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Cyhyraeth
Country/State : Russian Federation Age : 38 Joined : 2011-08-19 Posts : 1371
| Subject: Orpheo Merlin, a Bullfighting Stallion, OOAK Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:03 pm | |
| I like neither corrida, nor tourada, the Portguese version of the bullfight. Bt I've fallen in love with this horse the first time I saw him. Here he is- a golden palomino Lusitano Orpheo Merlin. AFAIK this horse took part in torada for nearly 5 years, and his performance's always sold out. The Artist is Olga Kobrina, Russia. OOAK. Hope to get a bull and his former caballero, Pablo Hermosa figures one day. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] He arrived in a really nice box:) [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]All the tack can be removed. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]The size- to compare with mini resins by SMB and a Schleich horse. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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| | | cattlecollector
Country/State : U.S.A Age : 25 Joined : 2012-11-16 Posts : 1610
| Subject: Re: Orpheo Merlin, a Bullfighting Stallion, OOAK Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:18 pm | |
| Great snag! He looks very nice! |
| | | Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 49 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 34939
| Subject: Re: Orpheo Merlin, a Bullfighting Stallion, OOAK Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:53 am | |
| Daria, I am Portuguese and I also don't like bull fighting. This is a beautiful show but very cruel. Merlin belongs to a Portuguese torero, in picture here presentedwhose name is João Moura. He lost a fantastic horse some time ago, called Passapé, it was injured by a bull during a fight. But it is not bull or horses fault, just the human pleasure of seeing blood. Olga performed a magnificent piece, this horse is very beautiful as it is usual in this breed but with an extraordinarily pleasant color. João Moura was very clever buying it once it is just the best horse as you're saying and as it is recognized by bullfighting experts. Thanks for showing! |
| | | cattlecollector
Country/State : U.S.A Age : 25 Joined : 2012-11-16 Posts : 1610
| Subject: Re: Orpheo Merlin, a Bullfighting Stallion, OOAK Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:19 am | |
| I do not agree with bull fighting either. Why kill something if you aren't going to eat it. Also, why make it suffer. A fast, clean death is always much better than jabbing the animal until it is almost dead, than killing in purely for entertainment. I do not like the sport but I like the horses, and I especially like the bulls. They have always been fascinating to me. I am very pleased that aschleich made a replica of one this year. :) |
| | | SUSANNE Admin
Country/State : Denmark, the peninsula of Djursland. Age : 71 Joined : 2010-09-30 Posts : 37808
| Subject: Re: Orpheo Merlin, a Bullfighting Stallion, OOAK Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:39 am | |
| What a stunning, beautyful, fantastic model of a gorgeous horse (o)): And what a beautyful box ! CONGRATULATIONS with this fantastic gem PS, of course I agree about finding bull fighting disgusting, - and rodeo, too ! Humans are very cruel animals |
| | | Cyhyraeth
Country/State : Russian Federation Age : 38 Joined : 2011-08-19 Posts : 1371
| Subject: Re: Orpheo Merlin, a Bullfighting Stallion, OOAK Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:45 am | |
| - Roger wrote:
- Daria, I am Portuguese and I also don't like bull fighting. This is a beautiful show but very cruel.
Merlin belongs to a Portuguese torero, in picture here presentedwhose name is João Moura. He lost a fantastic horse some time ago, called Passapé, it was injured by a bull during a fight. But it is not bull or horses fault, just the human pleasure of seeing blood. Olga performed a magnificent piece, this horse is very beautiful as it is usual in this breed but with an extraordinarily pleasant color. João Moura was very clever buying it once it is just the best horse as you're saying and as it is recognized by bullfighting experts. Thanks for showing! AFAIK once he belonged to Pablo Hermoso de Mendoza. It's he that rides Orpheo on the popular video from Youtube. Do you know what's with Merlin now? I heard nothing about him for the last two years, but hope he's alive and safe. Sorry for Passape(( It was a dark bay stallion, if I'm right. |
| | | widukind
Country/State : Germany Age : 48 Joined : 2010-12-30 Posts : 44244
| Subject: Re: Orpheo Merlin, a Bullfighting Stallion, OOAK Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:56 am | |
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| | | Elros Alvar
Country/State : Spain Age : 25 Joined : 2012-02-06 Posts : 3284
| | | | HKHollinstone
Country/State : England, CUMBRIA Age : 31 Joined : 2010-03-30 Posts : 11285
| Subject: Re: Orpheo Merlin, a Bullfighting Stallion, OOAK Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:03 pm | |
| That's an amazing figure, congratulations Daria, it's beautiful!! _________________ Harriet My *Collection* My *Handmade Animal Sculpture*
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| | | PeGe
Country/State : Germany Age : 44 Joined : 2011-05-29 Posts : 1630
| Subject: Re: Orpheo Merlin, a Bullfighting Stallion, OOAK Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:12 pm | |
| Wonderful figurine and thank you for focusing on one of the saddest traditions in europe, concerning live animals. Why is this horse a hero? because he survived so many massacres? Seeing animals dying, intestines coming out the belly, caused by a raging bull, full of pain and fear,..... Don't argue with "Tradition" here, .... A sad way to become "a man" by forgetting evolution and brain,... |
| | | Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 49 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 34939
| Subject: Re: Orpheo Merlin, a Bullfighting Stallion, OOAK Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:39 am | |
| - Cyhyraeth wrote:
- Roger wrote:
- Daria, I am Portuguese and I also don't like bull fighting. This is a beautiful show but very cruel.
