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PostSubject: Papo wishes for 2012   Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:36 am

I know we've had something like this in the past on LG, but it's fun and we haven't done it on this forum yet.

What figurines would you like Papo to make?

Here is my wish list:
Bongo
Giant Eland
Caracal
Different position animals
Puma standing (not with it's front legs apart)
Jaguar lying
Tigress lying (I know another tiger Laughing )
Female black rhino standing
Hippo standing with mouth closed
Dinosaurs
Brontosaurus
Brachiosaurus


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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:59 pm

I'd really like a new Norwegian Fjord because the current one has very tiny and round ears, is very chubby and is cow hocked.

I'd love some more rabbits albino

Afghan hound
African Hunting dog
Bongo
Eland
Hippo with mouth closed, I agree with you
Fox cubs

Thylacine and Quagga What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:45 pm

Well since Papo are the best in big cat figurines then I'd like to see more of them in different pastures... cat

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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:09 am

If they make a Quagga it better not look like their previous zebras Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:24 pm

So...let's play the game Laughing

Well scratch scratch scratch A BONGO cheers Why ? Because every year everyone here or on LG want a Bongo.. And every year we've got something else Laughing

Since Papo is still the big cat king :

A SNOW LEOPARD !

A CLOUDED LEOPARD !

A MACHAIRODUS or HOMOTHERIUM! ( sorry for the smilodon's fan...)

Not a big cat but :

A FOSSA !

PAPO is also very good with reptile :

A GHARIAL !

About DINOSAURS : My only whish is that PAPO's artists who work so fine on dinos will try to do scientifically accurate models. So much talents and so much unaccuracies, I can't believe it ! What a Face

LAST but NOT LEAST : My personal choice king : No warthog in 2011, it's enough with the Schleich ones. tongue But why not a RED RIVER HOG herd ? cheers cheers cheers drunken they are so colorful, so beautiful who could resist ?
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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:54 pm

Yes, yes, yes ! Red river hogs Very Happy

Oooo I'd like a Babirusa too.

A running Giraffe
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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:57 pm

Brilliant wish list Kiki! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:08 pm

Oh, and a Patagonian Mara !
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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:46 pm

BONGOOOOOO!!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:23 pm

A female gorilla, too! tongue

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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:37 pm

m.davis.15 wrote:
BONGOOOOOO!!!!!!!
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PostSubject: baltimore zoo   Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:32 pm

MY PAPO WISH LIST:
*AFRICAN AND ASIAN ELEPHANTS (*MOST IMPORTANT MADE TO SCALE, CAN'T STAND WHEN ADULT ELEPHANTS ARE "BEARLY" BIGGER THAN THE OTHER FIGURES!)*(ALL FIGURES SHOULD BE IN SCALE TO EACH OTHER, ANYWAY!!!!!) MAKE BULL AND COW ELEPHANT FOR EACH(AFRICAN & ASIAN)
*INDIAN ONE HORNED RHINO
*AFRICAN LION(MALE)- LYING POSITION
*SIBERIAN TIGER -LYING POSITION *{BIG CATS DO A LOT OF RESTING}
*JAGUAR(MALE) -LYING POSITION
*POLAR BEARS (LARGER TO SCALE THAN PREVIOUS PAPO POLARS)
*WESTERN LOWLAND GORILLA (SILVERBACK)-(A LITTLE LARGER THAN PREVIOUS "SUB-ADULT" PAPO GORILLA)
*GHARIAL -(MALE)
*NILE CROCODILE (RESTING POSTION)
*CLOUDED LEOPARD
*CHEETAH - SEATED POSITION
****AND MOST IMPORTANT-PLEASE, TAKE A BREAK FROM HOOFSTOCK(GNUS, BISON, KUDU ETC.! IT'S SIMPLE MATH, DO ZOO VISITORS RUSH TO SEE THE GAZELLE EXHIBIT OR THE BIG CAT EXHIBITS?



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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:49 pm

I'd rush to see the Gazelle Laughing but then I'm a lover of horned and hoofed animals.

I have thought of a few more thanks to some old books which I picked up at a car boot sale

Kinkajou
Spectacled bear
Ocelot
MANED WOLF !!!!!!!!
Arui
Gerenuk
Blackbuck
Arna
Serow
Saiga
Jerboa Very Happy
Arctic Hare
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PostSubject: baltimore zoo   Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:00 pm

GO TO A ZOO AND WATCH A SEROW RATHER THAN A TROOP OF WESTERN LOWLAND GORILLAS? I CAN TOTALLY APPRECIATE WATCHING A MALE BLACKBUCK CHALLENGE A RIVAL MALE, BUT I WOULD MUCH RATHER PREFER WATCHING A GROUP OF CHEETAHS, RHINOS, OR CHIMPS!
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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:31 pm

Many of those species are to complicated for normal people!
I have a small list,2:

-wildlife
eagle owl
koala female with baby
arctic hare
orangutan baby
cheetah sitting
bison calf
gibbon

-sealife
manatee
pelican
swordfish
octopus

-forest
fox cubs
black bear baby
gray squirrel(popular with UK)
Canada goose(the same)
otter
badger

-fantasy
naga
cyclops

-history
mummy farao
Napoleon Bonaparte

-prehistoric
wooly rhino
brachiosaurus
smilodon

-farm
dalmatian
dalmatian puppy
siamese cat
husky
turkey
swan
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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:47 pm

I don't like chimps, monkeys or apes. I never have so that's why I don't have any models of them. Big cats are ok but I love animals with horns and hooves. So many different species and colours !

