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PostSubject: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptySun Jun 27, 2010 8:57 am

Hi Friends,

again a very rare composition animal:

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and the direct comparison with Schleich and Safari

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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptySun Jun 27, 2010 9:09 am

Beautiful Oryx, I love these composition animals, if they weren't so rare I'd really like to own some.
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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptySun Jun 27, 2010 10:00 am

Congratulation Torben Very Happy A very nice catch and it seems in avery good condition for an old grand pa from 1940. Cool

I also like the pics with the Schleich and Safari because the Lineol is the only one I have in this scale Very Happy so I can compare with his grand son...
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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptySun Jun 27, 2010 8:10 pm

Beautiful additions Torben. Congratulations. Great find.
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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptyMon Jun 28, 2010 3:47 pm

Oh My god! This is really beautiful and Congratulation!
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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 11:57 pm

Bautiful figure, congrats on the addition.
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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptySat Jul 10, 2010 5:27 pm

A great catch Torben, the mother or father of all the oryxes in our field!
Wonderfull model, and i great shape as it seems! Gratuliere! cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptySun Sep 19, 2010 11:35 pm

This really is a stunning model particularly due to the lovely pose that it is in. Most figures are always in a boring standing position like the Schleich one. The Lineol model looks so realistic with its graceful pose. Why dont modern manufacturers take note??
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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptyTue Nov 30, 2010 12:56 am

That is the case with many of the old Lineols, they are still the best in all of those years...

I found him too, a short while ago, together with the Lineol Saberantelope, they should be on their way to me right now... cheers

By the way Christophe, i know you own the Schleich oryx now... Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptyFri Apr 13, 2012 10:17 pm

Hey!

Hm ............ .... .
I must admit that personally I do not like your Lineol figures No .. was made ​​of bad materials, and the whole is bad, such as in zebra stripes are unreal exclamation .. just the bottom .. but this is an old company, which wanted to show that you can do something such as figurines of animals .. Now the market is Collecta, Schleich, Safari LTD, mojo .. Bullyland and a few others, even those no longer do ktoe figures, such as Bandai, or Noah Pal's, but the latter made ​​a much nicer figure than Lineol Crying or Very sad .. So I think these figures are bad .. No
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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 2:58 am

:) :)

sensational oryx Treasure of many years.

These animals made with different materials that today.

But are the grandparents of our animals.

Big congrats..

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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 9:52 am

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Hm ............ .... .
I must admit that personally I do not like your Lineol figures No .. was made ​​of bad materials, and the whole is bad, such as in zebra stripes are unreal exclamation .. just the bottom .. but this is an old company, which wanted to show that you can do something such as figurines of animals .. Now the market is Collecta, Schleich, Safari LTD, mojo .. Bullyland and a few others, even those no longer do ktoe figures, such as Bandai, or Noah Pal's, but the latter made ​​a much nicer figure than Lineol Crying or Very sad .. So I think these figures are bad .. No
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I respect your taste of course Daniel but I can't agree with you. Composition materials have flaws but they have quality that modern PVC are still unable to reach. This old material allowed manufacturer from the past to make more realistic animals than today : Legs, horns, tails, ears are thin like real animals. Nowadays animals are nearly always too thick.

two examples ?

The oryx : LINEOL, SCHLEICH and SAFARI Ltd

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I will not speak about the paintings because, again they have all flaws. All I can say is SAFARI ltd painting is the best in this serie...

But the sculpting... The SCHLEICH is a fat antelope, with too big head, to fat horns and legs. It is maybe a must have toy but it is absolutely unreal.
The SAFAR ltd is better, the head is at the good scale, the horns are thiner and the legs a bit too. But the legs are a bit "Papoing" (strange bending) because of the PVC.
The LINEOL have good proportions, thin kegs and horns wich are not bending. The flaw is the material is fragile to play with but can stand on any shelves for decades now.

