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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:21 pm

Thanks for posting Numaan, it is a surprising release! :) ...and we see already the touch of a collector here! cheers
An unusual species in an unusual pose. Only a question?
I see clearly Deborah style in this figure, the movement is wonderful but not natural in a wildebeest, I'm asking it because it is in a graceful movement like a horse and not in a typical gnu pose. Suspect clown
Is it really from Deborah? Rolling Eyes
It looks the sculptor is very artistic but forgot to see how gnus move! What a Face Can we review some points as in Mojo or is it useless? Very Happy
It's a nice figure, everybody looks happy and surely in my wish list.
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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:28 pm

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cheers cheers cheers cheers Wonderful cheers cheers cheers cheers

Great pose, great detail and an unusual specie Very Happy CollectA is growing in my mind year after year, too bad this brand is hard to find in France Sad

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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:43 pm

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Thanks for posting Numaan, it is a surprising release! :) ...and we see already the touch of a collector here! cheers
An unusual species in an unusual pose. Only a question?
I see clearly Deborah style in this figure, the movement is wonderful but not natural in a wildebeest, I'm asking it because it is in a graceful movement like a horse and not in a typical gnu pose. Suspect clown
Is it really from Deborah? Rolling Eyes
It looks the sculptor is very artistic but forgot to see how gnus move! What a Face Can we review some points as in Mojo or is it useless? Very Happy
It's a nice figure, everybody looks happy and surely in my wish list.
Well, I doubt if this is Deborah's work, she sculpts horses only as far as I know scratch For my eyes it looks more like work of the same person which did lions family :)
I love this model but if I would change anything I think I would make head 5%-7% bigger. But maybe it's just the photo angle Laughing I must see this model in person, and I really want to have it indeed cheers
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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:39 pm

Yees !!! cheers cheers cheers

Is a perfect and wonderfull figure Shocked Shocked !!

Thank you for the pic. I want him !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Very Happy


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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:48 pm

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Thanks for posting Numaan, it is a surprising release! :) ...and we see already the touch of a collector here! cheers
An unusual species in an unusual pose. Only a question?
I see clearly Deborah style in this figure, the movement is wonderful but not natural in a wildebeest, I'm asking it because it is in a graceful movement like a horse and not in a typical gnu pose. Suspect clown
Is it really from Deborah? Rolling Eyes
It looks the sculptor is very artistic but forgot to see how gnus move! What a Face Can we review some points as in Mojo or is it useless? Very Happy
It's a nice figure, everybody looks happy and surely in my wish list.


It is not the work of Deborah but one of CollectA's own in-house sculptors. Not everyone will be 100% pleased with a model and there are many things one can change. The movement was taken from a number of photographs and it is supposed to be an animal 'on the move' so this particular position one would only see for a second whilst the animal is on the move. An antelope has a typical running or walking style but if you google images you can find a million photos of antelopes taken whilst they were on the move and that split second photo will show you the animal in a pose you may not necessarily associate it with. I am not sure I am explaining myself well here but I hope you get what i mean. Usually sculpts are based on an animal standing still, eating, walking or in some other 'doing' position. This applies to the other 3 antelopes made by CollectA but the wildebeest is based on an animal on the move and so yes you may see a wildebeest trotting or galloping in this way. I am also quite a critical person and perhaps there are things I would also change but this was one of the earlier models to be completed and so one could always wish to go back and make things better. But for a first attempt I still think it is pretty good and hope most of you do too.

I know not everyone will be pleased will every single animal and many improvements can be made but unfortunately all the CollectA models pictured are complete and hence cannot be changed at this stage. I will see in future if we can do what you did with Mojo and put a model up for collectors to comment on whilst it is still in progress. I still think this wildebeest has a character and a lot of drama in the pose which Schleich can only ever dream of doing..... Very Happy


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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:50 pm

cheers cheers cheers cheers OH MY GOD Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:02 am

Numaan, I understand you clearly and everybody here is pleased with the figure, I don't see any bad comment! :)
The black gnu in its original movement would result less apealing surely! That's only my style, As you know, every artists make sables with the muzzle pointed to the sky to turn it more dramatic and in Sable topic I refused this pose because it would turn the figure more apealing but in a pose not natural for a sable antelope.
Gnus are antelopes with a very characteristic morphology and with a way of moving completly different from other antelopes. A researcher knows a gnu easily even in a long distance because of its way of moving. They are really silly in their movements, not full of elegance as this one is showing. I'm only being coerent with myself. :)
I'm sure that without your participation we were probably seeing more cute polar bears and pandas and maybe not such an interesting creature! Full of drama, that's it! :)
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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:58 am