I very much doubt that Papo would ever make the models that I mentioned so it's a good thing that I've ordered some clay. I can make them myself :)
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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:05 pm

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GO TO A ZOO AND WATCH A SEROW RATHER THAN A TROOP OF WESTERN LOWLAND GORILLAS? I CAN TOTALLY APPRECIATE WATCHING A MALE BLACKBUCK CHALLENGE A RIVAL MALE, BUT I WOULD MUCH RATHER PREFER WATCHING A GROUP OF CHEETAHS, RHINOS, OR CHIMPS!
Welcome to the forum "baltimore zoo". I see you'd like Papo to make some big cats in different positions too. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:10 pm

Welcome to the club, Baltimorezoo. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:29 pm

Rio wrote:
I don't like chimps, monkeys or apes. I never have so that's why I don't have any models of them. Big cats are ok but I love animals with horns and hooves. So many different species and colours !

I very much doubt that Papo would ever make the models that I mentioned so it's a good thing that I've ordered some clay. I can make them myself :)
You sculpt as well, look forward to seeing your models then Rio! Very Happy
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PostSubject: baltimore zoo   Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:04 am

THANK YOU FOR WELCOMING ME TO THE FORUM! I REALLY LIKE THE DETAIL THAT THE PAPO ARTISTS BRING TO THEIR FIGURES. I THINK THEIR ANIMALS(ESPECIALLY THE NEWER ANIMALS), ARE MORE REFINED AND ARTISTIC THAN SOME OF THEIR COMPETITORS' ANIMALS! WHEN I FIRST SAW THE LIONESS, AND SAW THAT THEY HAD SCULPTED AND PAINTED THE PAW PADS, I WAS VERY IMPRESSED!
SO NOTHING AGAINST HOOF STOCK, I JUST AM A HUGE FAN OF THE BIG CATS, PACHYDERMS(ELEPHANTS, HIPPOS AND RHINOS), GREAT APES, & BEARS.
SO FOR ME TWO THINGS ARE VERY IMPORTANT IN MY FIGURES:
*1)REALISM (ARTISTIC DETAIL)
*2) SCALE (I WANT THM ALL TO BE OF SCALE SO WHEN DISPLAYED THEY LOOK PROPORTIONAL TO EACH OTHER).
WOULD ALSO LOVE PAPO TO MAKE A "LION PRIDE SET" WITH A MALE(KING OF THE JUNGLE TYPE-IN A LYING POSITION-HEAD LOOKING UP) AND 2 LIONESSES (IN LYING DOWN POSITION-HEAD'S LOOKING UP), WITH A BASE AND "KOPJE" ROCK FORMATION.
WOULD A LION PRIDE SET BE OF INTEREST TO OTHER COLLECTORS?

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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:08 am

A lion pride set would be great Very Happy
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PostSubject: baltimore zoo   Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:29 am

THANKS! GLAD TO SEE YOU LIKED MY "LION PRIDE SET" IDEA HKHollinstone! HOW ABOUT SOME NEW TIGERS WITH AN INDIAN TEMPLE/RUINS? I DON'T WANT TO CALL THEM "PLAYSETS"(BECAUSE WE DON'T PLAY WITH THEM, ALTHOUGH KID COLLECTORS MIGHT), TO ME THEY ARE MORE OF A NICE DISPLAY TO SHOW OFF AND COMPLIMENT THE ANIMALS!
THEN PAPO COULD MAKE AN ATTACHMENT BASE OF A RIVER AREA WITH GHARIALS TO GO WITH THE INDIAN TEMPLE/RUINS.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE SOME NICELY DETAILED ZOO EXHIBIT DISPLAYS MADE WITH PLASTIC(TO LOOK LIKE GLASS PANES), TO PUT ANIMALS BEHIND.

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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:36 am

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THANKS! GLAD TO SEE YOU LIKED MY "LION PRIDE SET" IDEA HKHollinstone! HOW ABOUT SOME NEW TIGERS WITH AN INDIAN TEMPLE/RUINS? I DON'T WANT TO CALL THEM "PLAYSETS"(BECAUSE WE DON'T PLAY WITH THEM, ALTHOUGH KID COLLECTORS MIGHT), TO ME THEY ARE MORE OF A NICE DISPLAY TO SHOW OFF AND COMPLIMENT THE ANIMALS!
THEN PAPO COULD MAKE AN ATTACHMENT BASE OF A RIVER AREA WITH GHARIALS TO GO WITH THE INDIAN TEMPLE/RUINS.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE SOME NICELY DETAILED ZOO EXHIBIT DISPLAYS MADE WITH PLASTIC(TO LOOK LIKE GLASS PANES), TO PUT ANIMALS BEHIND.

