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PostSubject: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:51 pm

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Last week I ordered some of Safari figurines. They're really difficult to find in Spain (impossible I'll say) Crying or Very sad and I bought them on ebay.

Of course I was guided with the pictures of the Safari web. But, what a disappointment when I received the figures. At least 3 of them the painting is very different from the ones of the web!!! Evil or Very Mad and the packaging (I don't know if that's the correct word) is not good. There are a kind of plastic between the legs of some animals that is not well-sized - or well adjusted-, and the legs become too separated.
I have to say too that there are another ones, like amebelodon, the manatee ant the Arabian orix that are really beautiful.

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- coyote: after remove the plastic between the legs seems the animal is ice skating Sad The painting of the face seems a cartoon, different from the Safari web one because there are no degraded colours scratch take a look:

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- snow leopard: the same about the face. The detail is not the same of the one of the picture:

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- grizzly bear. Take a look to the painting of the fur in the web and the colour of my figure. It have no texture. Maybe is a problem on the photo, but I think not:

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Now I will repaint some of them, I suppose, but what to do with the legs? Is it safe to use the dryer to arrange the legs position?

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:05 pm

I'm sorry some of your new models were disappointing Joan, it is horrible when that happens, catalogue pictures can be terribly misleading sometimes.
You could try the hair dryer technique with the coyote's legs, it might work, but see what others say first.

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:04 pm

Sorry about your problem Joan Crying or Very sad
I don't think that you could solve the coyote's problem with a hairdryer, it looks that legs are widely set in body, if you use a dryer and make paws closer to each other - you will just bend the legs and make them arched, it won't work on elbow area

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:41 pm

Sorry to hear that you were so disapointed. Ohh, it hurts so much when one has looked forward to the package, and then...Mad

I agree with Robert. Unfortunately that is the way it is made .
The plastic "thing" they stand in is there to keep it that way. Papo has them also.

It seems that the one who painted your figueres has been very lavish with the eyeliner...but I still think they are wonderful figueres scratch Rolling Eyes

Try to take a look tomorrow, perhaps you like them better then. Especially the bear is gorgeous, I think Wink

Anyway, - CONGRATULATIONS with your new Safari-figueres. At least some of them were great and no disappointment flower
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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:29 pm

Thank you friends for your words in that sad moments Shocked Cool Very Happy lol!
fortunately I think can be fixed. I tried to move coyote's legs and the result is not bad. I put the legs in the correct position with some strings and pieces of wood, I applied the air dryer and now, I suppose I must wait but I don't know how many time will be necessary for the figure. Any idea?
Tomorrow (or maybe tonight if my son go to bed soon Wink ) I will begin painting.
Kindest regards! geek flower

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:41 pm

Joan, I'm also sorry with your disapointment! But this is something usual in collectors life, I think! :)
I love some of my Safari figures but the finish touch is really poor in most part of them. It looks they try to work faster than other brands, in finish touch they have surely the last place in main brands! The bear is a great sculpting, I already had it in my hands and I think it is a nice figure.
Some of us are learning that Safari updates often the paintwork and older versions are really poor, they also updates the pictures of the catalogues but if the old version is available they will send you that one.
This is not great for the brand. Another question is that Safari retouch the pictures of the catalogue because they know that it is important to sell, but CollectA also makes it and unless in 2010 catalogue retouched pictures are worst than the figures. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:57 pm

See the elk, the same figure in 2010 and 2011 catalogues.

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:57 pm

I know what you meant, Joan. As you know, I collect horses, and some of the Safari models looks really beautiful in the catalogue. I´m lucky because there´s a shop near my home where I can find some (very few) Safari models, so I was able to have a look. What a dissapointing thing was to discover most of the models weren´t as beautiful as in the catalogue! Oh, they really know how to photograph them, with the correct angle to hide the anatomical deffects. So now I look for pics of all possible angles before buying any Safari figurine without having seen it myself.

I was going to send yo a message about the legs correction, but I see you solved it great :) I can´t wait to see your repaintings!

