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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:34 pm

[ quote = "Wild Heart " ] Wow ! The diorama is awesome ! My favorites are the canary and the bamboo reeds !
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WH, Thanks for the complement, I like the canary reeds and bamboo as well, the Asian bamboo that I got from Danny is really nice, but I did not get a good close up of it , the ones I made were from the Japanese kits That I buy. On the banana I'll get a better picture , the flash washed out the plants , but the trunks are folded thin clay that is wrapped around the trunks to simulate the dead leaves that make up the " bark "of the banana tree. In person and some of the earlier pics, (look in the custom animal figures forum under some plants that I made) you can see it better. It is my photography skills that are the problem, I love my camara, but it is new and I do not know how to use it , I am using these as practice because it is my camara and dive until I can get back in the water I need to use it as much as possible .


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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:37 pm

Your Diorama is looking brilliant !

I love the little bird by the bamboo.
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:43 pm

Looking great Phil, all the trees and bushes on the raised up area look fantastic.
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:09 am

I began to add plants and while doing so I looked at the Magic Water. On the mini diorama I added the water last, but the directions to Magic Water say to add it first because of wicking. For those of you who don't know what wicking is take a glass of water, put a piece of cloth and hang the cloth over the side of the glass and in a few hours there will be water on the table. What happens is the cloth absorbs the water and it slowly rises up and over the rim of the glass until the cloth is completely wet, or wicking. So with that in mind, I added the Magic water, and let it dry for two days. I didn't take a picture of it, but in the next few photos you can see some of the river and the shine of the water.

What I did do was to start adding the smaller plants to teh upper areas of the raised river bank. There will be one big tree up there, either the banyon tree from the mini dio, or a strangler fig that isn't here yet. This first photo is of the cattails and you can see the water in the back.
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:13 am

It is looking awesome Phil. The palm trees are great and the water and cattails look great.
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:53 pm

Great rocks and plants! And water looks excellent I love you Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:09 pm

Wow Phil, it's really coming to life! The water is fantastic, so real looking and I love the plants, everything is awesome!
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:09 am

I wish I was there to see it in real life!It would be a dream come true! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:43 am

I started putting plants on the Indian dio, the water is fully cured and looks good so I added rocks, I didn't put them into the water like I did on the mini dio because I may want it to look deeper so I can have elephants swimming in it, and I have already planned on a wild water buffalo almost fully submerged so I want to be able to move the rocks around, or maybe even take them all out.

Here are some pictures of the raised river bank as it looks now, I have not attached any of the plants permanently so I have the option of moving things around, in fact in some of the photos you may notice things missing or added, once I am ready to put the animals on I will glue the plants down.

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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:13 am

It looks brilliant! I really love the water, everything is really coming along beautifully. I like the idea of an elephant in the water.
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:21 am

Congratulation Phil, I can see the Indian dio is on its way Very Happy

Could you tell me where are the Japanese plants and/or leaves ?
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:21 pm

[ quote = " Kikimalou "] Congratulation Phil, I can see the Indian dio is on its way: D

Could you tell me where are the Japanese plants and / or leaves ? [ / quote ]

Kiki,
I am not sure what you mean, if you are asking where I buy them, I get them from Miniature Military Warehouse. There is another online store over in europe that has them as well, TASCA MODELLISMO CO, LTD that also sells them for about the same price (around $10-15USD per set), but those are the only two online shops I have found that carry all of the kits.

If you mean which ones are the Japanese kits in the photos, in the first photo the only one is the canary reeds by the monkeys, in photo two there are some ferns near the roots of the banyon tree, photo 3 and 4 the palms, philodendrons and the light colored bamboo are all kits. The other plants are either from Danny (the dark bamboo on the raised bank toward the back) or ones I made myself (the vine, the cattails and the bananas).

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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:27 pm

[ quote = " HKHollinstone "] It looks brilliant! I really love the water , everything is really coming along beautifully. I like the idea of an elephant in the water.
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Thanks Harriet, I still have some work to do on the bank, fill in the spaces between the bank and the rock, and add the dirt to all of the spaces between the rocks, things like that.

My initial idea was to have a really deep river and just the top of the elephants head and back would be visible. After actually making the dio, I realize the river is too small to look good so I will have 2/3rds of then sticking out of the water as they bathe. I also was going to just have the head and shoulders visible on the wild Asian waterbuffalo, now I will have about half of one out of the water, that way the depth appears much more realistic in the size of the dio.
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:40 pm

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[ quote = " Kikimalou "] Congratulation Phil, I can see the Indian dio is on its way: D

Could you tell me where are the Japanese plants and / or leaves ? [ / quote ]

If you mean which ones are the Japanese kits in the photos, in the first photo the only one is the canary reeds by the monkeys, in photo two there are some ferns near the roots of the banyon tree, photo 3 and 4 the palms, philodendrons and the light colored bamboo are all kits. The other plants are either from Danny (the dark bamboo on the raised bank toward the back) or ones I made myself (the vine, the cattails and the bananas).