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Numaan, I understand you clearly and everybody here is pleased with the figure, I don't see any bad comment! :)
The black gnu in its original movement would result less apealing surely! That's only my style, As you know, every artists make sables with the muzzle pointed to the sky to turn it more dramatic and in Sable topic I refused this pose because it would turn the figure more apealing but in a pose not natural for a sable antelope.
Gnus are antelopes with a very characteristic morphology and with a way of moving completly different from other antelopes. A researcher knows a gnu easily even in a long distance because of its way of moving. They are really silly in their movements, not full of elegance as this one is showing. I'm only being coerent with myself. :)
I'm sure that without your participation we were probably seeing more cute polar bears and pandas and maybe not such an interesting creature! Full of drama, that's it! :)

Thanks Roger, now lets see about the other figures! Very Happy I cant wait to post them when i get them.
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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:04 am

Very gorgeous Black Wildebeest! Thanks for posting!

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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:07 am

I agree with the pose CollectAzoo Wink I can't find a pic with this exact pose but, as Crocger thought about a horse pose, I thought about a very macho bison bull I saw on tv, the guy was trotting like this white-tailed gnu among the herd " Hey, is everyone can see who is the boss here ?".
It also remember me the PAPO blue wildebeest because those two guys have a very strong personnality. Very Happy

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PostSubject: YUPPYYYYY   Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:17 am

alien cheers alien THIS IS WHAT I CALLED INNOVATION, HELLO SCHLEICH I HOPE YOU READ THIS AND I WONT BUY NO MORE FROM YOU THIS IS MY LAST YEAR,,,

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PostSubject: stunning model   Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:49 am

almost makes me faint.stuning model.dyanamic pose like the papo toys.i have recenty decided to cut short my collections and have only one gnu species from papo.when heard about the collecta new list,i was like wait an see.now truly this is on first of my wishlist
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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:22 am

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I have just received the official photo for the Black Wildebeest which I can now release on here. All the new photos will be released in various stages whilst CollectA put together their catalogue. Some models are still being finalised.

Here is the first photo. I hope you like it. I think it is stunning.


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Hi , you don't feel sorry for the "invisible " pictures...we ,all, understand you...and by the way...wich scale is the collectA gnu...you see the figure or just simple photos...?
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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:30 am

Superb!!!

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I agree with the pose CollectAzoo Wink
Yeah, Numaan should think of changing his nickname :) Wink

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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:32 pm

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Hi , you don't feel sorry for the "invisible " pictures...we ,all, understand you...and by the way...wich scale is the collectA gnu...you see the figure or just simple photos...?

Hi Alex

I am not good with numbers so I am not sure of the exact scale but I think it will be similar in size to the Schleich Gnu or perhaps a tiny bit bigger. CollectA are trying to keep them in exact scale with Schleich but it can be difficult but they certainly wont be the size of those Papo models!
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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:30 pm

In my opinion pose of this gnu is very good. I seen on short movies that these animals cantering in the same way like horses and this pose is just one phase of canter. The thing which may make this figure look a little bit too graceful for that specie is head, wildebeests have quite heavy looking heads normally scratch
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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:57 pm

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In my opinion pose of this gnu is very good. I seen on short movies that these animals cantering in the same way like horses and this pose is just one phase of canter. The thing which may make this figure look a little bit too graceful for that specie is head, wildebeests have quite heavy looking heads normally scratch
But of course I love that figure very much king We can search small flaws even in best figures but is it really necessary scratch
I love his pose! It´s fantastic... only one thing could be better... his tail should be longer Laughing But that´s a small thing... I love the way he is!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:58 pm

Well, I made a black wildebeest recently, so here's my opinion again, now more detailed. First of all, I like the pose and specially like that CollectA is making so many new figures.

Second thing is that we need to see the figure with my own eyes, or we need more pictures.

IMO the head is too similar to a horse head, BUT referring only to that picture, maybe I'm wrong. As Ana says wildebeest have biggest heads and powerful necks, I prefer also a biggest head, and the shape of the head seems different from the wildebeest one. In black wildebeest the muzzle is big and wide, not beautiful, I think :) also the shape of the face is convex, but as I said before I will wait until having on my hands or seeing more pictures to compare all that terms :)
The horns are really well made as the shape of the mane and the beard. Maybe the colour is a little bit light, but in wildness there are several colours for the same specie. The fur is very well worked, in my opinion.
Congratulations again to CollectA for new species figures, I can wait to see them!!!