You have some really good ideas, you should write to Papo and suggest them! I'd really love to see Papo make a tiger lying.
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PostSubject: baltimore zoo   Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:17 am

THANKS! I WISH I COULD WORK FOR PAPO! THEY'RE THE BEST, THEY JUST NEED SOME BETTER IDEAS AND GUIDANCE IN THEIR PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT! DO THEY SIT AROUND AT THEIR PRODUCTION MEETING AND SAY "I KNOW LET'S MAKE A BEAVER(NOT THAT IT'S NOT A NICE SCULPTED PIECE)"? YES, A BEAVER, NOW THAT WILL BE A TOP SELLER, NNNNOOOOOTTTTTT! WOULD YOU AS A COLLECTOR RATHER HAVE A BEAVER OR AN AWESOME SIBERIAN TIGER OR A GERENUK ON IT'S HIND LEGS AGAINST AN ACACIA TREE(FOR THOSE HOOFSTOCK LOVERS)? C'MON MAN, WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER WHITE/BLACK SWAN EITHER! IF YOU DO A BIRD, HOW ABOUT A SECRETARY BIRD! I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE A JAGUAR TOGETHER WITH A MAYAN TEMPLE DISPLAY! HOW ABOUT AN ELEPHANT HERD SET(A BULL WITH TWO FEMALES, EXCEPT THE FEMALE ELEPHANTS ARE ALMOST EXACTLY ALIKE EXCEPT FOR TRUNK POSITION, (SO EASIER TO MAKE MOLDS FOR) AND YOU COULD GET AS MANY AS YOU WANT BECAUSE YOU COULD POSITION THEM DIFFERENTLY TO LOOK LIKE THEY ARE DIFFERENT FIGURES IN A GROUPING?
I AM GLAD THEY MADE AN ORANG, EXCEPT IT IS PRETTY SIMILAR TO THE SCHLEICH ORANG(EXCEPT FOR ARM UP). I LIKE THE SAFARI LTD WILDLIFE WONDERS ORANG POSED IN THE "ALL FOURS" POSITION, BECAUSE IT'S MORE ORIGINAL LOOKING AND DIFFERENT! SOMETIMES IT SEEMS THAT THEY(FIGURE COMPANIES)ALL MAKE THE SAME ANIMAL IN THE SAME/SIMILAR POSE INSTEAD OF SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT! AS YOU CAN TELL I'M EXTREMELY PASSIONATE ABOUT THE PAPO LINE, BUT THEY JUST NEED SOME CREATIVE GUIDANCE!
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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:58 pm

A Secretary bird would be great Very Happy

And I like your idea about the Lion Pride. They could call them collectors set or presentation sets ?

See, if the big cats were in a group together, such as a pride set, I would buy them. But when model shopping my eyes are usually draw to the animals that are on their own or in sets of two. Just because it's cheaper Laughing For instance, the Schleich lions, there are about 5 to purchase and I like to get the families at the same time. So a pride set sounds great Very Happy

I'd also like a herd of say Gazelle in different poses. Gazelle don't live in twos in the wild but having them all in the same position, puts me off buying them. I don't like having doubles Laughing makes it too expensive.

And I agree about them being in scale. That's the trouble I'm having with my dioramas, My Gazelles are half the size of the Giraffes !

Some more I have thought of

Pronghorn
Peccary
Coati
Przewalski horse
Takin
Young Tapir
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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:25 pm

Certainly true that these ( Papo/Schleich and others) brands seem copy each other.
I think Papo should make better Zebras. I agree about the Secretary bird too. Cool Very Happy
Scale is a big problem, especially for collectors who make dioramas. It's hard getting models that are in scale, in the end most get custom made models. I don't see why Schleich and Papo can't make their elephants in scale, if Safari LTD can make the Wildlife Wonders series, why can't Schleich and Papo do bigger elephants?



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PostSubject: baltimore zoo   Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:19 pm

