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PostSubject: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:51 am

Hello dear collector friends,
I got some new animal figurines, I was told they are Plaho/Marolin. Since most models of Plaho I still know from my childhood and now they do not. The Giant turtle and the American buffalo would be of Plaho or Marolin. I wanted to ask you, perhaps you know, whether the two Elephants models are of Plaho/MAROLIN or which manufacturer?
Many thanks to you. Wink Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:31 am

oh they are really lovely Ralf, congratulations cheers I can't help you identify the elephants though

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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:52 am

Your English is very, very good, - of course we understand you !!!!

I am no expert, but the Turtle is from VEB-Plaho, that is for sure.
And the elafants are not, - but you know that already scratch
For those who don`t the Plaho elefants look like this

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Yours are of a better quality, I am sure somebody knows what they are.

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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:22 pm

Thanks Harriet and Susanne :)

I know the "old" elephant from Plaho and these I have already very long also, but I've got these other two as Plaho / MAROLIN. Suspect
That made me a bit puzzled, because I've never seen this before from Plaho. drunken
Especially notable was the all Plaho / MAROLIN-animal models are made ​​with a two-part form, these two elephants have to the ears to form a third part. So there is no Plaho elephants? arrow question Neutral

Here still a size comparison with the "known" Elephants of Plaho:
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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Sat Jul 16, 2011 3:22 pm

Whatever they are, they are beautyful, well sculptured elefants Very Happy

I like them a lot cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Sat Jul 16, 2011 3:52 pm

Ralf, very nice animals. I think, the turtle is Plaho or Marolin and i believe, the american buffalo too. But the elephants i never see. You can ask Plahotiere, he made a catalogue.
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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Sat Jul 16, 2011 7:41 pm

Great photos of everything! Thanks for posting, the combined photos of all of the elephants is fantastic.
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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:38 am

Great new models Ralf!
It is not easy sometimes...
The giant turtle was made by VEB Plaho, but this company took over Marolin, and before Marolin took over Lineol... Rolling Eyes
So the mould can be from one of them, mostly Lineol in the best models.
I recognize one of the elephant models to be one model of Domplast, which was a ??German manufacturer from the 1950's and 1960's, but they have common models to, and i really don't know, which one took the model from who... Laughing
I just had it in my hand stonight, as i re-arranged my vitrines, and came to the one-coloured items of the old German brands...

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Afterwards i saw that it was different to the model you showed, but it has similarities... Rolling Eyes
They are for sure no VEB Plaho's, as their range was limited...
so maybe a copy of another German brand...

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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:00 pm

Hello together,

the turtle and the buffalo was made by Marolin, the elephants ? maybe Domplast ... (I am not really sure)

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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:45 pm

Aaaargh affraid

It seems that I have been well fooled. I bought the turtle and the bison for being VEB Plaho Neutral

Well, that is maybe ok, but I don`t like to be a fool. And now I have to revise a chunk of my web-site No
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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:02 pm

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Aaaargh affraid

It seems that I have been well fooled. I bought the turtle and the bison for being VEB Plaho Neutral

Well, that is maybe ok, but I don`t like to be a fool. And now I have to revise a chunk of my web-site No

Susanne, i think it was not a intent. I also dont know, which GDR animals are VEB Plaho and which Marolin. Same time, same country. And i think, it wasnt ever right written of the paper in the package (it was Marolin, but written was Plaho). But i cant remember this. And if you dont have this small paper, everybody dont konw this really right, i am too. After 1991 you became all GDR animals without package by Karstadt, and so comes the mistakes. I sale also my GDR animals as VEB Plaho, that is the manufacture that i remember. By Marolin i heared 2009, and than i remeber me a lttle bit. Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:33 pm

Ohhh, - Thankyou, you do me many favours today, - now I am happy again... Laughing

So I don`t need to re-make my web-site, but perhaps write a comment at the top ? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:56 pm

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Ohhh, - Thankyou, you do me many favours today, - now I am happy again... Laughing

So I don`t need to re-make my web-site, but perhaps write a comment at the top ? scratch

What you mean, which top?? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:15 pm

Ohh, soory, - I mean the top of the pages Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:31 pm

Hi everybody...

To the history of the VEB Plaho (plastic and wood).

