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PostSubject: Display: "Tropic forests (jungle) animals" (South Asia, America, Australia) - Details    Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:46 am

Hi, friends! This is details of landskape "Jungle animals"... Very Happy And what you think about nice Papo,s tiger?


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PostSubject: Re: Display: "Tropic forests (jungle) animals" (South Asia, America, Australia) - Details    Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:52 am

Thanks for your pics! You have a nice collection and someone showing pandas!
Some days ago I was asking about the nicest tiger of 5 main brands and people in this forum told me that the Papo walking tiger is actually the best of the market. I'm still waiting form mine!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Display: "Tropic forests (jungle) animals" (South Asia, America, Australia) - Details    Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:10 am

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Thanks for your pics! You have a nice collection and someone showing pandas!
Some days ago I was asking about the nicest tiger of 5 main brands and people in this forum told me that the Papo walking tiger is actually the best of the market. I'm still waiting form mine!!!


I,m agree! And I think Papos,s jaguars the best too! Wink In general Papo,s wild cats are the best (dinamic, plastic models), but Schleich has the best horses, dogs, giraffas, elephants and many others... Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Display: "Tropic forests (jungle) animals" (South Asia, America, Australia) - Details    Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:36 pm

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I,m agree! And I think Papos,s jaguars the best too! Wink In general Papo,s wild cats are the best (dinamic, plastic models), but Schleich has the best horses, dogs, giraffas, elephants and many others... Wink

I also think, like a lot here that Papo's wild cats are the best. But, about the jaguar, some here convinced me that the Scleich one is more realistic... It's true ! The Papo I loved have got a too long tail and is not bulky enough...Shocked But it is so alive cat .

I don't like too much the Schleich elephants, IMHO they are too chubby, with chubby tails. Among the modern manufacturers, I prefer the Papos or the Bullylands Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Display: "Tropic forests (jungle) animals" (South Asia, America, Australia) - Details    Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:27 pm

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I,m agree! And I think Papos,s jaguars the best too! Wink In general Papo,s wild cats are the best (dinamic, plastic models), but Schleich has the best horses, dogs, giraffas, elephants and many others... Wink

I also think, like a lot here that Papo's wild cats are the best. But, about the jaguar, some here convinced me that the Scleich one is more realistic... It's true ! The Papo I loved have got a too long tail and is not bulky enough...Shocked But it is so alive cat .

I don't like too much the Schleich elephants, IMHO they are too chubby, with chubby tails. Among the modern manufacturers, I prefer the Papos or the Bullylands Wink

...Oh I had forget! The best elephant is elephant from "Vanish Collection" by Safari Ltd. I had see it on Admin,s display not long ago! "Das is fantastish!" Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Display: "Tropic forests (jungle) animals" (South Asia, America, Australia) - Details    Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:48 am

I have the Schleich Jaguar and I think that in general is good. But I think the sculpting is correct in proportions but poor in details, without muscles look at the legs, mainly back legs! I know that jags are massive but it is some fat... the Papos seems to have a long tail like a leopard and shouldn't have but the body sculpting looks nice... but I need to have one in my hands...
About Schleich Asian elephants I think they are outdated and it's some strange the brown colouring in the African... or maybe I'm wrong!
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PostSubject: Re: Display: "Tropic forests (jungle) animals" (South Asia, America, Australia) - Details    Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:34 am

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I have the Schleich Jaguar and I think that in general is good. But I think the sculpting is correct in proportions but poor in details, without muscles look at the legs, mainly back legs! I know that jags are massive but it is some fat... the Papos seems to have a long tail like a leopard and shouldn't have but the body sculpting looks nice... but I need to have one in my hands...
About Schleich Asian elephants I think they are outdated and it's some strange the brown colouring in the African... or maybe I'm wrong!


...By the way - I,m agree in general that Papo,s jaguar more like leopard from zoological morphology... May be it, s mistake? Wink


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PostSubject: Re: Display: "Tropic forests (jungle) animals" (South Asia, America, Australia) - Details    Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:48 am

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...By the way - I,m agree in general that Papo,s jaguar more like leopard from zoological morphology... Ma be it, s mistake? Wink

With a good painting it could be a very fine clouded leopard Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Display: "Tropic forests (jungle) animals" (South Asia, America, Australia) - Details    Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:45 am

Christophe, painting ideas are nice for painters but in this jaguar we had to rebuilt it, again the tail... and scale!
The painting of the Papo jaguar is of a jaguar, the sculpting looks really very near of a leopard, longer legs, smaller head but I only know it from catalogue and web!
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PostSubject: Re: Display: "Tropic forests (jungle) animals" (South Asia, America, Australia) - Details    Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:36 am

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I,m agree! And I think Papos,s jaguars the best too! Wink In general Papo,s wild cats are the best (dinamic, plastic models), but Schleich has the best horses, dogs, giraffas, elephants and many others... Wink

I also think, like a lot here that Papo's wild cats are the best. But, about the jaguar, some here convinced me that the Scleich one is more realistic... It's true ! The Papo I loved have got a too long tail and is not bulky enough...Shocked But it is so alive cat .