YES, RIO, IT'S COOL TO HAVE A HERD, GROUP ETC. OF ANIMALS THAT HERD, GROUP ETC.). I USUALLY END UP BUYING SEVERAL AND SETTING THEM UP AT TOTALLY DIFFERENT ANGLES TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THEY ARE DIFFERENT FIGURES. HOWEVER IF THEY MADE A SET WITH THE SAME ANIMALS BUT IN SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT POSITIONS IT WOULD BE TERRIFIC! A SECRETARY BIRD WOULD BE AWESOME!!! I LIKE THE SLOTH BEAR, PECCARY, PRONGHORN AND PRZEWALSKI'S HORSE IDEAS! DOESN'T IT SUCK WHEN THE PROPORTIONS ARE OFF! I STILL RELISH MY BRITAINS, LOOK HOW BIG THEIR BULL ELEPHANT AND COW ELEPHANTS ARE IN PROPORTION TO THE OTHER ANIMALS...
HKH, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT SAFARI LTD CAN DO IT WITH THE WW SERIES WHY CAN'T PAPO(FOR THE MOST PART THEY ALL GO TOGETHER). I LIKE THEIR MEERKATS(GREAT SCULPTS), BUT THEY MADE THEM A LITLE TO BIG! ACTUALLY I DO WISH THAT THE WILDLIFE WONDERS SAFRI LTD'S NEW ASIAN ELEPHANT AND THEIR AFRICAN ELEPHANT WERE JUST A LITTLE BIGGER. THERE NOT REALLY PERFECT TO SCALE TO THE OTHERS. THEIR HIPPO & RHINO'S WAY TO SMALL! THEY SHOULD MAKE A LARGER BULL AFRICAN AND BULL ASIAN ELEPHANT!
WHAT PAPO SHOULD DO IS MAKE THE BIGGER ANIMALS(ELEPHANTS, RHINOS, HIPPOS, GIRAFFES ETC.) TO SCALE AND JUST CHARGE MORE. I PAID $10 EACH FOR THEIR KILLER WHALE AND WHITE SHARK. THEIR HUMPBACK IS LISTED AT AROUND $18, AND THE NILE CROC I PAID AROUND $13 FOR. I'LL PAY $14 - $20
FOR THOSE LARGER TO SCALE FIGURES ANYDAY! C'MON PAPO JUST MAKE THEM! LIKE THE FAMOUS QUOTE IN THE MOVIE FIELD OF DREAMS, "IF YOU BUILD IT HE WILL COME". I SAY TO THE GREAT SCULPTORS/DESIGNERS AT PAPO "IF YOU MAKE IT, WE WILL BUY!"



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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:35 pm

Nicely put! cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:05 pm

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YES, RIO, IT'S COOL TO HAVE A HERD, GROUP ETC. OF ANIMALS THAT HERD, GROUP ETC.). I USUALLY END UP BUYING SEVERAL AND SETTING THEM UP AT TOTALLY DIFFERENT ANGLES TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THEY ARE DIFFERENT FIGURES. HOWEVER IF THEY MADE A SET WITH THE SAME ANIMALS BUT IN SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT POSITIONS IT WOULD BE TERRIFIC! A SECRETARY BIRD WOULD BE AWESOME!!! I LIKE THE SLOTH BEAR, PECCARY, PRONGHORN AND PRZEWALSKI'S HORSE IDEAS! DOESN'T IT SUCK WHEN THE PROPORTIONS ARE OFF! I STILL RELISH MY BRITAINS, LOOK HOW BIG THEIR BULL ELEPHANT AND COW ELEPHANTS ARE IN PROPORTION TO THE OTHER ANIMALS...
HKH, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT SAFARI LTD CAN DO IT WITH THE WW SERIES WHY CAN'T PAPO(FOR THE MOST PART THEY ALL GO TOGETHER). I LIKE THEIR MEERKATS(GREAT SCULPTS), BUT THEY MADE THEM A LITLE TO BIG! ACTUALLY I DO WISH THAT THE WILDLIFE WONDERS SAFRI LTD'S NEW ASIAN ELEPHANT AND THEIR AFRICAN ELEPHANT WERE JUST A LITTLE BIGGER. THERE NOT REALLY PERFECT TO SCALE TO THE OTHERS. THEIR HIPPO & RHINO'S WAY TO SMALL! THEY SHOULD MAKE A LARGER BULL AFRICAN AND BULL ASIAN ELEPHANT!
WHAT PAPO SHOULD DO IS MAKE THE BIGGER ANIMALS(ELEPHANTS, RHINOS, HIPPOS, GIRAFFES ETC.) TO SCALE AND JUST CHARGE MORE. I PAID $10 EACH FOR THEIR KILLER WHALE AND WHITE SHARK. THEIR HUMPBACK IS LISTED AT AROUND $18, AND THE NILE CROC I PAID AROUND $13 FOR. I'LL PAY $14 - $20
FOR THOSE LARGER TO SCALE FIGURES ANYDAY! C'MON PAPO JUST MAKE THEM! LIKE THE FAMOUS QUOTE IN THE MOVIE FIELD OF DREAMS, "IF YOU BUILD IT HE WILL COME". I SAY TO THE GREAT SCULPTORS/DESIGNERS AT PAPO "IF YOU MAKE IT, WE WILL BUY!"



