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PostSubject: Custom made models of vultures   Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:14 pm

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I made these vultures for our friend Phil. First You can see photos of bearded vulture model, scale 1:22:
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:22 pm

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I made these vultures for our friend Phil. First You can see photos of bearded vulture model, scale 1:22:

affraid I need one too. santa
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:28 pm

I made also 2 models of palm nut vultures, they are also in scale 1:22, very small figurines.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:29 pm

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Hi friends,
I made these vultures for our friend Phil. First You can see photos of bearded vulture model, scale 1:22:

affraid I need one too. santa

Oh Torben, I didn't make a mold from these birds-their legs are too thin, I can't make any copies. But I'm very happy You like them sunny cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:32 pm

And here is flying one, the photos show him a little bit strange, but flying poses are hard to show nicely on photos Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:34 pm

GORgeous cheers

Ohhh, Phil is so lucky !

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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:36 pm

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GORgeous cheers

Ohhh, Phil is so lucky !

Thank You Susanne, I'm happy You like them Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:37 pm

Lucky Phil Very Happy cheers sunny

Poor Torben Crying or Very sad No Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:43 pm

Very well done Ana, I especially love the flying one, beautiful. cheers cheers So, how did you make those wonderfully slender legs! Something I'd like to be able to do with my birds. The clay you use must be fantastic to work with. What was it again?
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:06 pm

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Very well done Ana, I especially love the flying one, beautiful. cheers cheers So, how did you make those wonderfully slender legs! Something I'd like to be able to do with my birds. The clay you use must be fantastic to work with. What was it again?

Thank You Harriet Very Happy Legs are made of wire and glue ( exclamation ) I put drop of glue on bird's feet and let it dry when the shape is right. Sometimes second layer is needed. But for all other parts of birds I use Magic Sculp -it's epoxy clay-getting harder after 2 hours from mixing part A with part B. Inner layer I made of Fimo clay.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:17 pm

Great job, Ana. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:50 pm

Superbe Ana cheers

Lucky Phil, poor Torben, so sad Kiki No

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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:34 pm

Fantastic birds Ania! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:10 am

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Very well done Ana, I especially love the flying one, beautiful. cheers cheers So, how did you make those wonderfully slender legs! Something I'd like to be able to do with my birds. The clay you use must be fantastic to work with. What was it again?

Thank You Harriet Very Happy Legs are made of wire and glue ( exclamation ) I put drop of glue on bird's feet and let it dry when the shape is right. Sometimes second layer is needed. But for all other parts of birds I use Magic Sculp -it's epoxy clay-getting harder after 2 hours from mixing part A with part B. Inner layer I made of Fimo clay.
Thanks Ana, that's a good way to do it! I was going to say, I couldn't believe you could make them from clay Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:12 am

really the bearded, what luck Phill Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:41 pm

Thanks all for loving my new vultures, but no luck involved other then the chance that I met Ana!!! Her skill is what makes them come to life and as soon as they are flying (or perched) on the diorama I will post some new photos.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:31 am

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Thanks all for loving my new vultures, but no luck involved other then the chance that I met Ana!!! Her skill is what makes them come to life and as soon as they are flying (or perched) on the diorama I will post some new photos.
How will you display the flying vulture Phil?
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:29 am

Awesome job. We very like your birds. I see that in the "Factory Ana" in the autumn go nice and interesting news. Aniu look forward to more.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:38 am

Harriet, I have now a flying fox that I can't get a good photos of, it never seems to be in focus when I try to take pictures of it because the camara focuses on the trees in the background, but I have two different ways to display the flying vulture I just haven't decided which one I will use. The first way, which is how the flying fox is done, is to use a flexable wire attached to one of the trees (the banyon for him) and I then attached the wire to the figure so he is suspended above the diorama at about the level of the top of the tree. The other way I could display a flying animal would be to use the rafters of the workshop and attach a monofilament line to them and hang the bird from that so it is flying over the diorama. I will do what I can to get some good photos as soon as I have the vultures set up on the diorama.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:09 pm

[quote="ana"]Hi friends,
I made these vultures for our friend Phil. First You can see photos of bearded vulture model, scale 1:22:


...Hi, Ana! This vultures is rarites which will decorates any collection! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:10 pm

