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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:47 pm

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btw: what creature shows it's head and some parts of it's ears on the right side of the pictures? bounce question

WOW! YES !!!!!!

Is it a mastodon ???????? bounce bounce drunken

It's a Deinotherium, I think What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:56 pm

Impressive figure but I think like Joan, the head does not have to be so straight .. should have it a little more horizontal, always in my humble opinion
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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:07 pm

I like him! I don't know a lot about Sloths, but his head and neck position look much like the little schoolboy Sloth. Mojo has a slight hint of a smile. I think he needs a bigger smile. :)

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:49 pm

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Hey guys, I think I can offer some ideas because there are some sloths on the neighborhood I live (in fact, a cousin of mine literally has one of them living in a tree in front of in her bedroom's window).
Sloths do basically two things their whole life: they sleep and eat. When sleeping, they really go upside down for hours... BUT when they feed (or climb), they enjoy a good sitting. So, the position is not absurd.
With all due respect, I don't like it looking down, "lazier" position. Inspite the name, they are not lazy at all, They do look downward, but it is not common (there isn't much for them on the floor). They prefer to look upwards, because there are the leaves they need.
I enjoyed the prototype Mojo presented, and I'll gladly place it in my collection, but the pose is, indeed, unnatural. If it's a problem, a good option would be placing its head upwards over one shoulder (pretty much like an egyptian figure) and, if possible, rasing one of its arms, as if it was trying to get a leaf or found a branch and is moving towards it. When they they do such moves they even strecht their claws, which would certainly give character to the figurine.
That's something near what I'm thinking:
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Thanks for the info! I think this model looks wonderful. I just think he shoudnt look like he is so alert. They are lazy animals and to bend the back a little would make it perfect! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:38 pm

@SUSANNE wrote:
@PeGe wrote:
btw: what creature shows it's head and some parts of it's ears on the right side of the pictures? bounce question

WOW! YES !!!!!!

Is it a mastodon ???????? bounce bounce drunken
Deinotherium head??!! Super!!
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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:03 pm

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Like Scott says, it COULD "hang" a bit more ( I can`t spell slor..slou..hang Wink ).

By 'slouch' I meant exactly what others have said -- that is, to have the back more curved. If I'm understanding Joan's suggestion (and photoshopped pictures), it is to put the head lower (and not actually make the head smaller). That makes the spine curve (and the sloth slouch). As Kristie puts it, he looks a bit like a proper schoolboy. In America, sometimes we smack teenagers and tell them not to slouch so much. (Kidding about the smacking.)

I like what ze_neto (José, right?) said a lot though. If the animal were somehow reaching slightly, that might be perfect. In any case, it doesn't need to look lazy to look more relaxed. And most importantly, I think it looks great as it is. I think many of us clearly think it's wonderful, but that, when we are being asked to be critical, we have noticed that the figure looks a bit more upright in its posture than we would expect from a sloth. A "reaching" pose might solve this problem.

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:47 pm

A lot of things, good things Wink , have already been said about the pose and I can agree with Scott, José...

My problem, yes I have one, is the head I guess. I was searching for a few days now and maybe I find what disturbed me first. I really like the big snout of this unau model but maybe the eyes need to be a bit bigger and closer to the snout ?

Nevertheless, a looking upward head would be great Wink








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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:14 pm



i do like the sloth
i see when i see the puma,
MOJO is on his way to become big,very big

fantastic animals they make
can't wait to see more of the collection

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:21 am

Not sure, but I almost feel that maybe the head should tilt a little bit to one side, like it is considering moving, or a leaf to eat. The reaching is a good suggestion. I just love the fur detail! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:47 am

Very cute!

I agree with Christophe, the eyes need to be lower down, nearer the snout and slightly bigger too. I love Joan's customising work.

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:25 am

@Kikimalou wrote:
A lot of things, good things Wink , have already been said about the pose and I can agree with Scott, José...

My problem, yes I have one, is the head I guess. I was searching for a few days now and maybe I find what disturbed me first. I really like the big snout of this unau model but maybe the eyes need to be a bit bigger and closer to the snout ?