Well said Very Happy
I love Britains they were fantastic, all in scale and beautifully made and painted.
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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:11 am

THANKS GABE! FOR ME IT'S JUST KIND OF FRUSTRATING BECAUSE I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE REASONING FOR SOME OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS FOR WHAT FIGURES THEY WILL MAKE(AND WHAT SCALE ETC.)! AS I SAID "IF YOU MAKE IT, WE WILL BUY IT!" OH, AND I SURELY WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOULDN'T YOU HARDCORE COLLECTORS BUY MORE THAN 5 OR 6 AFRICAN & ASIAN ELEPHANTS(SCULPTED IN "SLIGHTLY"DIFFERENT POSITIONS) TO FORM THEIR RESPECTIVE HERDS? I DEFINITELY WOULD! I CAN ONLY HOPE THE GOOD PEOPLE AT PAPO WILL READ MY SUGGESTIONS! I THINK IT COMES DOWN TO THIS, ZOO ANIMAL FIGURE COLLECTING IS ONE OF MY PASSIONS(AS I'M SURE IT IS FOR SOME OF YOU) AND TO THE SCULPTORS/DESIGNERS IT'S JUST A JOB.
SO WE NEED TO GET THE WORD OUT TO WHAT THEY NEED TO MAKE, BECAUSE IT'S OUR PASSION!
HKH, TO ME I STILL CHERISH MY BRITAINS, HOWEVER I THINK PAPO HAS EXCEEDED THEM(SCHLEICH'S ANIMALS ARE NOT AS ARTISTIC AND REFINED LOOKING AS PAPO, THEY HAVE A BULKIER LOOK TO THEM AS WELL). BUT REMEMBER YOU HAD TO MAKE AN EDSEL, BEFORE YOU CAN CREATE A FERRARI...
BRITAINS HELPED SET THE STANDARD, AND WE JUST NEED PAPO TO KEEP MAKING THE NEW ANIMALS BETTER BY MAING THEM MORE REALISTIC AND PROPORTIONAL TO EACH OTHER!

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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:12 am

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THANKS GABE! FOR ME IT'S JUST KIND OF FRUSTRATING BECAUSE I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE REASONING FOR SOME OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS FOR WHAT FIGURES THEY WILL MAKE(AND WHAT SCALE ETC.)! AS I SAID "IF YOU MAKE IT, WE WILL BUY IT!" OH, AND I SURELY WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOULDN'T YOU HARDCORE COLLECTORS BUY MORE THAN 5 OR 6 AFRICAN & ASIAN ELEPHANTS(SCULPTED IN "SLIGHTLY"DIFFERENT POSITIONS) TO FORM THEIR RESPECTIVE HERDS? I DEFINITELY WOULD! I CAN ONLY HOPE THE GOOD PEOPLE AT PAPO WILL READ MY SUGGESTIONS! I THINK IT COMES DOWN TO THIS, ZOO ANIMAL FIGURE COLLECTING IS ONE OF MY PASSIONS(AS I'M SURE IT IS FOR SOME OF YOU) AND TO THE SCULPTORS/DESIGNERS IT'S JUST A JOB.
SO WE NEED TO GET THE WORD OUT TO WHAT THEY NEED TO MAKE, BECAUSE IT'S OUR PASSION!
HKH, TO ME I STILL CHERISH MY BRITAINS, HOWEVER I THINK PAPO HAS EXCEEDED THEM(SCHLEICH'S ANIMALS ARE NOT AS ARTISTIC AND REFINED LOOKING AS PAPO, THEY HAVE A BULKIER LOOK TO THEM AS WELL). BUT REMEMBER YOU HAD TO MAKE AN EDSEL, BEFORE YOU CAN CREATE A FERRARI...
BRITAINS HELPED SET THE STANDARD, AND WE JUST NEED PAPO TO KEEP MAKING THE NEW ANIMALS BETTER BY MAING THEM MORE REALISTIC AND PROPORTIONAL TO EACH OTHER!

Well, unless they read it here, we all need to contact them, if we all did it they may do something. Very Happy
Yes, of course, Papo is by far more realistic than Britains now. It's just the scale that Papo has to work on and what animals they bring out each year.
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PostSubject: Baltimore zoo   Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:32 am

"IF YOU MAKE IT, WE WILL BUY!"...
*AFRICAN AND ASIAN ELEPHANTS (*MOST IMPORTANT MADE TO SCALE, CAN'T STAND WHEN ADULT ELEPHANTS ARE "BEARLY" BIGGER THAN THE OTHER FIGURES!)*(ALL FIGURES SHOULD BE IN SCALE TO EACH OTHER, ANYWAY!!!!!) MAKE BULL AND COW ELEPHANT FOR EACH(AFRICAN & ASIAN)
*INDIAN ONE HORNED RHINO
*AFRICAN LION(MALE)- LYING POSITION *(CAT HEAD LOOKING UP/TURNED/STRAIGHT AHEAD)
*SIBERIAN TIGER -LYING POSITION *{BIG CATS DO A LOT OF RESTING}
*JAGUAR(MALE) -LYING POSITION
*POLAR BEARS (LARGER TO SCALE THAN PREVIOUS PAPO POLARS)
*WESTERN LOWLAND GORILLA (SILVERBACK)-(A LITTLE LARGER THAN PREVIOUS "SUB-ADULT" PAPO GORILLA)
*GHARIAL -(MALE)
*NILE CROCODILE (RESTING POSTION)
*CLOUDED LEOPARD
*CHEETAH - SEATED POSITION
AND A GERENUK FOR RIO : )
THIS ASSORTMENT WOULD K.O. THE COMPETITION!
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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:39 am