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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:12 pm

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I love his pose! It´s fantastic... only one thing could be better... his tail should be longer Laughing But that´s a small thing... I love the way he is!!!!

Yes I agree the tail should have been longer but it was too late to change it when I realised.
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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:04 pm

Excelent! 100% cheers

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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:55 pm

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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:04 am

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I agree with the pose CollectAzoo Wink I can't find a pic with this exact pose but, as Crocger thought about a horse pose, I thought about a very macho bison bull I saw on tv, the guy was trotting like this white-tailed gnu among the herd " Hey, is everyone can see who is the boss here ?".
It also remember me the PAPO blue wildebeest because those two guys have a very strong personnality. Very Happy

Christophe, of course you cannot find easily a picture of a black gnu in this pose, that's the reason why I'm saying it is not natural! Not natural and impossible are 2 different things. For example, we agree that the Papo crocodile is full of personality but the pose is impossible.
In my point of view a figure only is full of personality when it has the correct personality, a macaque with croc personality doesn't work as well as a crocodile with macaque personality! Laughing ;)Have you got my idea? monkey

@ Ana, I see the way texture and muscles were worked in a different style from Deborah's horses, whose from pictures look almost without texture while this figure is rich in this point.
But the pose remembers me a lot some Deborah horses! Could you see why I was asking?


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Those are many gnus in a slower motion Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:32 am

What are you guys talking about????? Shocked This pose is perfectly normal for black gnu... walking or running... this is normal pose and i love it!! I don´t see horse in it at all! Very Happy Very Happy scratch

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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:50 pm

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What are you guys talking about????? Shocked This pose is perfectly normal for black gnu... walking or running... this is normal pose and i love it!! I don´t see horse in it at all! Very Happy Very Happy scratch

I must use my heart to comment and not my brain! Of course you cannot see a horse in it and gnus move like horses! Isn't it nice a new species in the market? I love you I love you
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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:53 pm

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What are you guys talking about????? Shocked This pose is perfectly normal for black gnu... walking or running... this is normal pose and i love it!! I don´t see horse in it at all! Very Happy Very Happy scratch

I agree with Martin but I also see what Roger means. What he is essentially saying is that the trotting style of the Gnu has been done before but in horses so as soon as you see the Gnu you can think of Horse models in a similar pose. I see what you mean Roger but I promise you this was not designed or has nothing to do with Deborah - she only designs the horses for CollectA. The pose was taken from a photo and some drawings of a Gnu.

Also I realise something, the photo of the wildebeest and capy are of the prototypes and these are more detailed. A little of this detail is lost once the commercial plastic model is made so please be aware of that. Even though many CollectA models have been finalised some of them have not had their plastic versions created yet like the Giraffe and Okapi. Will keep you posted.

Anyway it is great to see all of us chatting, sharing and debating! Not every figure will be pleasing to everyone and we can all pick out negatives and faults but that is fine - we just want the best and CollectA is taking note.

I cant wait to get this Gnu! I want ten in my collection! lol
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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:27 pm

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What are you guys talking about????? Shocked This pose is perfectly normal for black gnu... walking or running... this is normal pose and i love it!! I don´t see horse in it at all! Very Happy Very Happy scratch

I agree with Martin but I also see what Roger means. What he is essentially saying is that the trotting style of the Gnu has been done before but in horses so as soon as you see the Gnu you can think of Horse models in a similar pose. I see what you mean Roger but I promise you this was not designed or has nothing to do with Deborah - she only designs the horses for CollectA. The pose was taken from a photo and some drawings of a Gnu.

Also I realise something, the photo of the wildebeest and capy are of the prototypes and these are more detailed. A little of this detail is lost once the commercial plastic model is made so please be aware of that. Even though many CollectA models have been finalised some of them have not had their plastic versions created yet like the Giraffe and Okapi. Will keep you posted.

Anyway it is great to see all of us chatting, sharing and debating! Not every figure will be pleasing to everyone and we can all pick out negatives and faults but that is fine - we just want the best and CollectA is taking note.