Nevertheless, a looking upward head would be great Wink

I'm agreed with Christophe.
seeing the pictures Christophe post I think the snout is too bulky and too sunken eyes. It would seem better if the whole face was flatter, without so much relief.
I think also that Ze comments are very useful.
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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:35 am

I vote for the tilted head and raising arm.
Plus the head looks bizzarely unnatral. Change the eyes and possibly the facial hair.

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:54 am

I am very impressed by the comments, but also a little confused, esp about the face. scratch

Are we all remembering that we are talking about * the southern two toed sloth * ?

José, WOW! You have these lovely and strange creatures where you live affraid
Well, of course SOMBODY have them around, - to me sloths are like a fairytale, so it is an eye-opener to realize that you do Laughing

I will never forget once I visited some friends in USA, and they had both a possum and a racoon in the garden now and then Laughing Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:20 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:43 pm

Oh, this is fantastic model!! can´t wait!! cheers cheers cheers cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:15 pm

Susanne, I live close to a piece of the Atlantic Forest, so many animals can be spotted. In my backyard there are some opossums and marmosets; there are caymans on a nearby canal There are some squirrels on the forest, but unlike those of Northern Hemisphere they're totally shy almost never show themselves.
I really like the sloths. They're lovely animals and, as I said before, not lazy at all.

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I am very impressed by the comments, but also a little confused, esp about the face. scratch

Are we all remembering that we are talking about * the southern two toed sloth * ?

José, WOW! You have these lovely and strange creatures where you live affraid
Well, of course SOMBODY have them around, - to me sloths are like a fairytale, so it is an eye-opener to realize that you do Laughing

I will never forget once I visited some friends in USA, and they had both a possum and a racoon in the garden now and then Laughing Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:38 am

Thanks to all that are helping in the review, I'm sure we will end all proud of our contributions. Joan, good photoshops are very appreciated in Mojo Kingdom! Very Happy
Next days my free time will be very limited so here goes my humble contribution. Very Happy

POSE
Although it was not my favorite pose once I wanted it walking or dragging I must say that I like the sitting pose, it is even more common than the pose I wanted. 2-toed sloths are nocturnal mammals and as José pointed they usually take a good sitting to eat. It happens often in sloths life but, as two-toed sloths are nocturnal creatures obviously it is hard to find pictures of it. The sitting pose is a good choice for us and the brand now we must find a way to make it look natural. They seem to find a sitting pose that makes them to look like a nest as you can see in some pictures previously here posted. That's the pose we need to work and we are happy seeing a modern brand making a sloth. Very Happy

Proportions
As it is hard to find pictures matching the pose it is also hard to judge the proportions. The head looks some big to me, however we don't know the size of the figure and the head would turn too small to make a detailed face.
Two-toed sloths have all limbs almost the same size in opposition to three-toed sloths but I think only Mojo can check it. To me it looks the arms are longer than the legs but it can be only illusive.

Snout
When we cannot see the claws on forelimbs we can distinguish both genus of sloths by the lack of a tail in 2-toed sloths or seeing the snout. As Susanne pointed correctly, 2-toed sloths have somewhat proeminent snouts being not as flatened as in 3-toed. So if we enshorten it too much we loose one of the characteristics of this creature.

EYES
I also agree that eyes need to be larger and closer to the snout. Maybe not placing the eyes lower on face but the snout in a higher on a more central position in relation to the head. Also the eys need to drop like surrounding the snout but first we need to get a good pose and proportions and I'm sure the details of the face are the last to be developed.

FUR
I think the work with the fur is very good, the inversion of the fur is correctly done and the hairs are long enough once 2-toed sloths have them longer than 3-toed sloths.

Some pictures of 2-toed sloths


My favourite pose, Hoffmann's



Hoffmann's face - very similar


Close up of the face of a Linne's


Hoffmann's in a tree


Linne's sloth

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:39 am

O MY WOW
FANTASTIC !!!!! CANT WAIT TO HAVE IT TOO......
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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:47 am

I think everything is ok except the eyes need to be bigger. Anyway still a prototype!
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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:20 pm

Thank you for sharing the pictures Roger cheers This is a really exciting project! I greatly admire Mojo for their collaboration with us collectors!