I'd like a Bengal Tiger lying too. You missed out a Bongo!
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PostSubject: baltimore zoo   Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:20 am

YES, A LYING BENGAL TIGER AS WELL A LYING SIBERIAN TIGER WOULD BE EXCELLENT ADDITIONS! AS YOU KNOW I'M NOT A HOOFSTOCK GUY, SO A BONGO(ALTHOUGH NOTHING AGAINST BONGOS) IS A LOW PRIORITY FIGURE.
I HAD TO GO HOOFSTOCK, I WOULD SAY GREVY ZEBRAS! I LIKE THE GREVY'S THE BEST OUT OF THE ZEBRA SPECIES(PLAIN'S AND MOUNTAIN ZEBRAS).
DID YOU KNOW THE ROMANS USED GREVY ZEBRA IN THEIR CIRCUS! PRETTY COOL!


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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:58 pm

I'll tell you why Papo don't make figures the way WE, serious collectors, want. It's all about the $#@$ money! They don't care about "minority group" like us, serious and passionate collectors, but on the huge sales come from the children and their parents who would happily embrace any figure that looks cool enough for the kids. That's the root of the "problem" - Papo and probably Schleich too create these figures not for us, grown crazy adults, but for children to "imagine..." Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:15 pm

Gabe wrote:
I'll tell you why Papo don't make figures the way WE, serious collectors, want. It's all about the $#@$ money! They don't care about "minority group" like us, serious and passionate collectors, but on the huge sales come from the children and their parents who would happily embrace any figure that looks cool enough for the kids. That's the root of the "problem" - Papo and probably Schleich too create these figures not for us, grown crazy adults, but for children to "imagine..." Wink
I know making these to scale models will be more expensive for parents to buy for their kids, but I'm sure the kids would love larger models to play with, so I think they'd sell well. The Wildlife Wonders elephants aren't that much money really, for how big they are. So Schleich could price them at £13.00. Their dinosaurs are big, and people pay £18-£20 for them.
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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:34 pm

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AND A GERENUK FOR RIO : )

Thank you Very Happy

If they were in scale, I'd pay more for them. And yes, if they made a herd of Asian Elephants in different positions, I would buy them.

Perhaps an elephant in the middle of a mock charge or a charge ? Perhaps one with it's trunk curled like it's going to strip some leaves. One with it's trunk outstretched ready to drink ?

All these ideas and no company to listen to them !

I'd like if they had a specialist collectors part of their website. Maybe pay money to become a member and then we would get emails or maybe first chance to buy new models or special collectors models. It's just an idea and I'm sure there would be lots of problems with it. That's how it works with my Rammstein community membership.
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PostSubject: baltimore zoo   Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:19 pm

YES GABE, IT COMES DOWN TO MONEY. AS YOU SAID THE PARENTS BUY WHAT THEY THINK IS COOL AND WHAT THE KIDS WLL LIKE. I STILL SAY GIVEN THE CHANCE, FOR A SELECTION, EVEN AN IGNORANT PARENT WOULD GRAB A LION OVER A CAMEL .... I GO BACK TO MY ZOO VISITOR ANALOGY, AND IT APPLIES TO PARENTS AND KIDS GOING TO THE ZOO, THEY WANT TO SEE THE "POPULAR" ANIMALS(ELEPHANTS, TIGERS, GORILLAS, GIRAFFES ETC.), NOT THE WILDEBEEST EXHIBIT(NEXT TIME AT A ZOO LOOK AND SEE WHAT EXHIBITS GET THE MOST ATTENTION/CROWDED). EVEN THOUGH WE LOVE MANY MORE EXOTIC/RARER ANIMALS THAT THE AVERAGE ZOO VISITOR DOESN'T, AND WANT FIGURES MADE OF THEM, THE TOY COMPANIES NEED TO KNOW THAT! I GUARANTEE A DAD WILL GRAB A GHARIAL FIGURE INSTEAD OF THE ZEBU FOR HIS SON! I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW MANY SWANS THEY SELL COMPARED TO HOW MANY TIGER FIGURES THEY SELL! IT'LL TAKE A LIFE TIME TO SELL THOSE SWANS...(CAN YOU TELL I'M JUST A LITTLE UPSET THAT THEY MADE A SWAN INSTEAD OF A SECRETARY BIRD OR A CARIBBEAN FLAMINGO)!
RIO, GREAT IDEA ABOUT BEING A MEMBER AND GETTING E-MAILS ETC. I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG THE TOY ANIMAL COLLECTING WORLD IS, BUT IT WOULD BE REALLY COOL!
PAPO COLLECTOR'S CLUB(THEY COULD DO A COLLECTOR SPECIAL, THAT YOU CAN ONLY GET IF YOUR A MEMBER ETC. AS RIO SUGGESTED) IT WOULD BE AWESOME!

