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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Quagga stallion    Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:30 pm

Beautiful model! Another interesting mate for my quagga hehe!

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Quagga stallion    Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:38 pm

A great news for collectors, at last a quagga ! It becomes very usual to see new unusual species isn't it Laughing
Thank you Eg... MOJÖ and Anna for this great newcomers.
Seijun your comment is very interesting and now I can't wait to see the quagga nostrils in real. Or maybe Anna could ask ?
About the shape of the head, it is really difficult to tell. some pics are saying you are right and some Anna is right.





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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Quagga stallion    Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:22 am

Even with the zebra I think the head is still much different. The quagga was a subspecies of the Plains zebra. The nostrils again are on the sides, not the very front, and the profile of the muzzle is still much rounder (on all equines, the nostrils are on the sides--in a very extreme case, for instance if the animal is moving at a high speed and breathing in strongly, the nostrils might appear more forward and the muzzle might appear more flat).

Ana, thank you for the picture. You are right that the chin on those three is much closer to yours. I imagine it is affected by how relaxed the animal's jaw is.

Another thing worth noting is also the angle of the mouth. The mouths when relaxed will not be in a level line like on the Mojo model. Instead they will rest at a definite angle. This is a very common mistake on model equines.








Kikimalou: My opinion is that a taxidermy animal should never be used as reference for sculpting a mammal, except perhaps for referencing fur markings. In most cases, the skin is the only part of the mount that was on the original animal. A form underneath is responsible for giving the skin it's shape. The form is made of foam in modern times, but before foam was invented they probably used wood, shavings, stuffing, etc to shape the skin into what they thought was correct. Basically, when you look at a taxidermy mammal you are looking at someones sculpture of the mammal with the skin stretched over it. As with any sculpture, the quality varies based on both the skill and knowledge of the artist. For some example s of truly horrible taxidermy jobs, see here: http://taxi-derpy.tumblr.com/


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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Quagga stallion    Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:59 am

Oh... what can I say?? This is a hige surprise and wonderful model!!! thank you Anna!!! Sad(o)): Sad(o)): Sad(o)):

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Quagga stallion    Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:04 am

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Quagga stallion    Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:29 am

Congrats Anna! you are a star now!! cheers sunny sunny sunny
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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Quagga stallion    Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:13 am

I'm glad Joan mentioned the Zorse, since the first thing I thought when I saw this marvelous figure is that it puts the Papo Zorse to shame. (And I want to point out that I actually quite like that Papo figure. When Susanne first introduced a thread with some pictures of it, I was enthusiastic about the model.) The Papo Zorse is a very "toyish" model and I thought this really worked to its advantage and made it very appealing. But this Quagga is on a wholly different level! It is absolutely fantastic! Seriously, Anna, you are really working wonders this year; I can't tell you how impressed I am.

I especially love the hint of tension in the back right leg -- it is lifted up ever so slightly. It is such a lovely pose and a beautifully sculpted animal! I can hardly wait to purchase it!

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Quagga stallion    Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:48 am

It's amazing, Anna.

t's very satisfying to see what both Mojo and Collecta have to offer this year. I never imagined I'd own a quagga that wasn't some sort of custom piece. I wouldn't even have had the imagination to include it on a wishlist.
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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Quagga stallion    Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:04 am

@Seijun wrote:
Kikimalou: My opinion is that a taxidermy animal should never be used as reference for sculpting a mammal, except perhaps for referencing fur markings. In most cases, the skin is the only part of the mount that was on the original animal. A form underneath is responsible for giving the skin it's shape. The form is made of foam in modern times, but before foam was invented they probably used wood, shavings, stuffing, etc to shape the skin into what they thought was correct. Basically, when you look at a taxidermy mammal you are looking at someones sculpture of the mammal with the skin stretched over it. As with any sculpture, the quality varies based on both the skill and knowledge of the artist. For some example s of truly horrible taxidermy jobs, see here: http://taxi-derpy.tumblr.com/

You are right Seijun, thank you for the odd link ! I don't know for you but i feel a bit sick when I look at those monsters What a Face

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Quagga stallion    Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:59 am

Thank You for all the the kind words Silvia, Martin, Paige, Ken, Scott, Nyarlahotep and Kiki!! sunny sunny sunny

Seujin I will ask in Mojo if the shape of nostrils and mouth line can be worked before the final production. Thank You for very interesting input and I will surely remember about it also in any future work. :)

About chin shape however, well, as far as I know and could observe, the shape differ, some specimens have flatter one, at least that what I saw on photos of zebras or in the zoos and also on different horses I knew. Somehow I don't think this shape depend only on animal mood. I remember the book of Linda T. Jones , author who collected info about many different shapes of horse head (well for quite surprising purpose, I don't really believe in her theories about connection between horse face and character but it was fun to read) anyway, I remember pages in this book showing several different chin shapes, including very flat ones. So one of thoughts where I do agree with Linda is the fact that horses (so zabras, donkeys and many more) head shapes and faces are very diverse. :)

Thank You also for the scary taxidermy link, what a monsters indeed!!! affraid affraid