Merlin belongs to a Portuguese torero, in picture here presentedwhose name is João Moura. He lost a fantastic horse some time ago, called Passapé, it was injured by a bull during a fight. But it is not bull or horses fault, just the human pleasure of seeing blood. Olga performed a magnificent piece, this horse is very beautiful as it is usual in this breed but with an extraordinarily pleasant color. João Moura was very clever buying it once it is just the best horse as you're saying and as it is recognized by bullfighting experts. Thanks for showing! AFAIK once he belonged to Pablo Hermoso de Mendoza. It's he that rides Orpheo on the popular video from Youtube. Do you know what's with Merlin now? I heard nothing about him for the last two years, but hope he's alive and safe.
Sorry for Passape(( It was a dark bay stallion, if I'm right. As I told, João Moura bought Merlin from Pablo Hermoso. I believe the horse is still alive and with the new owner. Though, João Moura had some problems with fiscal matters and I am not sure he is keeping the horse. I'll let you know as soon as I get some info. About Passapé. Yes, it was a dark bay horse that you can see on picture. |
| | | A-J
Country/State : The Netherlands Age : 28 Joined : 2012-05-11 Posts : 1541
| Subject: Re: Orpheo Merlin, a Bullfighting Stallion, OOAK Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:36 pm | |
| it's an amazing figure and the tack is also great! congrats! _________________ [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Anne-Joke [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ajs.artistry - Instagram AJs Artistry Shop - Etsy |
| | | Mastiffcat
Country/State : California Age : 64 Joined : 2011-06-26 Posts : 1714
| Subject: Re: Orpheo Merlin, a Bullfighting Stallion, OOAK Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:31 pm | |
| beautiful figure and breathtaking tack. congratulations on this exquisite set. Interesting that the horse was done with real hair, as opposed to sculpted. is real hair making a come-back in the model world? has anyone made a bull on this scale? It is a small consolation that something so cruel can inspire the creation of such beauty. such beautiful horses, and such beautiful bulls. _________________ carolynn
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| | | Cyhyraeth
Country/State : Russian Federation Age : 38 Joined : 2011-08-19 Posts : 1371
| Subject: Re: Orpheo Merlin, a Bullfighting Stallion, OOAK Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:49 pm | |
| Thank you, guys. Roger, Hope you'll find some info about him. I'll be really grateful. Pege AFAIK in old times tourada used to be kind of 'practice' for noble men in military and riding skills. But now, when such skills are required no longer (or you may easily practise them in many other ways), it's ridiculous. Carolynn Thanks:) I have no idea about the other collectors, but I myself like such customs (with mohair) and try to add some to my collection. I'm now hunting for vintage "hairy customs". I don't consider myself to be that lucky to get a piece by Julie Froelich or Liz Bouras (I would be really happy just to see one in personal some day), but- who knows?:) Sometimes such offers still appear on MH$P |
| | | Cyhyraeth
Country/State : Russian Federation Age : 38 Joined : 2011-08-19 Posts : 1371
| Subject: Re: Orpheo Merlin, a Bullfighting Stallion, OOAK Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:53 pm | |
| - Mastiffcat wrote:
has anyone made a bull on this scale? I' m not sure about that. I've seen a traditional bull by Edwin Bogucki only- that's all that goes with tourada. Most little bits scale bulls are for reining (or cutting? I'm still lousy at this ) I think. |
| | | Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 49 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 34939
| Subject: Re: Orpheo Merlin, a Bullfighting Stallion, OOAK Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:45 pm | |
| Daria, Merlin parents are a Quarter stallion called Sol (Sun) and a Lusitano mare called Delfin (Dolphin)! Searching a little, the most recent news I've found of Merlin was that he stopped bull fight on August 2012 because he got a strange injury on front paws "hands". Owner tooke him for a treatment but the horse wasn't able of recovering. I also have found that Passapé is not from the same owner of Merlin, João Moura. Actually, Passapé's owner is called João Moura Caetano that is another torero. :) I will try to contact João Moura JR, still another bull fighter, son of João Moura, that also used the Merlin. |
| | | Cyhyraeth
Country/State : Russian Federation Age : 38 Joined : 2011-08-19 Posts : 1371
| Subject: Re: Orpheo Merlin, a Bullfighting Stallion, OOAK Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:51 pm | |
| - Roger wrote:
- Daria, Merlin parents are a Quarter stallion called Sol (Sun) and a Lusitano mare called Delfin (Dolphin)!
