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PostSubject: S-Point : Four cars, an aeroplane and a fine box :-)   S-Point : the near fatal adventure of Schleich. EmptyTue Feb 07, 2012 9:25 pm

Sorry, these are not model animals, but they ARE from Schleich Wink

Perhaps they don`t really belong here in the forum, but I am so happy to have won them, that I just have to show them to you, my friends.
Also, I would very much like to learn more about them, perhaps some of our Schleich-experts can help ?

I got an aeroplane and a sportscar + 3 brightly coloured cars and some spare parts in a heavy, solid metal box.

Here are the cars.

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Volkswagen Sport, isn`t it ?
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Sportscar, I know 0 about cars, could it resemble some race-car perhaps?
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This "loose" car looks like the other one, but different colours
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An aeroplane.
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Here the box that 3 of the cars came in
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WoW! You found a really treasure cheers Big congrats Wink i saw these cars just for the first time, so i cant tell anything about them... did maybe come a instruction-paper with the suitcase?
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@Loridena wrote:
WoW! You found a really treasure cheers Big congrats Wink i saw these cars just for the first time, so i cant tell anything about them... did maybe come a instruction-paper with the suitcase?

Thankyou very much flower

No, there was no instruction in the box.
It doesn`t say anything on the outside either, it is white excpt for the logo scratch
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hmm, so its just a normal treasure, no information where it comes from what it exactly is Wink btw: your little white friend fits perfectly to the cars, like he would be waiting for somebody for taking a ride together Wink
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I think it must be from the 80ties.
At this time Schleich sold something like that.

A good find, congrats


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Thankyou very much Peter flower

@Loridena wrote:
....your little white friend fits perfectly to the cars, like he would be waiting for somebody for taking a ride together Wink

Laughing Laughing Laughing Westie is always where things happen Wink Laughing
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Congratulations Susanne!!! cheers cheers

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Curious treasure, Susanne! What are you really collecting? affraid
I suppose the cars don't intend to represent any specific car but only a kind of car. study
Of course the 2 last are race cars! :)
The colours remember me the Fiat from Noddy but that's another vehicle!
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@Roger wrote:
Curious treasure, Susanne! What are you really collecting? affraid

Laughing Laughing I collect old, funny Schleich, - like silly bendies and Erika-giraffes and... scratch the nativity set, and ...

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@Roger wrote:
Curious treasure, Susanne! What are you really collecting? affraid
Everything Laughing

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@SUSANNE wrote:
@Roger wrote:
Curious treasure, Susanne! What are you really collecting? affraid

Laughing Laughing I collect old, funny Schleich, - like silly bendies and Erika-giraffes and... scratch the nativity set, and ...

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lol! lol! lol!
What the...Susanne,what's this? Shocked Suspect You really collect EVERYTHING! lol!
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Well, I've never seen or heard of these cars and plane before! They must be pretty rare?! Congratulations Susanne cheers
Is the fruit bendie/soft toy an apple or a pear?

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Thankyou, Harriet cheers
I think they are rare, I have only seen them in Schleich `s 75-year anniversary-book .

That bendie....hmmm scratch
It is not a banana, and it is not a cherry...

Idea I think it is a lemon Shocked drunken Laughing Laughing Laughing
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@SUSANNE wrote:

Idea I think it is a lemon Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing
That was my first thought also... Suspect Laughing
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Congratulations Susanne!
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Congratulations Susanne. I have some of the cars and I believe the airplane. Mine did not have the case that yours has. I do have one that came in a box. Great additions. The case is awesome. I will try to find them and take some photos for you to see. I am not sure on the history of them though. I just thought they were neat.
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Thankyou Amy cheers

How great to have a fellow-crazy-collector here again lol! lol!
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@SUSANNE wrote:
@Roger wrote:
Curious treasure, Susanne! What are you really collecting? affraid

Laughing Laughing I collect old, funny Schleich, - like silly bendies and Erika-giraffes and... scratch the nativity set, and ...

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lol! lol! lol!

:lol! : affraid lol!