I think making the minor changes mentioned would make this perfect, a brilliant sculpt already!!

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PostSubject: sloth   Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:14 pm

lets not forget the super rare K&M record breakers tube three-toed sloth


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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:14 pm

Wonderful specie I love you I love you Very Happy So wonderful to see the work in progress. Work on so nice and cute figure Very Happy Hooray for Mojo cheers cheers

First when I saw this sloth figure I thought: absolutely phenomenal specie choice drunken , beautiful details sunny and so cute face cat
... but
... but
... but for the pose I would prefer classic hanging....
Yes, well, I still think I would prefer hanging pose but I'm getting use to this sitting one. I think it is good. And after small changes on face and perhaps neck, as our friends suggest, this model will be really amazing I think Very Happy

A Sloth living in the garden? Wow this must be great Ze neto drunken Very Happy I must say I'm green on envy alien alien Wink Green as a fur on some sloth's back Wink bounce


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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:11 am

@ana wrote:

A Sloth living in the garden? Wow this must be great Ze neto drunken Very Happy I must say I'm green on envy alien alien Wink Green as a fur on some sloth's back Wink bounce

My wife said she doesn't envy anybody, she said she had a sloth in her house... But where is he... I don't know confused Laughing Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:50 am

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@ana wrote:

A Sloth living in the garden? Wow this must be great Ze neto drunken Very Happy I must say I'm green on envy alien alien Wink Green as a fur on some sloth's back Wink bounce

My wife said she doesn't envy anybody, she said she had a sloth in her house... But where is he... I don't know confused Laughing Laughing

lol! lol! lol!
Very domesticated sloth I guess Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:15 pm

It does not live exactly on her garden, but in a tree right in front of her bedroom window. But it wouldn't be a problem: sloths can live almost their entire life in two trees, as long as those can provide food.
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@ana wrote:

A Sloth living in the garden? Wow this must be great Ze neto drunken Very Happy I must say I'm green on envy alien alien Wink Green as a fur on some sloth's back Wink bounce

My wife said she doesn't envy anybody, she said she had a sloth in her house... But where is he... I don't know confused Laughing Laughing

lol! lol! lol!
Very domesticated sloth I guess Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:13 pm

what an exciting project!
i pretty much know squat about sloths, but is his neck too long and/or too well-defined? i get a strong feeling of shoulders-neck-head like a primate, whereas the neck does not stand out as a feature when i look at sloths. maybe if he were stretching his head up, but looking forward like that, it just doesn't feel right to me. but as i said, my knowledge of sloths is almost zero...

i have to confess, sloth faces kind of creep me out, like they're Zombie Chihuahuas from Outer Space.
But i will get this figure, since i'm sworn to buy all figures made with STS's help.

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:48 am

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I have to confess, sloth faces kind of creep me out, like they're Zombie Chihuahuas from Outer Space.
But i will get this figure, since i'm sworn to buy all figures made with STS's help.

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:53 am

Aaaaarrrrhhhhwwww I love you I love you drunken

I want one Very Happy cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:50 pm

Here's a short message from James, which explains the pose with sticking claws into the branch...
"One of the most important areas on the Sloth is the claws, they must look sharp and long as this is a characteristic of
this particular animal. The problem we faced was how to show the details of the claws whilst still passing safety requirements for toys. If the claws are too long and sharp then it will fail as a toy (due to sharp points), so freeing a hand from the tree would mean shortening the claws to restrict sharp points and so enabling the animal to pass safety requirements. Also, another potential problem with the claws protruding too much was the moulding - they could deform when removed from the mould, so making them a little shorter in order to reduce problems when removing the model from the mould would have been another outcome of having 1 hand free. Hence although I agree completely that this would have added to the aesthetic nature of the Sloth and greatly increased his movement, unfortunately this wasn't an option.