Hope that answered your question.

You answered Phil, thank you very much Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:35 pm

Looks awesome Phil. Keep the pictures coming.
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:31 pm

Wow, these photos show really amazing diorama. I can't wait to see the final effect, but what is done now-is very pretty Very Happy Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:45 pm

Thanks everyone for the compliments and thoughts. I have added 15 more stalks of simon's bamboo, and started to do the grass flats. I have made a "game trail "right up to the river , I am not sure if I like it or not , but it is easy to add grass over the trail. When I was looking at it on the model I liked it, but now that I see the photos I am not sure. IMO it is too streight but when out in the animal nature trails are as streight as they can be, easier for animals to get to and from places where there is no cover.

I also have several new birds , Danny is sending me two species of hornbills , and I am talking to Ana about a couple of species that I want her to make with the next set of animals that I am ordering. There will be species from both Africa and Asia , so there will be things to see in the near future. I am not putting up the animals like I do on the African dio because right now it is not on the table where it is going permanently.

Here are two photos of the new grass, and I think there are a few new plants that I made that may be visible in the photos as well.


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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:54 pm

It looks like the sandy river edges where me and my family used to go picknick!
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:11 pm

Looks wonderful! I really like the worn pathway to the river.
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:23 pm

[ quote = "Wild Heart "] It looks like the sandy river edges where me and my family used to go picnic !
Great work! : Face : [ / quote ]
WH, I modled it after a creek by my house, on the east side is a raised bank with a fallen tree that is still growing and on the west is a rock/mud/dirt bank with shoreline plants growing. I live in the mountains so the plants are very different then a tropical habitat, but the idea was from nature.

By the way, I posted the photos of some animals you asked about for trade or sale, so take a look.
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:40 pm

Wow, i love the trees! they look great!!
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:39 pm

I like the path Phil. It is coming together very good.
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:06 am

I decided that the game trail was too wide, so I added grass to it and thinned it out. I also extended it as when I get more grass I will add more to the earth at the front of the diorama.

Here are two photos of the new trail, and one of the banyon tree in it's most probable place.

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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:49 am

I agree the path looks better smaller.
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:23 am

Grass, water, trees-everything looks beautiful Very Happy Thank You for photos and can't wait for more cat
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:24 pm

Great Phil Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:04 pm

I added some more plants, and took a couple of pics of the new additions. I doubled the canary reeds, made some horsetail reeds from clay and added some more grass. Here are the pics, hope you like them.

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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:20 pm

The more plants, the better ! Very Happy

This horsetails are a really good idea, I think you need more. What are the plants just behind them ?

The japanese bamboos look great all together.
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:40 pm

[ quote = " Kikimalou "] The more plants, the better! : D

This horsetails are a really good idea, I think you need more. What are the plants just behind them?

The japanese bamboos look great all together. [ / quote ]

I don't know the name, but they are a tropical ground cover. The kit had them in it, so I put them on the dio, I'm not sure I like them there, on the mini dio they were actually in the water as a shoreline plant. I didn't take a picture yet, I'll get one today and post it, but now there is a big group of canary reeds between the small plants and the river bank so it looks a little better to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:54 pm

Looks really nice Phil.
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:40 pm

It looks awesome Phil. Can't wait to see it with animals on it.
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:47 pm

I took a few more pictures today, and I tried an experiment-my first home made vines. In the dio pictures I have almost finished the grass, I need some filler grass, and to remove any strieght lines, things like that. I have also put all of the dirt down, which doesn't prohibit anything, the dirt is glued to the green mat and I can glue anything I want onto it. I also need to start the tropical part of the dio, I have the banyon tree for the back corner, and a strangler fig that will be here next month, I am still looking for several medium sized plants and bushes, but Danny is looking for some he has and I have a blue clock vine being made for the raised river bank. Just wait for next month, I met a lady who does scale gardens in clay and asked her if she ever did tropical plants. Fortunatly for me she does, and she is making me two plants, the common or red water lotus and the blue clock vine. I can't wait to show pictures of them as I have seen her water lilies and lotus plants in a 1:12 water garden diorama that she did. For me she is doing 1:22 so it will fit in my diorama.

Well, here are the dio pictures, the last photo is the vine just attached to a tree I sculpted but haven't added any foliage, but it should give you the idea of what it will look like once I put it on the dio, probably on or near the river bank.
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:00 pm

Looks great Phil. The reeds look awesome and so does the vine. The third picture, the close up around the water, looks amazing. It is really coming together fast.
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:59 pm

Yes,the last 2 pictures jumped into my eyes imedeatly!Awesome river banks!
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:11 am

I put the vine on the banyon tree, This is probably where it will go permanently, but I don't have to glue it, I just wrap it around the loose hanging roots and branches so I can move it without damaging the banyon, which is one of my favorite trees in the collection.