I don't like too much the Schleich elephants, IMHO they are too chubby, with chubby tails. Among the modern manufacturers, I prefer the Papos or the Bullylands Wink

... By the way about "chubby"... Wink Exactly Schleich,s jaguar is jaguar on zoological morphology...But! It,s "chubby", sleek, fat and very statical... Is it right? Wink Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Display: "Tropic forests (jungle) animals" (South Asia, America, Australia) - Details    Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:47 am

There's still the Safari Jaguar, in catalogue looks very massive and with a similar shape to Schleich one. The pose is slightly different, is more dynamic because it's a walking pose. But, like Papo one I never had it in my hands. Maybe Christophe could help us in this question with its fabulous pics
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PostSubject: Re: Display: "Tropic forests (jungle) animals" (South Asia, America, Australia) - Details    Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:14 pm

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... By the way about "chubby"... Wink Exactly Schleich,s jaguar is jaguar on zoological morphology...But! It,s "chubby", sleek, fat and very statical... Is it right? Wink Wink

It's true Sergey and I must say I'm not a fan of Schleich wild cats but I changed my mind for the jaguar because of zoological morphology considerations Wink
It's more a jaguar, even chubby, than the Papo, even not chubby and so alive...

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There's still the Safari Jaguar, in catalogue looks very massive and with a similar shape to Schleich one. The pose is slightly different, is more dynamic because it's a walking pose. But, like Papo one I never had it in my hands. Maybe Christophe could help us in this question with its fabulous pics

Thanks for the "fabulous pics" Roger Very Happy

Alas i don't have the Safari one No But here are some pics of the Papo and Schleich together.

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PostSubject: Re: Display: "Tropic forests (jungle) animals" (South Asia, America, Australia) - Details    Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:34 pm

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... By the way about "chubby"... Wink Exactly Schleich,s jaguar is jaguar on zoological morphology...But! It,s "chubby", sleek, fat and very statical... Is it right? Wink Wink

It's true Sergey and I must say I'm not a fan of Schleich wild cats but I changed my mind for the jaguar because of zoological morphology considerations Wink
It's more a jaguar, even chubby, than the Papo, even not chubby and so alive...

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There's still the Safari Jaguar, in catalogue looks very massive and with a similar shape to Schleich one. The pose is slightly different, is more dynamic because it's a walking pose. But, like Papo one I never had it in my hands. Maybe Christophe could help us in this question with its fabulous pics

Thanks for the "fabulous pics" Roger Very Happy

Alas i don't have the Safari one No But here are some pics of the Papo and Schleich together.

...Thank you very murch, "Kiki" for your nice pics of jagurs!!! Laughing Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Display: "Tropic forests (jungle) animals" (South Asia, America, Australia) - Details    Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:25 am

Here one more with Safari Jaguar.

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PostSubject: Re: Display: "Tropic forests (jungle) animals" (South Asia, America, Australia) - Details    Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:45 am

Thanks Christophe and Ken!!!
This pics are very helpful! For me the general shape of a figurine is the most important point. I have no doubt that Papo has not a jaguar sculpting but I don't know why it is very beautifull! I'm confused but first is the shape. When I look at a pig with a zebra painting what I see is a pig and not a zebra!
And Ken... what about your oppinion???
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PostSubject: Re: Display: "Tropic forests (jungle) animals" (South Asia, America, Australia) - Details    Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:59 am

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Thanks Christophe and Ken!!!
This pics are very helpful! For me the general shape of a figurine is the most important point. I have no doubt that Papo has not a jaguar sculpting but I don't know why it is very beautifull! I'm confused but first is the shape. When I look at a pig with a zebra painting what I see is a pig and not a zebra!
And Ken... what about your oppinion???



Laughing Laughing Laughing ...Papo,s jaguar-leopard is very beautifull because... it most plastic, muscular, dinamic! But realy... LEOPARD! Laughing Laughing Laughing I had buy two at once all the same! sunny

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PostSubject: Re: Display: "Tropic forests (jungle) animals" (South Asia, America, Australia) - Details    Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:21 am

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Thanks Christophe and Ken!!!
This pics are very helpful! For me the general shape of a figurine is the most important point. I have no doubt that Papo has not a jaguar sculpting but I don't know why it is very beautifull! I'm confused but first is the shape. When I look at a pig with a zebra painting what I see is a pig and not a zebra!
And Ken... what about your oppinion???