Searching a little, the most recent news I've found of Merlin was that he stopped bull fight on August 2012 because he got a strange injury on front paws "hands". Owner tooke him for a treatment but the horse wasn't able of recovering. I also have found that Passapé is not from the same owner of Merlin, João Moura. Actually, Passapé's owner is called João Moura Caetano that is another torero. :) I will try to contact João Moura JR, still another bull fighter, son of João Moura, that also used the Merlin. Oh, Roger, thank you so much! That's really interesting about his origin. Maybe that's why his movements are so interesting. It's a pitty he got injured but I hope he'll be safe now. At least he won't die on the arena. |
| | | Cyhyraeth
Country/State : Russian Federation Age : 38 Joined : 2011-08-19 Posts : 1371
| Subject: Re: Orpheo Merlin, a Bullfighting Stallion, OOAK Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:24 pm | |
| Roger BTW, I saw the info that Merlin wasn't the most beloved horse of Pablo Hermoso, and also wasn't the best of the best on the arena ('a good horse among other good horses'). The other Mendoza's stallion, Cagancho, was considered to be a kind of standard in this sphere. And all this mess around Orpheo was partially made by his breeders, who used this talentered horse to improve their markiting. Do you have any ideas if this is true? |
| | | Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 49 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 34939
| Subject: Re: Orpheo Merlin, a Bullfighting Stallion, OOAK Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:10 am | |
| - Cyhyraeth wrote:
- Roger
BTW, I saw the info that Merlin wasn't the most beloved horse of Pablo Hermoso, and also wasn't the best of the best on the arena ('a good horse among other good horses'). The other Mendoza's stallion, Cagancho, was considered to be a kind of standard in this sphere. And all this mess around Orpheo was partially made by his breeders, who used this talentered horse to improve their markiting. Do you have any ideas if this is true? As I am not an expert in bull fighting, I can't make my own judgement. Though, I tried to read some Spanish and Portuguese websites and it looks Cangancho doesn't belong to a special linage of horses but it was a lucky find. The horse was bought in Portugal and he was very cheap once everyone considered him an not atractive horse. First experiences of Pablo with Garrancho, were not the best once the horse was not very confortable facing bulls. However, when Pablo was already thinking not use him anymore to rejoneo, made an experience with the horse aproaching him to the bull. Surprisingly, Pablo noticed that the horse felt much more controled and confortable when he was very close to the bull. Also, it was the best keeping the distance to the bull, it means, keeping the bull always close whichever the movement was, not letting him to touch him but also never getting too far from it. People, in arenas, loved the way Garrancho managed with bulls and this horse turned in the best rejoneo horse of his time. I am almost sure Merlin is also a fantastic horse, after Garrancho, the best moments of Pablo Hermoso were with Merlin and João Moura, the actual owner, is a very experienced bullfighter with a curriculum similar to Pablo being one of the most important toreros of ever. So, surely, he won't buy such a famous horse if he was not sure he was good. Also, Portuguese critics, say that among several fantastic performances of João Moura, during decades, the one that is considered the best of ever, was already with Merlin. If Pablo sold him previewing the first signs of Merlin's disease, we will never know. Also, as it happens in every business, when something is very good, there is always a lot of controversy and discussion due to personal interests. My conclusion is that both horses are excelent. :) |
| | | SyLoBe
Country/State : Spain Age : 37 Joined : 2010-12-13 Posts : 2930
| Subject: Re: Orpheo Merlin, a Bullfighting Stallion, OOAK Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:38 am | |
| I hate bullfighting and all that it involves.
Your figurine is really wonderful and very well done, but I wouldn´t have bought it... I can´t stand all that world.
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| | | JonasV
Country/State : Finland Age : 27 Joined : 2012-07-23 Posts : 5657
| Subject: Re: Orpheo Merlin, a Bullfighting Stallion, OOAK Wed May 01, 2013 1:43 pm | |
| Amazing! Congrats! _________________ Jonas Animals are my friends. I don't eat my friends. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
| | | Cyhyraeth
Country/State : Russian Federation Age : 38 Joined : 2011-08-19 Posts : 1371
| Subject: Re: Orpheo Merlin, a Bullfighting Stallion, OOAK Sat May 11, 2013 10:32 am | |
| Roger, thank you so much for the info, it was really useful! - SyLoBe wrote:
- I hate bullfighting and all that it involves.
Your figurine is really wonderful and very well done, but I wouldn´t have bought it... I can´t stand all that world.
Anyway, you are happy with it so congrats :) That's it. But if you don't know he's a bullfighting horse, it's not that tragic, is it? He's wearing a traditional Portuguese harness, used not only in tourada, AFAIK. |
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