The only oryx I know which is more realistic than the LINEOL is the HARRIET's oryx... but it is not exactly a toy Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 10:02 am

Second example : The 1940's LINEOL, the COLLECTA and the SCHLEICH...
The SCHLEICH zebras are of course far better than the SCHLEICH oryx... But still a bit thick !
The COLLECTA is elegant but not as realistic.
Despite a rougher painting, I have nothing to say against the LINEOL sculpting, it is stil IMHO the most realistic. Cool

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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 10:32 am

In spite of everything I Lineol animals from the "worst" No ...
But that's my opinion;-) Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 10:34 am

Zebra by Schleich are too fat? seen a zebra with a Noah's shepherd's? It is only Chubs .. Although this figure Collect, Schleich, safari ltd, are a much better and quality, and appearance than others, and certainly from Lineol ... but as I say, it is my opinion, and I think this whole Lineol should no longer do figures, and indeed already does .. and very well.
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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 11:20 am

I confess, I am finding myself in agreement with Christophe. I love Schleich figures; I even love the thickness of the figures. But I have also been noticing how much thinner the limbs of real animals are in the pictures I've seen. I recently did my first model -- my own sculpture of a hyena. The biggest problem I had was the back legs especially were gigantic, not at all like real hyena legs which are incredibly thin. Then my girlfriend and I were comparing the Collecta and Schleich Ostriches. The Schleich is so appealing. But the Collecta's neck and legs are thinner (and as a result much more realistic).

(And as a side not, the Schleich Ostrich has nails on the second, smaller toe. This is entirely incorrect!! I was deeply disappointed.)

So as much as i am loyal to Schleich and love those fat little animals, I'm really impressed by the old Lineol. They are beautiful and the delicate limbs are lovely!
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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 11:32 am

danielzebra wrote:
Zebra by Schleich are too fat? seen a zebra with a Noah's shepherd's? It is only Chubs .. Although this figure Collect, Schleich, safari ltd, are a much better and quality, and appearance than others, and certainly from Lineol ... but as I say, it is my opinion, and I think this whole Lineol should no longer do figures, and indeed already does .. and very well.
Daniel.

Of course SCHLEICH zebras are too fat, beautiful but too fat. Wink Less that than the obese NOAH'S PALS but still a bit fat Laughing .

But don't worried about new LINEOL, this fantastic brand retired in the early 1960's Sad .

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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 11:48 am

Schleich my opinion are very good Wink , and Lineol is not "wonderful" Mad .... -. -
But as I say, it is my opinion. tongue

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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 3:20 pm

Daniel i accept your opinion. The material from the old animals is not the best but this animals are very very old. And i think your point of view is only of the present. For a few years you can not say that the Schleich animals looks realistic. And so i think this brands was the best what you can find in the past, until the 80s. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 4:07 pm

danielzebra wrote:
Schleich my opinion are very good Wink , and Lineol is not "wonderful" Mad .... -. -
But as I say, it is my opinion. tongue

Daniel. sunny

Daniel, I also understand what you mean and we don't want to change your way of seeing the figures! Schleich is very good in design, they don't make the figures very realistic but almost always very beautiful! Even members much older than you get angry with me when I say that the Schleich oryx is a completly wrong figure and probably the worst of all antelopes from modern brands! But it doesn't mean that it is not beautiful! :) A little like plushes, they are made to look beautiful but not realistic. For example, take a look at Schleich oryx hooves, they are proportionally huge compared with those from a real one. The legs really chubby and the head is not only large but also completly wrong in shape, take a look also to the ears and compare with a real one. It looks Schleich used those from a completly different animal. Now see where the eyes are placed, very pretty but wrong. This is a male, that's the reason why horns are so thick but very exagerated indeed. Also the painting is in general pretty but all the marks are wrong. Despite all these flaws this is one of the most popular antelope figures among collectors, even those very experienced. Schleich has a huge seduction power and we love to live in an ilusive world! Laughing
I'm glad you are giving your honest opinion, That's great but maybe not fair for the great sculptor that was able to make such a realistic gemsbok as it is the Lineol one, in a period where the factory production was much more limited and much harder to find information about the species. In my opinion, the Lineol is much better than Schleich's and also only Harriet beats it! Please read Scotts comment above and you will understand what we mean. But please continue enjoying modern figures, they are made according with the tastes of your generation and we should always collect what really enjoy us! Very Happy