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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:32 am

OK, I am going to join this response. As most of you know, I have a taxonomically-limited collection (insects and other arthropods). It would be nice if Papo started making these. The only two major companies that do not have insect lines (at least not in the last couple decades) are Papo and Schleich. Even CollectA released a new insect this year (which is very nice, by the way :).

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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:20 am

Papo is the only one left,since Schleich had the mini insects series!
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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:28 am

Welcome to the forum Baltimore Zoo!

Wow, there are many points here to think of i guess....

First that the companies think of making money in the first place, and that our figurines are made for children in the first place indeed!
So we collectors come after them in the second place i guess...
That those children or their parents rather would choose a lion or tiger over an antelope-species is very clear.
And that we animal-species lovers would like to see more rarely made species is clear to us all, like the antelope and gazelle-family.
Of course it would be nice to see different positions on the common species like lions and elephants and so on....
I think, Schleich got the message, and is making more families now, although no herds yet, but that is an utopia i think, this will never happen, you have to make your herds with different brands.

I started collecting animal-toys in the 1960's, and then i had one coloured stuff, and the first Hong-Kong stuff, and later on i discovered Britains too.
For me, they were the holy grail in scale too, as i was annoyed by the scale problems too.
Between 1971-1976 i lived in Germany, where i discovered Hausser Elastolin too, and in my eyes they were even better then Britains, more detailed, and better painted to.
In that time, the 1:32 scale was quit common, and now we see the scale around 1:20, but not always to eachother as we know.
Now that is a shame, as they say, that that is for the fact that children play with them, and can stick them into their mouths.....
So they can be too small on a modern view, but did we have this problem when we were young???
The smallest Britains model is the platypus, and it is only about 1,7 cm!

But anyway, the scale is not correct in many cases in modern makers, and that is bad when we want to make displays, or a miniature-zoo, even as a child.
I was already crazy about animals when i was 5 or 6 years old, and had much knowledge for that age about them, so the toys they made should have been in the right scale to eachother, so why they don't do it like the manufacturers did before?!

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PostSubject: baltimore zoo   Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:17 am

Thanks for the welcome Willybacoman! So far I've really enjoyed reading different posts/responses about one of my passions, collecting animal figurines!
Like you it said, it started for me as a kid as well, collecting my Britain's and then just collecting new lines over the past years. Yes, I agree they(the toy companies) make them for kids, who play with them, chew on the them and throw them around and just don't appreciate them. Unlike us collector's who fully appreciate the figurines as "work's of art" and just want to display them so they can look their best and we can enjoy them as well!
You said, Schleich gets it and is making more "family sets", (I prefer Papo, because as I've previously mentioned that the Papo line's figures are more realistic & refined(Schleich's figures have more of a bulky look to them). Papo needs to follow Schleich and make, not necessarily families, but some of the same animals just different positions. As also mentioned before, not really a big hoof stock fan(rather have a pride of lions than a herd of impala), so for me having a herd of gazelle is not on my list(but a SIMPLE solution would be making a set of just 3 gazelle, slight different walking/standing positions and "Volia", you could buy as many as you'd want too and create your herd just by positioning them at slight different angles(one of the best tricks in the "collecting book).
I prefer displaying my figures in more of a simple setting(not in a re-recreated habitat), because I like a cleaner/simpler look, just focusing on the figures not the setting/diorama). Now, I think some of the dioramas are amazing and look awesome(such hard and tedious work), just not my style.
Also, thanks for agreeing that parents will grab a more popular animal figurine(big cat over antelope). I know, I know... there are a lot of collectors that want those hoof stock figs done(I do like zebras & giraffes : )), don't you think when you(I know I do) look at a wildebeest or a deer, you just don't see a lot going inside that brain of their's and their personality's kind of "BLAH", compared to that of a gorilla, jaguar or an elephant...
Alright, I guess I should ask, so collector's tell me about this huge infatuation with hoof stock?





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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:20 am

Ten collectors... Ten points of view... Wink

Even as a child I was fascinating by wild animals. Savannah, jungle was my space of freedom... My friends, in my dreams, were Daktari, Tarzan and Mowgli... Kikimalou was the fourth musketeer at that time Very Happy

My favourites then were not that boring and always sleepy lions but Cape buffaloes, rhinos, elephants, antelopes, monkeys and so... I lived in France where there was no Britains but Starlux or the older Clairet so I could play with maned wolves, koalas, addax, sloths which was not too bad for the 1970's Laughing

Of course, now that I am a "little bit" older, my bad liking are worse now, so I used to prefer collecting unusual species than the standarts. Sleep

I 'm not too much on the Schleich "family" habits because the "mom, dad and child" are my everyday life and my collection is my "escape" door. That's why I don't collect zoo or farm animals but only wild or extinct animals. My collection is a world without taxes, boss, government or family problems : just a cool and hot breeze and.. freedom !