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Quagga stallion    Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:59 am

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Quagga stallion    Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:14 am

@ana wrote:

About chin shape however, well, as far as I know and could observe, the shape differ, some specimens have flatter one, at least that what I saw on photos of zebras or in the zoos and also on different horses I knew. Somehow I don't think this shape depend only on animal mood. I remember the book of Linda T. Jones , author who collected info about many different shapes of horse head (well for quite surprising purpose, I don't really believe in her theories about connection between horse face and character but it was fun to read) anyway, I remember pages in this book showing several different chin shapes, including very flat ones. So one of thoughts where I do agree with Linda is the fact that horses (so zabras, donkeys and many more) head shapes and faces are very diverse. :)

I agree that head shapes are very diverse in equines. I think re-angling the mouth and changing the nostril position would improve the Mojo model much more than a change to the chin. I am probably just bias towards a stronger chin :) Do you know the name of this book of which you speak? It sounds like something I would love to have in my collection of reference material.


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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Quagga stallion    Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:25 am

@Seijun wrote:
@ana wrote:

About chin shape however, well, as far as I know and could observe, the shape differ, some specimens have flatter one, at least that what I saw on photos of zebras or in the zoos and also on different horses I knew. Somehow I don't think this shape depend only on animal mood. I remember the book of Linda T. Jones , author who collected info about many different shapes of horse head (well for quite surprising purpose, I don't really believe in her theories about connection between horse face and character but it was fun to read) anyway, I remember pages in this book showing several different chin shapes, including very flat ones. So one of thoughts where I do agree with Linda is the fact that horses (so zabras, donkeys and many more) head shapes and faces are very diverse. :)

I agree that head shapes are very diverse in equines. I think re-angling the mouth and changing the nostril position would improve the Mojo model much more than a change to the chin. I am probably just bias towards a stronger chin :) Do you know the name of this book of which you speak? It sounds like something I would love to have in my collection of reference material.




I just asked Mojo and there is strong chance to rework nostrils and mouth shapes yet. I think it will be done :)

About book, it was interesting, first part is mainly about head shapes, second half of it is about simple massage and some exercises (and it seemed to work nice to relax some horses indeed ^^) Here is cover of this book: CLICK

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Quagga stallion    Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:35 am

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Quagga stallion    Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:30 pm

Another must have for 2013!!!Great model!!
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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Quagga stallion    Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:33 pm

Thank you! I love the figure! He will fit right end with my zebra herd and the zorse!
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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Quagga stallion    Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:26 pm

WOW! I should be in bed right now (it's 7:23 am in Bartlesville Oklahoma) but i thought I'd swing by the forum before I retire and WHAAAATTT??? A QUAGGA? affraid cheers cheers cheers YES! Amazing work! thank you, thank you, thank you! I've loved Quaga since reading the book "The Katturaan Osdysey," there's a funny and pompous but brave Quagga in it by the name of Quigga. I already have the little K&M extinct animal Quagga, and now i'll have this wonderful stallion to be with him. Picking up that Zorse as well! Well, g'night all! zzzzzzz Sleep
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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Quagga stallion    Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:34 pm

Yeah! Great choice, and beautiful work Anna! I didn't expect a Quagga, now I hope to see Thylacine and Dodo in the next years cheers

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WOW! I should be in bed right now (it's 7:23 am in Bartlesville Oklahoma) but i thought I'd swing by the forum before I retire and WHAAAATTT??? A QUAGGA? affraid cheers cheers cheers YES! Amazing work! thank you, thank you, thank you! I've loved Quaga since reading the book "The Katturaan Osdysey," there's a funny and pompous but brave Quagga in it by the name of Quigga. I already have the little K&M extinct animal Quagga, and now i'll have this wonderful stallion to be with him. Picking up that Zorse as well! Well, g'night all! zzzzzzz Sleep
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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Quagga stallion    Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:44 pm

I bet it's the Playvisions quagga. K & M sometimes has the same molds.
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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Quagga stallion    Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:47 pm

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I bet it's the Playvisions quagga. K & M sometimes has the same molds.
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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Quagga stallion    Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:07 pm

Happy to hear You like this species and figure of it!!! Thanks for all the nice words about it!!! cheers sunny cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Quagga stallion    Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:09 pm

@ana wrote:
I just asked Mojo and there is strong chance to rework nostrils and mouth shapes yet. I think it will be done :)

Great ! Sad(o)):

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Quagga stallion    Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:31 pm

@nyarlahotep wrote:
It's amazing, Anna.

t's very satisfying to see what both Mojo and Collecta have to offer this year. I never imagined I'd own a quagga that wasn't some sort of custom piece. I wouldn't even have had the imagination to include it on a wishlist.

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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Quagga stallion    Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:28 pm

Beautiful, very beautiful. Hopefully having an easier Quagga model to buy will get more publicity for the Quagga project, as I am very interested in that project.
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PostSubject: Re: Mojo 2013 Quagga stallion    Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:43 pm

So beautiful! Fantastic work Ana! drunken Sad(o)):

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