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schmidtchenschleich



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PostSubject: Boxer 16303 and Poodle 16305 variations   Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:43 pm

Are these colour variety`s ore repainted figures?

Ist der linke Boxer eine Farbvariante oder doch nur repainted:
Sieht erhrlich gesagt nicht wie repainted aus. Das Braun so hinzukriegen wäre doch sehr schwierig.

Bei den Pudeln, gibt es braune, schwarze und weiße Pudel? Also 3 Farbvarianten?

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PostSubject: Re: Boxer 16303 and Poodle 16305 variations   Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:15 pm

Hello Schmidtchen, and welcome to the forum by the way.

The first question that pops up, is if you bought the two special variations from one seller, because then i would say that they are both re-painted.
The left boxer could be a very early paint-version, or maybe a mistake from the factory, that somebody managed to get out.
Otherwise it is a re-paint.

The poodles are only known in darkbrown(but is called black) and white.
The very black version you have, is a re-paint, i am pretty sure of that.
But there is nothing wrong with having re-paints in your collection.

Hallo Schmidtchen, und wilkommen auf unserem forum auch noch.

Meine erste Frage würde sein, ob du diese beiden Varianten von einem Verkäufer oder Sammler gekauft hast, weil ich dann denke dass du 2 re-paints hast.
Der linke Boxer Könnte eine frühe Farbvariante sein, oder ein Model mit Fabriksfehler, der vielleicht von einem Mitarbeiter der Firma heraus geschmuggelt worden ist.
Sonnst wäre es ein Re-paint.

Die Pudel sind nur bekannt in sehr dunkelbraun(wird aber schwarz genannt) und weiss.
Aber es ist nichts verkehrt daran, um Re-paints in deiner Sammlung zu haben. Cool
Der schwarze Pudel denn du da hast is mit Sicherheit ein Re-paint.

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PostSubject: Re: Boxer 16303 and Poodle 16305 variations   Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:17 pm

Welcome to the forum Schmidtchen, it is a very nice collection you have there, even if some are repaints.
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PostSubject: Re: Boxer 16303 and Poodle 16305 variations   Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:46 pm

The 2 right boxer are 100% original.

But at the left i`m not shure. But the brown colour seems to be original. The white colour i don`t know.

They are not from the same seller.

Die beiden rechten boxer sind auf jeden Fall so original.
Beim linken bin ich mir nicht sicher. Das braun scheint original zu sein. Bei weiß bin ich mir nicht sicher.
Aber dann müßte es den braunen Boxer ja ohne schwarze Schnauze geben.
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PostSubject: Re: Boxer 16303 and Poodle 16305 variations   Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:41 pm

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The 2 right boxer are 100% original.

But at the left i`m not shure. But the brown colour seems to be original. The white colour i don`t know.

They are not from the same seller.

Die beiden rechten boxer sind auf jeden Fall so original.
Beim linken bin ich mir nicht sicher. Das braun scheint original zu sein. Bei weiß bin ich mir nicht sicher.
Aber dann müßte es den braunen Boxer ja ohne schwarze Schnauze geben.

Hallo Peter,

ich bin mir absolut sicher, daß der Boxer nur vorlackiert ist. Der Rest wäre dann von Hand aufgemalt worden. Er hat dann nur unvollendet die Produktion verlassen.

Der Pudel ist mit Sicherheit eine Sammlerbemalung. So eine glänzende Bemalung gab es damals bei Schleich nicht.

Hi Peter,

i´m absolut sure that the Boxer only is pre-painted. The remain would been painted by hand. he has only left the production unfinished.

The Poodle is to 100 % no original painting. The colour is much to glossy
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PostSubject: Re: Boxer 16303 and Poodle 16305 variations   Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:58 pm

Hallo Thorben,
Du meinst also das Braun ist original.
Was ist mit dem Weißen?
Sieht aus wie gespritzt. Normalerweise wurde ja wie beim rechten das weiße von Hand gemalt.

You mean the brown is original. What about the white colour?
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PostSubject: Re: Boxer 16303 and Poodle 16305 variations   Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:05 pm

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Hallo Thorben,
Du meinst also das Braun ist original.
Was ist mit dem Weißen?
Sieht aus wie gespritzt. Normalerweise wurde ja wie beim rechten das weiße von Hand gemalt.

You mean the brown is original. What about the white colour?

Der Rohling ist weiss. Es wird zunächst die flächige Farbe aufgesprüht und später werden die Feinheiten mit einem Pinsel nachgemalt.

The body is white. At first the brown parts will be sprayed, later the figur will be finished with a paint brush.
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PostSubject: Re: Boxer 16303 and Poodle 16305 variations   Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:09 pm

Das habe ich verstanden.
Die weiße Farbe ist aber auf dem Braun.
Es ist nicht so, dass dort das Braun fehlt und der weiße Rohling durchkommt.