Laughing Laughing Laughing ...Papo,s jaguar-leopard is very beautifull because... it most plastic, muscular, dinamic! But realy... LEOPARD! Laughing Laughing Laughing I had buy two at once all the same! sunny


all the while I thought "Papo" Jaguar never expect to be something else and maybe the head is a bit small cyclops cyclops
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PostSubject: Re: Display: "Tropic forests (jungle) animals" (South Asia, America, Australia) - Details    Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:14 pm

My wife saw the pics with the jags faces and said... "you are comparing a toy (Schleich) with a collectible (Papo)!!!"
Maybe like Sergey is saying we have a nice toy of a Jaguar and a very graceful leopard!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Display: "Tropic forests (jungle) animals" (South Asia, America, Australia) - Details    Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:42 pm

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My wife saw the pics with the jags faces and said... "you are comparing a toy (Schleich) with a collectible (Papo)!!!"
Maybe like Sergey is saying we have a nice toy of a Jaguar and a very graceful leopard!!!

A very graceful leopard with a bad jaguar painting.

Again, since the Papo jaguar is smaller than the leopard it could do a fantastic repainted clouded leopard Cool

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PostSubject: Re: Display: "Tropic forests (jungle) animals" (South Asia, America, Australia) - Details    Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:12 pm

Rolling Eyes Again, since the Papo jaguar is smaller than the leopard it could do a fantastic repainted clouded leopard Cool [/quote]

Well! I have an idea for a clouded leopard.
The 100 users from this forum change the age for about 8 or ten years old and as most of us want a clouded, maybe Schleich will pay atention because children is its market!
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PostSubject: Re: Display: "Tropic forests (jungle) animals" (South Asia, America, Australia) - Details    Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:15 pm

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Well! I have an idea for a clouded leopard.
The 100 users from this forum change the age for about 8 or ten years old and as most of us want a clouded, maybe Schleich will pay atention because children is its market!

But I don't want a Schleich chubby clouded leopard. I need a Papo one cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Display: "Tropic forests (jungle) animals" (South Asia, America, Australia) - Details    Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:30 pm

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My wife saw the pics with the jags faces and said... "you are comparing a toy (Schleich) with a collectible (Papo)!!!"
Maybe like Sergey is saying we have a nice toy of a Jaguar and a very graceful leopard!!!

A very graceful leopard with a bad jaguar painting.

Again, since the Papo jaguar is smaller than the leopard it could do a fantastic repainted clouded leopard Cool
That's a great idea Christophe, I'd really like to try that Very Happy


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PostSubject: Re: Display: "Tropic forests (jungle) animals" (South Asia, America, Australia) - Details    Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:09 pm

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Well! I have an idea for a clouded leopard.
The 100 users from this forum change the age for about 8 or ten years old and as most of us want a clouded, maybe Schleich will pay atention because children is its market!
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy That's what I call an extraordinary marketing solution! And pro-active approach. :)
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PostSubject: Re: Display: "Tropic forests (jungle) animals" (South Asia, America, Australia) - Details    Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:52 am

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Well! I have an idea for a clouded leopard.
The 100 users from this forum change the age for about 8 or ten years old and as most of us want a clouded, maybe Schleich will pay atention because children is its market!
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy That's what I call an extraordinary marketing solution! And pro-active approach. :)

We should let them know!
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PostSubject: Jaguars and Leopards (Papo, Schleich and Safari)   Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:05 am

I was about to start a new topic complaining a little about the Papo Jaguar. However, I decided to wait and start by searching past STS threads in case my complaint had been raised and discussed already. And as it turns it out, it has. (It's been discussed several places in fact, but primarily here on this thread.) So instead of creating a new thread, I'll just tack my complaints onto this one, so that most of the discussion about this issue is contained in one place. Unfortunately for me, that means that most everything I'm about to say has already been said earlier in this thread. Even the photos I prepared are repetitive. Oh well...(indulge me).

The complaint is basically that the Papo Jaguar -- despite how absolutely beautiful a figure it is -- does not seem to possess the physical traits characteristic of a jaguar. I'm thinking, in particular, about its physical proportions: compared with a leopard, the jaguar has a larger head relative to its body, a shorter tail, and is more stocky and compact. The Papo Jaguar (again, while a lovely sculpt) is basically, to my eyes, a Leopard painted to look like a Jaguar.

A picture of the Papo Jaguar, with pictures of Leopards after:

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now some JAGUARS.

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and finally, notice how much better Schleich and Safari's Jaguars capture the correct proportions.

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I think the Papo Leopard (the stalking sculpt not pictured here) is possibly the best Leopard on the market. But if they re-painted their Jaguar as a Leopard, and did it right, they'd have an even better Leopard figure and by far the best I've seen. That would also open up a space in their catalog for a new Jaguar and it would be wonderful to see what they would come up with. Papo, are you listening?.... (sigh. I didn't think so.)





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