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:14 pm

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Thank you friends for your words in that sad moments Shocked Cool Very Happy lol!
fortunately I think can be fixed. I tried to move coyote's legs and the result is not bad. I put the legs in the correct position with some strings and pieces of wood, I applied the air dryer and now, I suppose I must wait but I don't know how many time will be necessary for the figure. Any idea?
Tomorrow (or maybe tonight if my son go to bed soon Wink ) I will begin painting.
Kindest regards! geek flower

the best is to put the coyote in very very cold water( with ice ) after bending Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:00 pm

Thank you Silvia and Roger, Now I know that about Safari.
Thanks for the tip Christophe, I will try that this evening :)

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:07 pm

Kikimalou wrote:

the best is to put the coyote in very very cold water( with ice ) after bending Wink

Ice! What a great idea :)

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:55 pm

I have tried to bend multiple figurines and most return to their initial pose.
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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:07 pm

One of my friend bended Schleich lioness (turned her head) by heating her near the candle, which is much hotter than the air from hairdryer, and then put her in cold water. The lioness keeps her new pose for 1,5 year now :)

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:49 pm

Most, not all! Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:21 pm

Maybe it depends on the material Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:16 pm


Wildheart wrote:
I have tried to bend multiple figurines and most return to their initial pose.

NOT..NOT...MY procedure is:

I put water to hot, up to a boil.
In other vessel ,I put water, with enough ices.
then I put into the boiling water, part of the animal I want to bend,
I wait 25 seconds.
in a fast-moving,out animal, hold the folded ,and put in water with ice. I wait other 25 seconds.
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all my animals.
The Most dificult animal was "noah pals"
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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:07 pm

Don´t you burn yourself when touching the boiled part? Doesn´t the rubber get deformed where you aply pressure in order to bend it?

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:33 pm

What I do is, put the hair dryer on the model until the plastic is bendable, then when I get it into the position I want I put it under cold water for a few seconds.

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:34 pm

Hi Joan! You are not alone in your disappointment! Laughing Wink It,s good known problem - on the brand site we see the best painting of models... My grizzly model has painting like your figurine.

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:09 am

Thank you for your tips friends! I think I'll try the hot water - cold water sistem. But is itnecessary to boil the water or only very hot Cool ? One think that surprised me when I try to work with the hair dryer is that the painting was OK, I thought that something horrible will happen Razz
And thank you for your words Sergey, I'm not so alone now Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:18 am

I used the same method as Harriet on some CollectAs and Schleichs and they returned to their original pose... No
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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:52 am

Wildheart wrote:
I used the same method as Harriet on some CollectAs and Schleichs and they returned to their original pose... No
all the one's I've done so far have kept their pose scratch

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:59 am

Hi Joan! it happens to my grizzly bear too! the catalogue look so good with different layer of depth of same colour. But when I saw it I nearly fainted and realised the colour is just too flat.

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:25 pm

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Don´t you burn yourself when touching the boiled part? Doesn´t the rubber get deformed where you aply pressure in order to bend it?

I let the water boil. I use tweezers to place the animal in the water.
I put my fingers in cold water before bending the animal and so prevent burning.
Press and hold the animal in cold water to harden, it is necessary in large animals, because the weight can bend your legs and it fall.

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PostSubject: Baltimore zoo   Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:24 pm

Hey Sergey, I like how you have the Papo bears sparring. Have you thought about repainting one brown, to have a "brown phase" black bear?
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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:44 pm

Well, I tried with a candle and wather with ice and the result is awesome!

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:59 pm

Hello, friends. I just tried the boiling/cold water system. Later I will post fotos. Also I have painted the animals I didn't like XD

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:17 pm

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Hello, friends. I just tried the boiling/cold water system. Later I will post fotos. Also I have painted the animals I didn't like XD
look forward to seeing them Joan! bounce

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:14 pm

Oh, I've found Joan!!! affraid
I'm eager to see your repaintings! :)
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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:39 pm

Well, here are the repaintings.

First the coyote. is the one I'm happier with. Now he don't seems a fox :) I repainted not only the face, also some parts of the body, making him darker and with more grey fur. The pity is the photos anre not good. I'm sorry Embarassed

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Now the grizzly bear. It's not finished yet, I only worked on the fur, but I'll repaint the face too:

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And finally the snow leopard. I tried to work in the spots. Also in the eyes colouration.

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:53 pm

They're lovely repaints Joan, the coyote looks wonderful! cheers cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:05 pm

That is fabulous, Joan !!!!

The coyote really looks like a coyote now - wonderful job !