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Harriet, I have now a flying fox that I can't get a good photos of, it never seems to be in focus when I try to take pictures of it because the camara focuses on the trees in the background, but I have two different ways to display the flying vulture I just haven't decided which one I will use. The first way, which is how the flying fox is done, is to use a flexable wire attached to one of the trees (the banyon for him) and I then attached the wire to the figure so he is suspended above the diorama at about the level of the top of the tree. The other way I could display a flying animal would be to use the rafters of the workshop and attach a monofilament line to them and hang the bird from that so it is flying over the diorama. I will do what I can to get some good photos as soon as I have the vultures set up on the diorama.
Ah, thanks Phil, the rafters will come in useful then, for those birds that spend their time out in the open, circling for food. Can't wait to see the vultures in your diorama.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:58 pm

Yes, it will look very good in photographs, and when you are standing in front of the diorama I have another big supprise but I don't know how it will if I take a picture. I buy most of my supplies from companies that do dioramas especially WWII dioramas. I found a product that is used to make clouds for air battle dioramas or if there are planes making bombing runs, just about any diorama that there is a sky as a part of the diorama. Well working backwards from an article I found some tiny strobe lights for model trains and ordered both the cloud kit and the strobe lights. I also bought the biggest bulk pack of the clouds that they sell and my idea is to make a late afternoon tropical thunder storm on the Indian diorama.

I have been all over the tropics for both personal and work animal collecting trips and I have lived in Florida in the past (I still consider it home even though I am in California) and most summer afternoons there are thunderstorms with a downpour of rain for about 3 to 4 hours in the late afternoon. The kit is made to just make a few clouds, but after reading an article on making a diorama of a tornado I decided to make a large thunder cloud formation, airbrush the clouds the dark and light greys of storm clouds and put the two strobes into the clouds. When you are standing in front of the diorama you will see and hear (I have a CD of nature sounds and one of the "songs" is thunder and rain) lightning flashes and thunder. It should be impressive.

I can't make it yet as I don't have a way to hang the clouds until the diorama is against the wall or has some sort of back to it so I can mount the supports I need to attach the clouds, but I have made some 8 and 10 inch clouds and put the strobes into them just as a test and the look is really nice. I think the storm clouds will show up in a photo, but to catch a flash of lightning in a still shot would be really hard to do and I am not sure it wont just show up as a flash from the camara so I don't think that will work. What I will do is something like YouTube or another video site where I can post a link so the visual won't be lost in a still photo.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:25 pm

That sounds amazing Phil!I have seen similar effects used in other dioramas,but not nearly as realistic as yours!!! Shocked Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:02 pm

Phil, Your idea is fantastic! I remember You mentioned about it one of Your letters but now I can't wait to see the effect! You are 100% about the video is better than still photo. This really sounds amazing!! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:21 pm

Thanks Ana, for the comments and the sculptures. I will send you a link as soon as it is done, but for everyone who is excited about this part of the diorama please remember this can't be done until I have the back up to mount the wires that will support the clouds. This could be months or more before I even get to that part. I hope it doesn't take that long, but I don't think it will be until at least the spring of next year.

My hope is to find a cabinet maker who will build not only a stand to put it on so I can display these models in the main part of the house, but have a shadow box type cover made with a glass front and internal lighting so I can keep the dust and other things out of the model and display it in a museum type setting. Then I could mount the clouds to the top of the box and contain the whole model with the back and sides painted to look like extensions on the diorama.

If I get my dream to come true (Danny and I just talked about this last night) I would have a seperate building put up like my workshop where I have 3 walls painted like different scenes and the whole diorama would be like a model train set up. You would walk into the room and the diorama would be on tables with a pathway that you walk through, first to the left would be one display, and as you walk the diorama would be on both sides of you at about 36 inches (just about 1 meter high) and against the wall would be a mural that is just an extension of the diorama, where rivers and trees matched up so it looks like you are looking off into the distance. As your turn to the right would be a different scene, again with the back wall painted to match that part of the diorama and so on all the way to the other side of the room. Along the front wall, where the door is would be my work benches and diorama making supplies so I could work right there in the room. right now I work at my desk in my computer room making the wire frames and sculpting the clay, then I have to take it out to the workshop, which is on the other side of the property so in bad weather is not a fun walk, especially if you are carrying freshly made models and see what modifications have to be done, bring it back make any changes and go back out there. Not fun in a snow storm or a cold night, especially since I have a mountain lion that lives on the property and you never know if he is going to decide that people are now on the menu!!
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:25 pm

Stunning job Ana.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:40 pm

It all sounds very impressive Phil!
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:15 pm