I love John, he really is John! What a Face Yes, John! study John Lemon! geek clown
Do you collect Beetles and Beatles too? flower
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@Roger wrote:
....I love John, he really is John! What a Face Yes, John! study John Lemon! geek clown
Do you collect Beetles and Beatles too? flower

Laughing Laughing Of course his name is John Lemmon cheers Laughing

No, I don`t collect Beatles, - but I have an Elvis Presley from Schleich Shocked
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Da-daaa, - I found out what happened to these cheers

It seems that Schleich sold the product line, and they are now called mic-o-mic Shocked

Here is a page from their catalogue Very Happy

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You can see more of them * here *

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And then suddenly a thought struck me Shocked Idea Shocked Auch !!! geek scratch

Yes...I remebered right.
I do have some of the little figures that fit to this product line cheers
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The red elefants are marked Schleich 86. The others don`t have a mark scratch Very Happy
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I would say, that mic-o-mic produced in the past for Schleich and then later for themselves.
As you know, many manufactures produced Schleich articles.
ARI, Safari LTD, Maja and Borges, AAA, Bullyland ....
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I don`t think so.
If you look in the round book ( "Anywhere`s a playground" from the 75 years jubilee ) page 71, it says that Schleich invested several million D-mark in the production of this new line.
My German isn`t very good, but doesn`t it also say that the product was invented by Friedrich Schleich ?

The products that Schleich sold from other manufacturers weren`t marked Schleich either scratch
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The Idea came from Schleich.
But produced from other.
Like the Farmer figurines 13412, 13413... from the manufacture ARI.
Ore the Coralle fishes from Maya and Borges. They are all marked Schleich.
They all produced fore some years for Schleich and then they produced the same figurines without the marking Schleich in their own names.
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Thankyou VERY much, Peter ! flower sunny flower

I never knew that Schleich didn`t make the fish or the little farmers with " real" clothes cheers
Very, very good to know Very Happy

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:) :)

Big congratulations Susanne.

cheers cheers This puzzles vehicles are magestic cheers cheers

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Wow! Fernando, your collection of puzzels is wonderful cheers

My fingers itch to try making them bounce bounce Very Happy
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Didn´t saw them before... Great adition, Susanne! I like them so colourfull... Congrats :)

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Fascinating figurines, Susanne - thanks for posting photos... :)
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@schmidtchenschleich wrote:
The Idea came from Schleich.
But produced from other.
Like the Farmer figurines 13412, 13413... from the manufacture ARI.
Ore the Coralle fishes from Maya and Borges. They are all marked Schleich.
They all produced fore some years for Schleich and then they produced the same figurines without the marking Schleich in their own names.

This is also true of the plush dinosaur line from 1994. These were made by the American stuffed toy maker Gund. They can be found here in the USA with "Gund" tags, but also, of course, in EU with "Schleich" tags.....
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In my big book of schleich it says the company produced them in 1982. its success was elusive. were they too expensive, too mplicated, or jusco unequal to competition? nobody at schleich had a clue so this was the failure of the s point congrats and hope this helps
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@pipi6 wrote:
In my big book of schleich it says the company produced them in 1982. its success was elusive. were they too expensive, too mplicated, or jusco unequal to competition? nobody at schleich had a clue so this was the failure of the s point congrats and hope this helps

Thankyou VERY much for your info, Pipi flower sunny cheers

I also got some information. Just have to get it translated.
It seems that these models almost caused Schleich to go bankrupt, because their investments were so huge, and, as you say, the success was very limited . Shocked

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A while ago I got some funny, old Schleich cars and an aeroplane.
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Nobody seemed to know much about them, so I asked Thomas01, who is an expert in the really old Schleich products.
He kindly sent me several photoes and articles about them, and he has also helped me understand the German writing, has corrected some mistakes I made, and added important data ;-)

From the book ”Anywhere`s a playground” I understand, that in the early 1980s Schleich decided to develop a completely new product range in order to become independent of the ”Licence products”.

From 1982 till 1985 they invested several million Deutsche Mark in the devalopment of machines, moulds and tools for this new product : The S-point !
Further, during `84 they spent enormous sums building up stock in order to meet the expected demand for this great new toy.

In the early ´80s, a million D-Mark was an awful lot of money.

It is worth to notice that the designers was ”team Micklitz”.
Klaus Mickliz is now designing for the present brand name, Mic-o-mic.

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The thickness of the material, and the desired quality ( no grates, completely uniform surface), made it very hard to produce, but the company ”Bun-Plast” had the technology required.

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They also spent a lot on marketing and promotion.


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In February 1985 the great day arrived, and S-Point was introduced on the toy fair in Nürnberg. Everyone was exited, and even more large sums were invested in marketing material
Invitations were sent out

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Dealers were offered to ask for samples :

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A huge success was expected

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Herman Schneider, the successful manager of Schleich since 1976, presenting S-point at the Fair, - proud and confident !