By having all 4 limbs on the branches we were able to highlight this
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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:24 am

Those reasons did not even occur to me, but really do make sense, we don't want little kids poking each other's eyes out now do we? Wink And I can see the problem with models going deformed... that would waste time, effort, and money hoping for good figures to come out and most not coming out so well. I agree with the pose then. Thank you skysthelimit for the info.
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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:07 am

That really makes sense. Honestly, probably the very first thing I noticed when I saw the original pictures Roger posted were the absolutely gorgeous, long claws. It would be a shame not to see those clearly.

Thank you for posting that, Robert!

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:16 am

We only concern about details and forget about safety for children. Thanks for telling us.
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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:47 am

Thankyou to James for telling and to Robert for passing it om cheers

I learned something, and it is SO interesting to get a glimpse into the magic world of designing model animals study

As Wolfiehound says, we were not pleased with all the delays we have seen this year !

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:07 am

Very interesting point and very interesting topic. Thank you Mr. James for showing the pics, asking for our points and giving excellent explanation about toy creation process Very Happy

I will, and I'm sure I will not be the only one, look at my shelves with new eyes now.

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:55 am

Thanks Robert! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:16 am

Thank you Robert, and Mr. James! Very interesting view into the world of toy design.

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:20 am

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I beg to differ

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:09 am

Do you mean the sloth is even cuter ? Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:23 am

blech! that is the most revolting lamb! (with its soft fur and creepy little tongue....[shudder]....)

give me a doe-eyed sloth to cuddle with any day.

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PostSubject: 2nd round of 2013 Mojo Fun Linnaeus's two-toed sloth!   Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:09 pm

Dear friends! Very Happy
Here are more pictures of the sloth development. This time Mojo decided to share with us several pictures showing the subtle changes taking place day by day. :surprised: cheers
I personally find it very generous from the brand, knowing how important is to keep secretively the development of products in commercial areas. Anyway I also find that it has a huge interest to those members that love to follow all the steps a figure need to take before arriving to our collections. Very Happy
Below you can see pictures from 3 different stages and your comments are very welcome and will be taken seriously to contribute to the best quality possible of final figure. bounce
As comparison you can check the pictures of the first round on this topic. study
You can read more about Linnaeus's two-toed sloth on this Wikipedia article. study Very Happy

19 September:
face and snout changes according with STS members comments.









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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:47 am

20 September:
amendment to the right leg and changing of some facial details.












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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:47 am


22 September
adjusting both the area beneath the right arm to waist and also the rear buttock area.








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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:50 am

i'm not sure i see the changes; that is, i can see it's changed because his hair is different, but i don't know enough about sloths to understand what was done, but i can see that when it's painted, it will be wonderful. i think that all one color like this, my brain keeps thinking it's a very strange Wookiee.
However I am admiring those beautiful claws!! they really are spectacular and when you look at the "claws" on other sloth models, cheers to Mr. James for the courage to be accurate. they look like claws, not stubby bits of plastic. Looking at this figure, you understand that a sloth can inflict some serious damage if it takes a swipe at a predator.
and cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers Mr. James and Mojo for including STS in this project. I am enjoying watching it develop.
Thank you for sharing. sunny

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:57 am

I don't know enough about sloths either but I can see the nose is different. All I can say is that Mojo Fun is climbing very fast to compete with Schleich for my favorite brands list! I do have to commend Mr. James Conolly for his including and daring to release his projects with us, a truly daring move! And last but not least I can not wait to see their 2013 line! cheers Sad(o)): Very Happy Razz bounce flower
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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:41 am

That is what i like!! A absolutly must have!! cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:05 am

I think he's gorgeous, thanks for posting all these photos Roger, what a fabulous figurine cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:15 pm

this is great,,how they inform us

i hope they do it the same with other mammals

a specialy with the prehistoric ones

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:47 pm

It's great Mojofun wanted our involvement with their new product. Personally I like it and expecting to see in 2013!
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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Sloth painted and repainted!!!   Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:01 pm

Paint it with colors of the rainbow, I'd still buy it Very Happy

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