I cant wait to get this Gnu! I want ten in my collection! lol

Numaan, you are a clever man and I apreciate it! cheers CollectA is improving a lot with your colaboration and also all collectors! Wink
It's always wise to hear all the comments mainly when a "guy" make it in a polite way like I do;Laughing :)
If it was a Deborah's work it was nothing wrong in it. My last and short comment about the pose is:
Gnus don't walk or run like horses!
Be careful with draws but even with the drama touch I'll buy surely the figure! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:00 pm

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Christophe, of course you cannot find easily a picture of a black gnu in this pose, that's the reason why I'm saying it is not natural!

Wink Some non natural gnus Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:04 pm

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For example, we agree that the Papo crocodile is full of personality but the pose is impossible.
In my point of view a figure only is full of personality when it has the correct personality, a macaque with croc personality doesn't work as well as a crocodile with macaque personality! Laughing ;)Have you got my idea? monkey

I agree the PAPO croc is as false as the PAPO Komodo dragon Wink Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:09 pm

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Christophe, of course you cannot find easily a picture of a black gnu in this pose, that's the reason why I'm saying it is not natural!

Wink Some non natural gnus Very Happy


Hey some of these photos are really nice. I dont know why but i love Black Wildebeest, there is something mysterious about them. I think because their faces are always hidden behind their bears and horns so cannot really see their facial expressions. Love them.

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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:16 pm

OK I see discussion is really very interesting Very Happy Roger I understand that this antelope may look too graceul but the way it's running looks correct. I also think white tailed gnus move like horses. Actually horses may run in several different gaits and I think only the gait typical for hares and rabbit is not in use in that specie (from 4 legged animals of course Razz ). And even on photo which You send gnus running like horses-gallop or canter, just they are all in different phase than the CollectA one. I think this picture shows nice gallop with all it's phases, You can easily find the phase which is on on the photo from the savanna:
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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:44 pm

Of course I don't mind, Ana! I love it, mainly when made in a coerent way as you are doing. flower Very interesting imput! It is interesting seeing people that don't agree with me because don't see nothing like a horse in that figure and people showing me that gnus moves like horses! Hard to understand. I don't see any picture with a graceful movement as in the figure, only the legs in the same pose. I saw the pictures of the CollectA black gnu even before being posted here and I studied carefully the usual movement of the species. As I told before it is not an impossible pose but an unusual pose. I'm clever enough to see what all of you mean and I'll accept that a window is not a door even we can run away from it! :)

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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:10 pm

Thank You for the kind answer Roger! cat flower cat flower

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I don't see any picture with a graceful movement as in the figure, only the legs in the same pose.
I thought You meant pose of legs and that was why I searched examples. If not the gait (leg positions?) You meant then maybe neck and head? I think neck could be in lower position and head bigger to make it look more typical. Was that what You mean? :)

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OK :) I think I start to understand Very Happy Then what would You change in the pose of the figure? I'm asking just because I'm curious Embarassed What a Face

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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:25 pm

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I don't see any picture with a graceful movement as in the figure, only the legs in the same pose.
I thought You meant pose of legs and that was why I searched examples. If not the gait (leg positions?) You meant then maybe neck and head? I think neck could be in lower position and head bigger to make it look more typical. Was that what You mean? :)

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OK :) I think I start to understand Very Happy Then what would You change in the pose of the figure? I'm asking just because I'm curious Embarassed What a Face

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Very interesting imput! It is interesting seeing people that don't agree with me because don't see nothing like a horse in that figure and people showing me that gnus moves like horses!.
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Anna, you are a talented artist and you know that a pose is much more than the position of legs! I also can put my harms and legs n a quadrupedal pose like this gnu but it is not the same thing.
Unfortunately my wife is saying that I'm silly and don't want to take a picture of myself! Crying or Very sad Laughing
Christophe helped me a lot with his pictures. You see that the gnus running have a very heavy balance. They project the heavy mass of the front towards the floor and the back only follows the movement, sometimes with the two back legs paralel and sometimes spreed but always as a consequence of the strong movement and not of a graceful and coordinate walking. The plastic figure looks very light, almost flying like a pegasus! santa That's a beautiful effect, I agree! Of course a bigger head and in a lower position would contribute to this impression, also maybe a more massive body and maybe shorter legs! But it is very hard to see from only an angle. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:36 pm