In this world, just like in real wildlife, the plains are full of herds - buffaloes, impalas, giraffes, sable, waterbucks - and ONLY a few predators. The poor beasts need to eat everyday... What a Face The jungles hosts monkeys and every strange animal I can collect.

As far as I'm concerned, I don't need more wild cats except rarely seen ones like clouded or snow leopard.

But there is enough tigers, lions and leopards IMHO.

And of course, please Mrs and Mr PAPO, I absolutely need Red river hogs cheers Even a family drunken
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PostSubject: baltimore zoo   Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:18 am

I loved Daktair(I even had the Corgi Daktari toy set)!
Interesting philosophy on your collecting relating to your life(escape door).
Yes, I would like a snow and clouded leopard(just can't get into the herding animals, sorry to say, but you seen one wildebeest you've seen them all, plus they're not the brightest).
But seeing a clouded leopard is breathtaking!
Also would love an American Lion, Columbian Mammoth and a Saber Tooth Cat of some kind (Smilodon Fatalis). The Pleistocene era is the coolest! You could have your buffalos, pronghorns, and camels being stalked by an American lion! Or how about a Short Faced Bear squaring off with a Grizzly!
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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:41 am

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I loved Daktair(I even had the Corgi Daktari toy set)!
Interesting philosophy on your collecting relating to your life(escape door).
Yes, I would like a snow and clouded leopard(just can't get into the herding animals, sorry to say, but you seen one wildebeest you've seen them all, plus they're not the brightest).
But seeing a clouded leopard is breathtaking!
Also would love an American Lion, Columbian Mammoth and a Saber Tooth Cat of some kind (Smilodon Fatalis). The Pleistocene era is the coolest! You could have your buffalos, pronghorns, and camels being stalked by an American lion! Or how about a Short Faced Bear squaring off with a Grizzly!

Very Happy Ok, I understand one may think gnus are boring but hoofed animals are so different from each other : Bored with wildebeest... Sleep Try a bongo, a sable or a derby eland... Why not a waterbuck, a forest buffalo or a duikker...
Even if I think only about wildebeest, I can collect 10 or 20 different ones and, when I watch the whole batch, I can see a herd... Something natural indeed.
But I'm sorry when I see five or ten or 20 lions, I think about a circus but not savannah ! Of course it is even worse with tigers cyclops

Real truth, when I look at my collection I still think I've got too much wild cats... And I already sold or trade some like the Hausser-Elastolin, the Lineol, Starlux.

Again a clouded leopard is on my Papo wishlist because Papo is the king for the wild cats but what is a snow leopard without Thar, markhor or takin ?
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PostSubject: baltimore zoo   Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:40 pm

Well, I guess that's what makes the great "toy animal collector" world go round, you love bongos, duikers, elands, sables and I love the big cats, pachyderms(elephants, rhinos & hippos), great apes, polars and komodos....
I hope for your sake Papo makes lots of antelopes for your herd diorama as I hope they make some proportional large sized African and Asian elephants for me!
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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:23 pm

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Well, I guess that's what makes the great "toy animal collector" world go round, you love bongos, duikers, elands, sables and I love the big cats, pachyderms(elephants, rhinos & hippos), great apes, polars and komodos....
I hope for your sake Papo makes lots of antelopes for your herd diorama as I hope they make some proportional large sized African and Asian elephants for me!
I hope they make to scale elephants too and some more big cats! But I also hope they make more hooved animals Very Happy As I love them just as much.
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PostSubject: baltimore zoo   Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:31 pm

I hear yah, brother!
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PostSubject: Re: Papo wishes for 2012   Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:18 pm

baltimore zoo wrote:
Well, I guess that's what makes the great "toy animal collector" world go round, you love bongos, duikers, elands, sables and I love the big cats, pachyderms(elephants, rhinos & hippos), great apes, polars and komodos....
I hope for your sake Papo makes lots of antelopes for your herd diorama as I hope they make some proportional large sized African and Asian elephants for me!

Well Balti (is balti alright ? Baltimorezoo is a little bit long I guess Wink ), the most important thing is Papo will make good models, better than the new zebras and 2009 camel.

Even small, I love the Papo elephants and they are perfect at the 1/32 scale.

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PostSubject: baltimore zoo   Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:29 am

Kikimalou, I definitely want figures to scale of African and Asian elephants!
And HK,"bongo, a sable or a derby eland... Why not a waterbuck, a forest buffalo or a duikker...", sorry man, but with all due respect, they just don't turn me on, like a big cat!
You said it reminds you of a circus(when you see lots of lions, well they do live in prides on the savannah). How about a tiger set with a tiger figure lying on an a temple ruin/statue head? I agree with you 100% that Papo makes the best cats, so how about a snow leopard with some tahr femurs?
O.K. a Sichuan takin would be cool, because they're very prehistoric looking.
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