The company was founded from Richard Mahr (about 1900). Cradle figures from mass (Marolin) were produced. One began with the plastic revolution with the production to plastic animals. Lineol went bankrupt, Mahr bought up many figures of it. In 1970 the company, like most in the GDR, was expropriated. Then the company was called VEB Marolin plastic. Then the company was renamed as VEB Plaho BT8 (company part eight) and became a part of the VEB Plaho. Then the company was completely integrated to the VEB Plaho. After the case of the wall in Germany, the former owners, namely the family Mahr got back her property. Ruined and many figures broken. Today, therefore, some are so expensive. The communists hardly repaired what was defective, was just defective.
The company became again the Mahr GmbH and produced some time still the plastic figures (Marolin).

The two figures "giant turtle/tortoise" and "buffalo" were made after 1990...(after the case of the german wall).
So is it correct, if some say, they are not from VEB Plaho.

affraid some shocking things affraid all figures are from Marolin affraid Marolin and VEB Plaho are the same affraid Marolin and VEB Plaho are different factories affraid VEB Plaho BT8 and Marolin are the same affraid VEB Plaho made not new figures affraid all known figures were made from Marolin affraid ...and so on... affraid ...only playing with words... Sleep


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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:40 pm

[quote="effelderboy"]Hi everybody...

To the history of the VEB Plaho (plastic and wood).

Thank you for the informations!! I dont know this and it is very interesting!!! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:51 am

Thankyou, Thomas flower

Laughing No wonder I can`t find out what is really what, - I think I will use Torsten`s catalogue and print out what you wrote here...and then on a long, dark winter evening I will try to concentrate..auch! auch! geek

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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:25 pm

It is not so heavy... bounce bounce bounce
You must think: The real owner of Marolin was and is Richard Mahr (and his family). Only 20 years in the GDR were the owners "the peoples of east germany" Mad Mad Mad . And in this time the figures were the same, only the name of the factory was VEB Plaho. Laughing Laughing Laughing After 1990 the name Marolin come back and the old owner also. Basketball Basketball Basketball
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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:37 pm

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It is not so heavy... bounce bounce bounce
You must think: The real owner of Marolin was and is Richard Mahr (and his family). Only 20 years in the GDR were the owners "the peoples of east germany" Mad Mad Mad . And in this time the figures were the same, only the name of the factory was VEB Plaho. Laughing Laughing Laughing After 1990 the name Marolin come back and the old owner also. Basketball Basketball Basketball

Ahhh Shocked
Now I understand Laughing Laughing Laughing cheers

Looking at it in that way, it really was "only" 20 yers.
In my mind it seems like always Neutral

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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:31 pm

Here some fotos of packages...

...a very very old package...one of the first...(Richard Mahr - Marolin Plastic)

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...a very old package...

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...a old package (VEB Marolin Plastic) from the expropriation time...

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...from VEB Plaho, the Expropriation was completed...

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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:16 pm

That is fantastic !!!

What a collection Shocked

Thanks for sharing Very Happy flower
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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:33 am

We have to be greatfull having a member as Thomas here, who can explain this history of the company.
I knew already, since i was collecting them already for a while, and had the catalogue which was mentioned before... Laughing
The GDR or DDR times made it complicated...
The fact that the gouvernment named it "VEB" , which means VolksEigener Betrieb, which means Company of the people is a statement which came out of the communistic sights of the gouvernment at that time...
Nobody of the people owned the company of course, or even had parts in it..., it was just simply confiscated by the state... Shocked
Thankfully, the original situation was restored after the fall of the wall...
Again, because the Mahr(Marolin) company bought a lot of the Lineol moulds in the past, because of the bankruptcy of the Lineol company, they were able and allowed to make the same models, only in plastic, instead of composition. Cool

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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:41 am

At first many thanks dear collector friends Very Happy !

Willy, you're right and thanks to Thomas.
It was hard (or impossible?) e.g. the dinosaurs get in the GDR, as they were intended for export to foreign countries much .... I've seen this in my childhood never to buy.

I think the Lineol animal models have been used only as a template for its own models, this are, I think, a little smaller.
Were these from Julius Weigelt new formed following the example of the Lineol models?
How Thomas said, produces and sells MAROLIN the models after to the communist era, but many of the Plaho models yet to be offered very low prices (e.g. ebay...) that MAROLIN has now stopped production and now sells theirs remainders still.... this is a great pity Crying or Very sad !