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Anna, you are a talented artist and you know that a pose is much more than the position of legs! I also can put my harms and legs n a quadrupedal pose like this gnu but it is not the same thing.
Unfortunately my wife is saying that I'm silly and don't want to take a picture of myself! Crying or Very sad Laughing
Christophe helped me a lot with his pictures. You see that the gnus running have a very heavy balance. They project the heavy mass of the front towards the floor and the back only follows the movement, sometimes with the two back legs paralel and sometimes spreed but always as a consequence of the strong movement and not of a graceful and coordinate walking. The plastic figure looks very light, almost flying like a pegasus! santa That's a beautiful effect, I agree! Of course a bigger head and in a lower position would contribute to this impression, also maybe a more massive body and maybe shorter legs! But it is very hard to see from only an angle. Rolling Eyes
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Ok, I agree with that Roger, I also think it would be nice to see more "weight" in that figure Very Happy Earlier I didn't agree because I just didn't know what You meant scratch
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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:54 pm

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Anna, you are a talented artist and you know that a pose is much more than the position of legs! I also can put my harms and legs n a quadrupedal pose like this gnu but it is not the same thing.
Unfortunately my wife is saying that I'm silly and don't want to take a picture of myself! Crying or Very sad Laughing
Christophe helped me a lot with his pictures. You see that the gnus running have a very heavy balance. They project the heavy mass of the front towards the floor and the back only follows the movement, sometimes with the two back legs paralel and sometimes spreed but always as a consequence of the strong movement and not of a graceful and coordinate walking. The plastic figure looks very light, almost flying like a pegasus! santa That's a beautiful effect, I agree! Of course a bigger head and in a lower position would contribute to this impression, also maybe a more massive body and maybe shorter legs! But it is very hard to see from only an angle. Rolling Eyes
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Ok, I agree with that Roger, I also think it would be nice to see more "weight" in that figure Very Happy Earlier I didn't agree because I just didn't know what You meant scratch
But why Your wife didn't want to take this photo of You, it would be so great to see that Laughing Laughing Laughing monkey geek

affraid affraid Laughing I'll try again! cheers
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It means, never discuss with Anna about horses! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:14 pm

great debate! cheers

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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:23 pm

about the debate:I agree to Joan's Post.
No matter how perfectly sculpted a figurine is, a weird move or some wrong details and suddenly the whole impressive naturalness is reduced.
In my opinion, the move may be correct, bu to me it's a gnu startng with tha move, not already running for a while as it should be to act like that.
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with such horns sculpted, Collecta should be the brand to do the next an best wisent!
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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:30 pm

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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:57 pm

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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:59 pm

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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:03 pm

Look at the way those wildebeest move in the background cyclops cyclops cyclops isn't it incredible cheers

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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:05 pm

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My old and wonderful wise haunt is always saying, never discuss with a priest about religion! santa affraid
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or... scratch ... never discuss with a crocodile about gnus! geek LaughingWink

Very wise aunt indeed Laughing But she forgotten to say:" it's always good and funny to see a crocodile doing his best to look like white tailed gnu" albino monkey geek

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...a little correction, like the CollectA white tailed gnu, what means... like a horse! Laughing Wink
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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:11 pm

[quote="Kikimalou"]Look at the way those wildebeest move in the background cyclops cyclops cyclops isn't it incredible cheers

It's not the best video to watch a black gnu, I can send you loads of them! What is our crazy macaque seeing that looks incredible? monkey Now I'm curious! Suspect Wink
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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:16 pm

It's getting more and more complicated drunken drunken drunken drunken
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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:18 pm

Roger, what is incredible is... Nothing happen in this movie, drunken the gazelles are moving slowly in the savannah, Sleep then the gazelles are moving slowly Sleep ... And far away in the background, two small and insignificant white-tailed gnus are running against each other, like people who are making faces behind the "Great reporter" on tv news. This movie is incredible Laughing Laughing Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:27 pm

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Roger, what is incredible is... Nothing happen in this movie, drunken the gazelles are moving slowly in the savannah, Sleep then the gazelles are moving slowly Sleep ... And far away in the background, two small and insignificant white-tailed gnus are running against each other, like people who are making faces behind the "Great reporter" on tv news. This movie is incredible Laughing Laughing Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:43 pm

Still... I loooove his pose!! cheers cheers cheers cheers [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] , [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:57 pm

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PostSubject: Baltimore zoo   Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:36 am

The most artistic part of this figure, is the base of the horns. Like the texture.
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PostSubject: Re: CollectA 2012: Black Wildebeest (White Tailed-Gnu) Official Photo   Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:05 am

I'm buying this one for sure.

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