P.S. I enjoy your irreverent style and the fact that you collect crocodile food! Laughing Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 5:15 pm

Roger,
I know, I understand Wink .. I gather antelope, but I have to Lineol simply because I do not like them ... No
I want to also ask if you had to sell the Roan antelope with Noah Pal's? Or maybe a page where you can buy there? question bounce Or maybe you know a collector who can sell, or somewhere on Ebay is the auction of antelope.? question

Thanks for any help! exclamation cheers Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 5:37 pm

I think it has its own special charm about it and beauty, although not as realistic as the current brands I think its wonderful Very Happy cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 7:23 pm

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Roger,
I know, I understand Wink .. I gather antelope, but I have to Lineol simply because I do not like them ... No
I want to also ask if you had to sell the Roan antelope with Noah Pal's? Or maybe a page where you can buy there? question bounce Or maybe you know a collector who can sell, or somewhere on Ebay is the auction of antelope.? question

Thanks for any help! exclamation cheers Very Happy

Daniel! I see you are much more interested in getting some new figures to your collection than in what was made in Germany during 40's years! Laughing I don't have and I also don't know where can you find a roan antelope by Noah's Pals, but TGF Toys has in stock the Niala antelopes that would interest to you.
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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 8:23 pm

Rogers!
Oh, thank you very much exclamation for the links and everything, in spite of the Nyala antelope are also very nice, but I care more for the roan .. Damn exclamation .. sorry so to speak, but I really want to buy the roan ... Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 8:27 pm

There's only one problem Crying or Very sad .. I live in Poland, and this shop is pretty far out, probably in the U.S., so the cost figures + shipping here to my Polish is very expensive .. not at all familiar, but as you know, why do not you counted the cost? I do not know, I'm not good in the category of "package" ....
Hm ... something may come up with Roan antelope? question .... hm ... I do not know scratch ..

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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 9:57 pm

[quote="Admin"]Hi Friends,

again a very rare composition animal:

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A wonderful study of an animal suspended in motion.

This is a true "in the wild" pose and not a static "I am standing still" one! Compare this action pose with contemporary Zoo style ones from Britains.

The reason here is choice of material. When this animal model was created plastic was yet to be developed and 'composition' was the way forward with "active movement". Animals figures created by the Hollow cast method using lead were destined to be static.

Nice find BTW.

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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 10:01 pm

I personally love the old composition animals. OF course I also love the old lead and metal animals, and the old plastic animals, and the new plastic animals, and...

I think it is helpful to remember that different people have different interests and requirements in collecting. Some people want the most realistic looking figure they can find and would be happiest if it is in scale with other animals by the same maker. Other people care less about how realistic it looks and more about how much personality it shows. An old composition figure to me has a naturalness of materials and a patina from age that plastic figures are not capable of having. With plastic figures they look the beast to me fresh and clean like the day they were made. With composition and lead figures I care less about that. I still am a little picky about what things bother me and what dont. For instance on lead figures paint missing from a face bothers me more than chips in the paint elsewhere. Torben's oryx is not much younger than my mother. If I look that good when I am 70+ years old I will be a happy man.

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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 10:05 pm

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Torben's oryx is not much younger than my mother. If I look that good when I am 70+ years old I will be a happy man.

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The more I look at this, the more in love I am with the Lineol.

I'm at DEFCOV 2. (like DEFCON, except pertaining to Coveting. I'm very pleased with myself on this one, as you can see; which is unfortunate since it quite possibly could have been funny without the explanation. We'll never know.)

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If I look that good when I am 70+ years old I will be a happy man.

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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptyTue Apr 17, 2012 1:24 am

Well Daniel, you see that we can't agree all on models...
You can't compare apples with pears in the first place!
Between 1900-1950, nobody ever heard about plastics or PVC, so the material what was available was used.

First it is a little wonder, that so many of those old and brittle models survived through this time anyway...

Secondly, was the sculptor of these old Lineol models a real and true artist!

Third, as many older and other collectors mentioned before me, the model and sculpt of the Lineol antelopes was far ahead of its time, and from a far better quality then the modern models, specially Schleich, who is even getting worse anymore.