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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:33 am

Will already look very good, Phil, keep it up! cheers :)
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:50 am

Philter4 wrote:
I put the vine on the banyon tree, This is probably where it will go permanently, but I don't have to glue it, I just wrap it around the loose hanging roots and branches so I can move it without damaging the banyon, which is one of my favorite trees in the collection.

Here is the photo of the new vine

Very good Phil, what an ornament for a so wonderful tree ! And it is a good thing you don't need glue. I understand you don't want to damage the Banyan if one day you change your mind.
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:27 am

Wow Phil, it looks beautiful. I love the ferns under the Banyon tree and the vine looks really good.
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:22 pm

Here is the final picture of the vine, I have added a lot more foliage, thinned the root system and spread it out into the tree. This was harder then it sounds as the branches are not glued so everytime I thougt is was perfect I would let go and some parts would stick up and out and it wasn't pretty. I got it where I want it, I think, but even if I am not happy I can remove it or change the position without any trouble.

Here is the photo as it will stand on the diorama, for now I like it, but I have to get it on the dio and take some pictures to look at closer.
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:14 am

It is better with more leaves Phil ! Can't wait to see the banyan and vine on the dio.
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:05 am

It looks fabulous!
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:34 pm

It looks very nice!Ana can create a small galago to fit on them!Or a tree snake!
Will you add an Indian rhino,too?I love those elusive animals!

I have one more quetion,Phil.The diorama is part of a plain(forest edge) or a woodland.Will you add more trees?The banian looks like it is 100 years old,and it should be surrounded by at least some other taller bushes or plants(fox-tail palms,orcid trees,etc).
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:03 pm

[ quote = "Wild Heart "] It looks very nice! Ana can create a small galago to fit on them! Or a tree snake!
Will you add an Indian rhino , too I love those elusive animals!

I have one more quetion , Phil.The diorama is part of a plain ( forest edge) or a woodland.Will you add more trees? The banian looks like it is 100 years old, and it should be surrounded by at least some other taller plants or bushes (fox -tail palms , orcid trees, etc ). [ / quote ]

Wild Heart, I will have several species of birds in the trees and near the water, the only reptile I have planned for sure is a pr of gharial one, in the water with just the top of the head visible, the other basking on the rocks. I have some bank Indain rhino , and I plan to have them on the audio, but the final display depends on several things including how they look when I take the photos.

As far as more plants , I have not started the tropical part of the dio . The scrub , which is where the Indian spotted deer herd will be feeding, will have some ground plants in the grass , and the river edge will also have several types of palms and banana plants growing on the banks along with the reeds and bushes , but One thing to remember is the African dio has taken more then 18 months to get to the point it is now, and this diorama is 1/3rd bigger. I think it will be at least 18 months to finish and I have only been working on it for 3 months now. I have a lot of work to do before it is ready to be called done, and the last things to go up will be the tropical plants and flowers that will be in the tropical section. I have the Banyon here , and I have a strangler fig that is big that will be here in August, but those are the only two trees I have so far for the tropical forest. I, am looking for a species of tree that is big enough for the colony of painted storks with their nests . As of now I am thinking of eight adults on the tree , but that may change as the diorama gets more crowded or space dictates the tree I am looking for must be smaller.


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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:44 pm

Do not missunderstand me!The whole arrangement is great!
I just wanted to create an image of the project!

A tiger stalking the deer...
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:41 am

The tree and vine look awesome Phil.
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PostSubject: Subject: Re: Full size Indian diorama    Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:11 pm

Phil congratulations for your work, awesome making your diorama with the various steps quite wonderful realism with the addition of your remarkable animals. Thank cheers bounce Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:28 pm

I have been busy, not only did I make some vines there is a ground flower from India that I tried to make, I can't remember it's name, but it is now a common garden ground cover here in the USA. Here are the photos, I am going to make about twice as many as there are on the second picture, the whole area under the bananas will be filled to the grass with a big group of them. They are not easy to make, I make them from scratch, cutting and gluing the shapes of the flower, then adding the foliage and gluing the flowers to the plant. It took me about 2 hours to do the 30 flowers that are on the dio now, but toward the end I was much quicker and I have cut a lot of petals that I can use to make the next set which will save a lot of time.

The first photo is a single group on my shop desk, the second is the 3 groups on the diorama.
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:39 pm

Beautiful flowers Phil, and I like to see a lot of plants together as you know. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:12 am

They're beautiful Phil!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Full size Indian diorama   Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:32 am

We have many of those flowers living in Bucharest(either on flower beds or balconies).
They're name is ''panseluţă''.There is also a wild species I have met in the forest,which is a lot smaller.
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