as far as I remember )

here are what I found on Danish Google :
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PRE is not a new name xD is the REAL name of the breed, Andalusian is only the popular name. In fact, calling them Andalusian is more common in foreign countries than in Spain! We call them "españoles" to short the name of the breed :)

SchleichHorsesForever, I understood you asked for help with coats, am I right? if you need help with coats I can tell you that PRE only have solid basic colors (black and bay, sometimes chestnut), cream (and pearl) dilutions, and grey. It is said now that PREs can carry the Dun gene, but this is not sure. Sometimes not honest breeders have crossed them with lusitanians to get diluted colors, and the Portuguese breed does carry that gen (Dun dilution). Actually chestnut PREs are becoming very popular, but it was few years ago when chestnut horses started to be accepted as purebreed horses, so lots of breeders are crossing horses who are family (do you call it "incrossing", don´t you?) to get that coat, so chestnut PREs aren´t really good horses. If you were asking for something different please tell me :)

No, I mean a brand Wink he's already finished but I'm looking for a nice brand. It's difficult to explain in english, but you know it, it's [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

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PostSubject: Re: I need some help with my repaint..   Sat May 21, 2011 12:23 pm

AAAAhhhh, now I understand !
I don`t know the word in English either, - Burn-mark ? No... scratch

BTW it has become forbidden in Denmark from this year. They have to chip-mark them instead, which I think is a good thing.
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PostSubject: Re: I need some help with my repaint..   Sat May 21, 2011 2:22 pm

Are you talking about this horrible thing: ?evil:
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...or something that works like a signature of the work?
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PostSubject: Re: I need some help with my repaint..   Sat May 21, 2011 2:26 pm

Yep, that's branding Mad

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PostSubject: Re: I need some help with my repaint..   Sat May 21, 2011 4:55 pm

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AAAAhhhh, now I understand !
I don`t know the word in English either, - Burn-mark ? No... scratch

BTW it has become forbidden in Denmark from this year. They have to chip-mark them instead, which I think is a good thing.
in English we call it branding/brand mark :)

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PostSubject: Re: I need some help with my repaint..   Sat May 21, 2011 5:11 pm

Thank you, Harriet flower

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Are you talking about this horrible thing: ?evil:
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Yes, isn`t it awful ?
Imagine how it must hurt ! Not only immediately, but a long time after !
Humans can be SO cruel !!!!
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PostSubject: Re: I need some help with my repaint..   Sat May 21, 2011 5:26 pm

As far as I know, there is no specific brand for any of Iberian breeds. At least I've never heard of any. And I've never seen any photo of branded PRE - and I defninitely would if there was a brand for this breed.
Most of breed-specific brands are those of German breeds.

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PostSubject: Re: I need some help with my repaint..   Sun May 22, 2011 1:15 pm

Sure, there are! There are some brands that are very important. I hate branding horses, it must hurt a lot, I would never do that to my horses.

Let me find an article I saw about Spanish brands and I will post it here.

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PostSubject: Re: I need some help with my repaint..   Sun May 22, 2011 1:31 pm

Here is the web of one of the most important PRE breeders in the world: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. In the front page you can see the brand in the upper left corner. And in this link you can see a mini album of a stallion with that brand, that can be seen in a pair of photos: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] (click in "siguiente" to see next pic)


There´s another very important PRE breeder, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. It´s brand is El Bocado, here you can see a photo:

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There are lots of brands, but those 2 are the most important ones, the origins of the modern PRE are there :)


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PostSubject: Re: I need some help with my repaint..   Sun May 22, 2011 2:07 pm

Yeah, but those are breeders brands, not breed brands, like those of German breeds, such as [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] or [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], when horses are branded with the same pattern regardless of the breeder Wink

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PostSubject: Re: I need some help with my repaint..   Sun May 29, 2011 3:41 pm

I know, but that´s what we have. I think it´s better in this way, because you can know exactly where the horse was breeded.

Here you can see all the good Spanish breeders, and some foreigners : [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

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