Fourth, i lived in Germany in the 1970's, where you had only the very comical and playfull Schleich Classics, from which i had a lot in that time to, talking about chubby or fat...
Thankfully i had my Britains and Hausser Elastolins to, which were much more accurate, and i scale to eachother, which no modern brand still has achieved...

Fifth, i think, you have to see them in the real, to make a judgement like that, because when you have the Lineol in your hands, next to the Schleich oryx for example, you will only agree with us, i am pretty sure about that!
Then you see what real quality is!

Sixth, the only thing that could scare you off to collect these kind of models, is the price, you can easily buy almost the complete Schleich range of one year for the same price as one Lineol antelope... Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptyTue Apr 17, 2012 2:18 pm

Well ...
And so I think these figures as ugly, but it is my opinion, so Do not tell me to change his mind on these models, simply because I do not like ...
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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptyTue Apr 24, 2012 5:23 am

Taste does differ indeed, nobody can say something on that indeed!
But you have to have those in your hands first, before you can give any honest and real opinion about them!
For the rest, i think you are are Royal pain in the ass on this forum to be honest! Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil
With a far to big mouth for a little boy like you! Mad
You don't know what you are talking about boy!

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Taste does differ indeed, nobody can say something on that indeed!
But you have to have those in your hands first, before you can give any honest and real opinion about them!

True words spoken here Willy.

This reminds me of people trying to review models just by looking at pictures!

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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptyWed Apr 25, 2012 5:15 am

I don't have any Lineol's yet(I wish!) Though I think this guy is lovely. I personally prefer models with the realistic thinner legs. Which is why I don't really collect many Schleich figures(though I do like some of them!) I don't really see the reason for the thick legs since Collecta has shown us their very very nice horse figures with normal legs.

But yes, Nice figure! I like the pose. It makes the animal look very stream-lined and elegant. Hopefully someday I can add some to whatever room I have left on my shelf haha.
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Taste does differ indeed, nobody can say something on that indeed!
But you have to have those in your hands first, before you can give any honest and real opinion about them!

True words spoken here Willy.

This reminds me of people trying to review models just by looking at pictures!

Chris

I agree. Willy's words are definitely wise. And Chris, you are absolutely right about trying to review models by looking at pictures. We should all know this by now, having collected hundreds of figures and having seen the difference between pictures and the real thing.

Even when we have concerns -- or tentative criticisms -- about a figure, there are polite ways of expressing those concerns and criticisms.

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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptyThu Apr 26, 2012 3:18 am

Well, i spoke those words, as i really feel so about those old models.
Of course it can be very different for people that don't have the feeling for them, or never had one in their hands.
But i think, those collectors who have some, not just bought them because they are old and worth a little bit more.
They are the grandparents of our modern animal models, and very classy for their time.
When i look at the prices for them in the old Lineol catalogues, i can imagine that only kids from well-situated parents could afford to buy them for their kids... Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptyFri Apr 27, 2012 11:29 pm

You hit me!
I was ignoring Masse-Stuff for far too long.
I can't think of so many Schleichs to be more interesting for me than some of those extraordinary Figurines such as this Oryx!
Also the idea of being influenced by zoo animals when Berlin Zoo was even more a place of animal keeping history than today.

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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptyMon May 14, 2012 3:24 am

Quality never lies Philipp, in any case, isn't it?! Rolling Eyes Wink

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..and now, both Oryx and Zebra are on their way to me! cheers Some renovation is needed, but i am looking forward to start with it!

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PostSubject: Re: Oryx Antelope from Lineol   Oryx Antelope from Lineol EmptyThu Aug 23, 2012 10:01 pm

You bought that Oryx without a horn? Zebra, Oryx, Sea lion and... tapir if I remember correct?

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..and now, both Oryx and Zebra are on their way to me! cheers Some renovation is needed, but i am looking forward to start with it!

Congratulations!! Those are both such beautiful figures. The very best ever. I'm envious and happy for you.


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I like Lineol oryx's head/neck as well as the same for their zebra!
As far as Schleich, I really like the their Grazing Zebra. Nice figure.
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