Yes i undertand, but the white paint is on the top of the brown paint.
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PostSubject: Re: Boxer 16303 and Poodle 16305 variations   Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:53 am

Hello Peter. Very interesting questions you are posing here. I believe I recognize the white-spray boxer on the far left as one that was quite recently auctioned on eBay.de from a very dynamic occasional seller from the home of Schleich. I think that the model may have been damaged, either during production at the factory, or subsequently by a previous owner. If I'm correct, the seller lives a few miles from the Schleich AG HQ and production center, and has special connections inside Schleich itself. I've seen photos of the 1989 special promo Qantas koala set with similar white paint-spray on two of the three figures. Perhaps there is a mistake at the production facility with the paint airbrushing from time to time?

Torben is surely correct that the poodle in the middle has been repainted with black enamel paint. If memory serves, there may be several painting variants of the dark-brown poodle. You have one with the pink mouth and white teeth painted, but isn't there more commonly seen one with no paint whatsoever?

The white poodle with painted snout is something I have never seen. Thanks for posting these.
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PostSubject: Re: Boxer 16303 and Poodle 16305 variations   Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:29 am

Well, as Torben said and thinks, my first thoughts on both were in the right direction.
The boxer could be a mistake by factory, that somebody managed to get out of the factory, and the black poodle is a re-apint.

Also, wie Torben es schon gesagt hatt, meine ersten Gedanken waren in die gute Richtung.
Der Boxer ist warscheinlich ein Fabriksfehler, den jemand warscheinlich aus der Fabrik heraus geschmuggelt hatt oder so, und der schwarze Pudel ist ein Re-Paint.

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PostSubject: Re: Boxer 16303 and Poodle 16305 variations   Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:45 pm

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Hello Peter. Very interesting questions you are posing here. I believe I recognize the white-spray boxer on the far left as one that was quite recently auctioned on eBay.de from a very dynamic occasional seller from the home of Schleich. I think that the model may have been damaged, either during production at the factory, or subsequently by a previous owner. If I'm correct, the seller lives a few miles from the Schleich AG HQ and production center, and has special connections inside Schleich itself. I've seen photos of the 1989 special promo Qantas koala set with similar white paint-spray on two of the three figures. Perhaps there is a mistake at the production facility with the paint airbrushing from time to time?
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Then i think you are right.
I think we all know about the seller.

Even i have seen here 4 people wich have bought from me in the past. I think we all buy at Ebay.
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PostSubject: Re: Boxer 16303 and Poodle 16305 variations   Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:22 am

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Hello Peter. Very interesting questions you are posing here. I believe I recognize the white-spray boxer on the far left as one that was quite recently auctioned on eBay.de from a very dynamic occasional seller from the home of Schleich. I think that the model may have been damaged, either during production at the factory, or subsequently by a previous owner. If I'm correct, the seller lives a few miles from the Schleich AG HQ and production center, and has special connections inside Schleich itself. I've seen photos of the 1989 special promo Qantas koala set with similar white paint-spray on two of the three figures. Perhaps there is a mistake at the production facility with the paint airbrushing from time to time?
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Then i think you are right.
I think we all know about the seller.

Even i have seen here 4 people wich have bought from me in the past. I think we all buy at Ebay.


Yes, Peter, he's an amazing seller with some amazing stuff. I've quite enjoyed my interactions with him. And of course, this is a small and insular community that lives at eBay and we all know each other, by real name, and by eBay ID!
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PostSubject: Re: Boxer 16303 and Poodle 16305 variations   Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:55 am

OMG! These dogs are cool.     Shocked   Congratulations for getting all of them.   cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Boxer 16303 and Poodle 16305 variations   Sat May 01, 2010 8:48 pm

The black black poodle is glossy,a type of paint not typical to Schleich in those years!It is clearly repaint.
But they are all so cool!I don't even own one of them... bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Boxer 16303 and Poodle 16305 variations   Mon May 10, 2010 6:58 pm

I won my brown.white boxer last weekend, and i am still hunting from the light-brown now... Razz
I missed the white poodle, but the price was hideous, more then 52 euro's, which was far over the top for this model! affraid

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PostSubject: Re: Boxer 16303 and Poodle 16305 variations   Mon May 10, 2010 11:37 pm

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I won my brown.white boxer last weekend, and i am still hunting from the light-brown now... Razz
I missed the white poodle, but the price was hideous, more then 52 euro's, which was far over the top for this model! affraid

Congrats on the boxer, Willy. It is a beautiful model, is it not? Good call on the white poodle; I'm sure you will get one for 30-35 euros and save money.
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PostSubject: Re: Boxer 16303 and Poodle 16305 variations   Tue May 11, 2010 12:07 am

Thanks Phil, that should be the maximum price for the white poodle, the dark brown one could be more between the 40 and 50 mark... affraid

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