By the way I think has Willy sure right, the Elephants are certainly from Domplast, at least the Asian Elephant (perhaps has something to big ears), the Elephant of Willy´s picture could be the Baby...or? I saw this at ebay as white model by Domplast.
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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:23 pm


Thanks Willy...

"...Nobody of the people owned the company of course, or even had parts in it..., it was just simply confiscated by the state..."
Thatswhy I´m not very proud of the VEB and also VEB Plaho...

The VEB Plaho don´t made new things, they destroyed good factories. The quality and the painting were always worse. What broke, was not repaired. The factory was moved to wear.
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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:52 pm

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Thanks Willy...

"...Nobody of the people owned the company of course, or even had parts in it..., it was just simply confiscated by the state..."
Thatswhy I´m not very proud of the VEB and also VEB Plaho...

The VEB Plaho don´t made new things, they destroyed good factories. The quality and the painting were always worse. What broke, was not repaired. The factory was moved to wear.

But they also produceed for west germany. I remember, our friends found the animals in a Quelle- catalogue.
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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:32 pm

Thank you so much for this information! Very interesting and seeing them in their original packaging really helps.

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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:01 pm

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But they also produceed for west germany. I remember, our friends found the animals in a Quelle- catalogue.


That is correct. cheers cheers


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Even earlier they were selling not only the figures as "No Name", also packaged really great.
And measured as a postscript to the "only 20 years," these 20 years were at the initial production and until 1990, but also very long.


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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:26 pm

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Even earlier they were selling not only the figures as "No Name", also packaged really great.
And measured as a postscript to the "only 20 years," these 20 years were at the initial production and until 1990, but also very long.




What6 a great collection. I remember me on my childhood. I was very happy if i become a "new" animal. But i never find in a shop the ostrich. An then, the seller in a shop give me a gift from himself- the ostrich.
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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:46 pm

Yes, the ostrich is really very nice, and a little bit rare.

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I have never seen the ostrich in his original plastic package Sad Sad Sad from Plaho.




But my favorite is the Mammoth...

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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:34 am

Thankfully i found the austrich to some years ago, i think it is a great model, but made after the Lineol model again, so no wonder...

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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:16 pm

I just re-found this topic, - more than 4 years old cheers

At that time I had just "found" the VEB Plaho-plastic animals, and I was very exited.
Today I am even more exited because today I can cherish some of the EXTREMELY rare models, bags, box etc Shocked Shocked Applause

As most of our wonderful friends must have joined after the summer of 2011, perhaps it will be apperciated to bring this up again ? Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:03 pm

For me was very interesting to see and read everything on this topic...especially the information from Thomas :)
So, what I understood ....I can call these models - Marolin..and this will be not a mistake.. :)
Thank you Susanne, for showing this topic to me sunny

Just one question from me...
Are some of the models from Marolin (Veb plaho) have some marks on them....or all of them are not marking ?

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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:49 pm

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For me was very interesting to see and read everything on this topic...especially the information from Thomas :)
So, what I understood ....I can call these models - Marolin..and this will be not a mistake.. :)
Thank you Susanne, for showing this topic to me sunny

Just one question from me...
Are some of the models from Marolin (Veb plaho) have some marks on them....or all of them are not marking ?

I havent any Marolin but i think it is like the same like VEB Plaho, they are not marked

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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Tue Aug 11, 2015 1:13 am

:) Thank`s Andreas :)

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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:19 am

Andreas is right, they are not marked .

Most of them are exactly the same, but as I understand, the exceptions are the two moose and the reindeer, where Marolin changed the moulds after 1990 when they became independant again. The fur got more texture.

It is improtant to note that the three wonderful abe-families are NOT Plaho models.
The designer from Marolin, Julius Weigelt ( 1901 - 1982) had designed them during the Plaho-time, but the moulds were not made untill after 1990.

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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:18 am

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I havent any Marolin ......

I think you do. Isn't the turtle from after 1990 ? scratch

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PostSubject: Re: Plaho/Marolin or which manufacturer?   Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:49 am

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I havent any Marolin ......

I think you do. Isn't the turtle from after 1990 ? scratch

Or  maybe yours is an early prototype ? [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  Very Happy

Okay, yes i forgot that :) And any monkeys too :)

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