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The produch was prised for the idea behind the concept

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Nobody suspected the the dramatic consequences the S-Point would have for Schleich.

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The marked failed completely ! None of the expected succes came.

Perhaps the product was too expensive ? Or the competition too well established ?
With the enormous investments in S-Point, Schleich was in serious problems.
And then the market for the Smurfs collapsed !

In January 1987 Schleich was declared Bankrupt !

The product S-point, which we barely know today, cold have put an end to Schleich, - and there wouldn`t have been an STS today :-o

However, through hard work from employees, leaders and supplyers and other business partners, Schleich rose from the ruins, - but that is another story ;-)

As we know, Mic-o-mic is now making and selling the models.
About 30 years have passed, but Klaus Mickliz, who was one of the original designers for Schleich, is still designing them.

Even if many of the models made by Schleich are still being produced, Mic-o-mic never mentions a word about the dramatic background of their toys Crying or Very sad

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How interesting! It´s a pity I don´t understand German. But anyway thank you Susanne!

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I quite like the S-point products! Thanks for sharing!
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I am happy you find it interesting Very Happy


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How interesting! It´s a pity I don´t understand German. But anyway thank you Susanne!

I tried to write a little of the most essential in English, I think it would be horribly booring if I translated it all Wink

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Thanks for the wonderful photos and information. You are our old Schleich investigator.
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@aandmkw wrote:
Thanks for the wonderful photos and information. You are our old Schleich investigator.

Ohhh, thankyou Embarassed Laughing Laughing

There are many who know a lot more than I do Wink

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Thank you for posting this fascinating topic, Susanne. Great "sleuthing" resulting in a most interesting story... :)
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It is a nice looking toy, it might have done a little better if teach vehicle was a single color instead of the mixed. Hard to say, there are many of these building systems that have been tried and few done really well except for LEGO
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Thank you very much Susanne, for taking the time to gather this information together! It's very interesting! bounce study

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I am thrilled that you find it interesting cheers
I did take many, many hours, and I almost gave up, - but then Thomas01 voluntered to come to my rescue and helped me understand the most difficult of the German passages study study cheers

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That is so interesting!!!! Thanks for the wonderful article Susanne! cheers

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thank you for this history lesson!

@Tiermann wrote:
It is a nice looking toy, it might have done a little better if teach vehicle was a single color instead of the mixed. Hard to say, there are many of these building systems that have been tried and few done really well except for LEGO
i was thinking the same thing. i wonder what test marketing they did? it looks harder to put together than Legos, so it would not be appropriate for very small children, but the multi- primary colors and the round edges make it look "baby-ish" which would be a turn-off for older children. and all those lovely small edible pieces would concern parents.
funny how legos are just as edible, but it seems to be so accepted that Legos will be eaten that it's not a concern.


in any event, never a good idea to try to go head to head with Lego.

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@Mastiffcat wrote:
....i wonder what test marketing they did? it looks harder to put together than Legos, so it would not be appropriate for very small children, but the multi- primary colors and the round edges make it look "baby-ish" which would be a turn-off for older children. and all those lovely small edible pieces would concern parents.
funny how legos are just as edible, but it seems to be so accepted that Legos will be eaten that it's not a concern.


in any event, never a good idea to try to go head to head with Lego.

Yes, Lego and others were very strong then .

They did tests with children, and the result was very promising.

Perhaps the market wasn`t ready for that kind of design, - Moc-o-mic is doing very well with exactly the same concept and many of the same models these days.

Or perhaps they were too expensive. Perhaps they tried to gain their investments back too fast...and looking at the box I got mine in..WOW! it must ahve been expensive Shocked

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:) :)

Thanks susanne, interesting history


Schleich: animals..smurfs....puzzles

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Yesterday I got some Schleich s - point tiles.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Raritat-70ern-Schleich-Modelle-Bausatze-Ersatzteile-Sammler-selten-/260991894855?pt=Figuren&hash=item3cc4544547

This tiles I got. I think I can build one of two cars with this pieces, but I don`t know how. Sad
Has someone an instrucktion for S - Point Cars? Or do someone know where I can get S - Point instrucktions or more informations? (I know the Threads here in the forum)
I hope you can help me. Wink
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I will try to look through my boxes and see if any of them have instructions.
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Is the s point a company?

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