Beautiful work Ana! :)
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:35 pm

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If I get my dream to come true (Danny and I just talked about this last night) I would have a seperate building put up like my workshop where I have 3 walls painted like different scenes and the whole diorama would be like a model train set up. You would walk into the room and the diorama would be on tables with a pathway that you walk through, first to the left would be one display, and as you walk the diorama would be on both sides of you at about 36 inches (just about 1 meter high) and against the wall would be a mural that is just an extension of the diorama, where rivers and trees matched up so it looks like you are looking off into the distance. As your turn to the right would be a different scene, again with the back wall painted to match that part of the diorama and so on all the way to the other side of the room. Along the front wall, where the door is would be my work benches and diorama making supplies so I could work right there in the room. right now I work at my desk in my computer room making the wire frames and sculpting the clay, then I have to take it out to the workshop, which is on the other side of the property so in bad weather is not a fun walk, especially if you are carrying freshly made models and see what modifications have to be done, bring it back make any changes and go back out there. Not fun in a snow storm or a cold night, especially since I have a mountain lion that lives on the property and you never know if he is going to decide that people are now on the menu!!

Phil, Your idea is fantastic, I just love it! Sound really impressive and I'm sure when the time comes You will show us fantastic photos of this place. I didn't know You have mountain lions in Your neighborhood! Hope they will let You finish all works affraid Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:35 pm

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Beautiful work Ana! :)

Thank You very much Nova Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:34 pm

I do have mountain lions both in and outside the house!!! In Florida I have a friend who breeds mountain lions and I have raised them from kittens for him in the past, but here in California they are wild. They are very shy and do not usually like any sort of human contact. The neighbor behind our house had his goat eaten by one a few months back, and another one down by the creek lost a goat a couple of years ago. I keep all of my live animals in a barn at night, but the mountain lion is not the big problem, the fox is. He thinks and thinks about how to get into the bird pens and has been successful in the past taking 4 birds total. Ever since the barn has been locked we don't lose any more, but most mornings I see where he tries to get into the cage or barn.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:13 pm

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I do have mountain lions both in and outside the house!!! In Florida I have a friend who breeds mountain lions and I have raised them from kittens for him in the past, but here in California they are wild. They are very shy and do not usually like any sort of human contact. The neighbor behind our house had his goat eaten by one a few months back, and another one down by the creek lost a goat a couple of years ago. I keep all of my live animals in a barn at night, but the mountain lion is not the big problem, the fox is. He thinks and thinks about how to get into the bird pens and has been successful in the past taking 4 birds total. Ever since the barn has been locked we don't lose any more, but most mornings I see where he tries to get into the cage or barn.
How wonderful to have Puma kittens, they must be adorable!
It's such a worry when there's a Fox or Mink about. I shut my hens and ducks away as soon as I can now, after what happened to my last ducks. Our neighbour keeps hens, geese, turkeys and ducks, but if he sees the fox about he warns me, so I make sure everything is safe.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:15 am

ANA, the vultures are beautiful!!!!! Your work just gets better and better cheers
The biggest problem around our area is coyotes. They have adapted very well to the rural and city areas. Three of my clients have lost small dogs to coyotes in the last year.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:59 pm

Beautiful vultures Ana. You did an amazing job on them. Congratulations Phil. They are going to look amazing on your diorama. I can't wait to see the cloud and thunderstorm effects on your diorama. It sounds amazing.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:19 am

Phil, my friend, you diorama's go beyond any bonderies!
firstly, you decided to make everything as real as possible, but now you are adding more and more scenery, like the clouds you mentioned, and even sounds! cheers

I guess, any zoo in the world would like to have miniature-sceneries like that, to show the visitors, how a habitat would look like in overall view!
Of course the skills and talents of Ana, and your own skills that are developing on making bushes and trees make everything look even more real and natural! Very Happy

Way to go Phil, keep on doing the good work! Wink


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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:57 pm

Really relly nice work!!! Lucky Phil!!! Very Happy Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:15 am

They are very beautiful!

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PostSubject: Re: Custom made models of vultures   Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:04 pm

I know it must be fantastic to lives in areas where still wildlife is around, but it has its flaws to of course, as we could read here... Crying or Very sad
Maybe you should keep an adult mountain lion in one of your pens, if possible Phil.
The wild puma could think, that he is in the territory of another one then, and will not show up to near anymore in the future then... Rolling Eyes
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