And the snow leopard has got the real catty, dangerous face now cat

I can`t wait till you have finished the bear, it already looks so much more real.

For years pepole have re-painted horse models, - it looks like a good idea to also repaint other animal models.
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PostSubject: Baltimore zoo   Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:09 pm

I really like the coyote paint job!
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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:23 pm

Great work with the coyot! :)
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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:37 pm

thank you very much friends cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:41 pm

Wonderful repaints Joan ~ such talent. I can see why the Grizzly bear looked so flat before the repaint because they didn't do any shading to show the definition.

Were you happy with the results of the heat and ice reforming the legs of your animals?
I too have tried just hot water and ice, but the legs went back to what they were.
I have a very old Schleich appaloosa with a twisted front leg that I want to fix...

I appreciate everyone sharing how they correct problem figures ~ you are all such a great group of people!


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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:29 pm

The coyote is so beautiful, I love it!

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:05 pm

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Hey Sergey, I like how you have the Papo bears sparring. Have you thought about repainting one brown, to have a "brown phase" black bear?

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:09 pm

[quote="Abu Rai"]Well, here are the repaintings.

First the coyote. is the one I'm happier with. Now he don't seems a fox :) I repainted not only the face, also some parts of the body, making him darker and with more grey fur. The pity is the photos anre not good. I'm sorry Embarassed

...Congrats Joan! The repainting of coyote is above of all praises! cheers cheers
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PostSubject: Baltimore zoo   Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:50 pm

Your welcome! That way with one bear brown and one black, and positioned correctly, will give the illusion that it's two different bear figures!
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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:28 pm

Great job on the coyote!
Of course, to make a really accurate looking coyote, you'd have to give him little spindly legs and make him look like he's got mange. We have coyotes pretty regularly in my neighborhood and they always look a mess.
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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:42 pm

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First the coyote. is the one I'm happier with. Now he don't seems a fox :) I repainted not only the face, also some parts of the body, making him darker and with more grey fur. The pity is the photos anre not good. I'm sorry Embarassed

Could you spare a picture from the front, I'm very interested in result of bending those legs...

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:02 am

Robert, I've been meaning to tell you how much I love your dog in your profile. He/she? is gorgeous!
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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:28 am

Thanks, she's a bomb Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:28 am

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Well, here are the repaintings.

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Wow! I realize this thread is long over, but the coyote repaint especially is just fantastic (they are all great though). If you do happen to see this, I would love to know what sorts of paints you used (type, brands, and any other details) . That would be an enormous help to me as I'm also considering trying to perform some repaints as well.

Thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:53 am

Ohhh Shocked

What a fantastic repaint cheers

It is just great to re-open a good subject, thankyou for the beautyful picture, Smile Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:16 am

ponlo en lo caliente, ni tanto asi como en el carro dentro.

le pones una liga, y luego los pones en el refrigidador.

hasta ke veas que esta en su posicion, asi le he hecho para mayor resultados,, repetir lo mismo.

put rubber around legs, put into freezer, repite the same untill results apply-in, well.study
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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:55 pm

Well that definitely confirms that when I sell my CollectA I am going to use real photos and NOT catalog ones.... Also Joan I have access to most Safari here in the States and I would be happy to hand pick some for you :)
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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:11 pm

Safari ltd's often have those "paintjobs made by 6-year-olds"-like problems. For example, I felt lots of disappointment when, last summer, I received my Inostrancevia. In the catalog, it seems like the paint underlines well the textures of the skin. But when I received it, I saw it was just a random yellow figure with sprayed brown paint on it... plus silly brown lines around the eyes and between the toes. Bleah. Fortunately, the mold is perfect. But the paint job... well, it is just as cheaply made as any ordinary chinasaur. No
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PostSubject: Re: Disappointed with some of the Safari figurines I received   Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:14 pm

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Abu Rai wrote:
Well, here are the repaintings.

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Wow! I realize this thread is long over, but the coyote repaint especially is just fantastic (they are all great though). If you do happen to see this, I would love to know what sorts of paints you used (type, brands, and any other details) . That would be an enormous help to me as I'm also considering trying to perform some repaints as well.

Thanks!
a thread well worth reopening! i'd forgotten about this lovely repaint. such a beautiful coyote!
Joan, did you finish the bear? i don't recall seeing photos.

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