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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:26 am

An email from CollectA.

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"What is really discouraging is the copycat is a big company with over 150 years old history and now sell the knockoffs in Greek & Italy with TV commercials. That really worries a lot especially they are all straight copies. Anyway, we are not scared of fighting with the giant."
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I think it's disgusting what the company did.


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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:43 am

Sue them!!!!
I do support COLLECTA all the way!!!
Thank you so much for letting us and me know this.
And I do support and love CollectA real and only products.
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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:51 pm

I got some collecta, where one of them stood collecta and some procon, but was with collecta paper on?i bought it on mpv
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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Wed Dec 18, 2013 6:00 pm

CilleDK wrote:
I got some collecta, where one of them stood collecta and some procon, but was with collecta paper on?i bought it on mpv

I don't know the complete story, but CollectA were originally marked with Procon and now CollectA. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Wed Dec 18, 2013 6:09 pm

Ok then im more calm :-)
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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Wed Dec 18, 2013 6:36 pm

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Ok then im more calm :-)

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PostSubject: CollectA copies in Bulgaria   Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:03 pm

Yes,
I want to share that I also found in Bulgaria some of these models..and others..
Most of them are chinese copies from Collecta...
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Just the horse I`m not shure is this Collecta....


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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:10 pm

And copies of Papo Triceratops and Collecta tiger:
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It`s interesting how they change the Papo Triceratops.
It`s actually mirrored reverse from the original...and the head is more rotated...

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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:43 pm

Kosta you was to fast for me. I also found this Knock offs in Bulgaria

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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:26 pm

Shocked Shocked Shocked Oh my so many copies, why can't these cheap chinese companies just make their own designs Rolling Eyes Evil or Very Mad

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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:31 pm

Yep so much Surprised And those aren't even looking nice... So poor.
Thanks for photos, Kosta Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:41 pm

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Kosta you was to fast for me. I also found this Knock offs in Bulgaria

:) Yes, I think is the same.... I ordered from a bulgarian website and they came from Varna....
You said that yours are from Varna too.
I spoke with the guy , who sell them..and he told me that he erdered them from China.
That Gorilla from China..which I repainted..was from the same seller.
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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:27 pm

affraid affraid

Almost exact copies Shocked Shocked

And they even have the nerve to write "The Authentic..." Laughing Laughing

The worst thing is that they are actually quite nice Embarassed So I want to say CONGRATULATIONS with these great finds Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:07 pm

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affraid affraid

Almost exact copies Shocked Shocked

And they even have the nerve to write "The Authentic..." Laughing Laughing

The worst thing is that they are actually quite nice Embarassed So I want to say CONGRATULATIONS with these great finds Very Happy

Actually, they are made from a cheap material...and inside are hollow. They have ugly grout in the midle.
And the legs (especially) on the deer..and giraffe, are so soft, and they are crooked Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:38 pm

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widukind wrote:
Kosta you was to fast for me. I also found this Knock offs in Bulgaria

:) Yes, I think is the same.... I ordered from a bulgarian website and they came from Varna....
You said that yours are from Varna too.
I spoke with the guy , who sell them..and he told me that he erdered them from China.
That Gorilla from China..which I repainted..was from the same seller.

I found this copies in small shops with toys , books and other things.

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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:40 pm

The copy factory is Zhong Jie Toys - but i dont find this figurines on their website

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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:54 pm

Not nice, not fair for CollectA Evil or Very Mad Mad

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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:06 pm

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Actually, they are made from a cheap material...and inside are hollow. They have ugly grout in the midle.
And the legs (especially) on the deer..and giraffe, are so soft, and they are crooked Mad

Ahh, ok ! Then it is not so bad. Very Happy
I just feel sorry for the grandmother who buys them for the grandchildren who wanted the real thing Laughing Laughing

Still, on the photos they look really nice Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:43 pm

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costicuba wrote:
widukind wrote:
Kosta you was to fast for me. I also found this Knock offs in Bulgaria

:) Yes, I think is the same.... I ordered from a bulgarian website and they came from Varna....
You said that yours are from Varna too.
I spoke with the guy , who sell them..and he told me that he erdered them from China.
That Gorilla from China..which I repainted..was from the same seller.

I found this copies in small shops with toys , books and other things.

Yes, the seller who I found...he sells this toys to the small shops.
That`s why I couldn`t buy only one toy from him..but he sold to me the hole box with 12 models..but they are only 5 animals Very Happy
But they are very cheap. The hole box - for 8 euros :)
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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:45 pm

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costicuba wrote:


Actually, they are made from a cheap material...and inside are hollow. They have ugly grout in the midle.
And the legs (especially) on the deer..and giraffe, are so soft, and they are crooked Mad

Ahh, ok ! Then it is not so bad. Very Happy
I just feel sorry for the grandmother who buys them for the grandchildren who wanted the real thing Laughing Laughing

Still, on the photos they look really nice Very Happy

yes, for that price... they look ok. They are pretty cheap.
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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:52 pm

I hate copy of CollectA. Few weeks ago I saw in some shop a nice figurines. I thought "Wow, Collectas!" but there was nothing written on it! They were only copy No No No

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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Sat Sep 06, 2014 2:52 am

Kosta is right. They look nice in pictures but when we touch them they're really bad. Very poor manufacturing . They are here 1,80 €, the same price of a pair of Happy Kin Toys little dinosaurs. I like the dinos much more than these CollectA copies. :)

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The copy factory is Zhong Jie Toys - but i dont find this figurines on their website

Andreas, just clic the link to see [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:32 am

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Kosta is right. They look nice in pictures but when we touch them they're really bad. Very poor manufacturing . They are here 1,80 €, the same price of a pair of Happy Kin Toys little dinosaurs. I like the dinos much more than these CollectA copies. :)

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The copy factory is Zhong Jie Toys - but i dont find this figurines on their website

Andreas, just clic the link to see [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Very Happy
Yes, but without this copies :)

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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:41 pm

Like Gugogulo76, no stores near me sell CollectA; any copies I have found have been on eBay. I wish the Chinese companies would just make their own designs Mad Rolling Eyes Suspect I don't know if anything can be done about them copying other companies designs scratch I think something should be done, so then the Chinese companies will learn to make their own designs and not copy off others.
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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:48 am

China does not seem to have any manufactures with original ideas. All they do is copy!
They do the same thing to the company my dad works for.
It really ticks me off when people do this, but there is nothing we can do about it. Mad Mad

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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:57 am

also china.. all of the fake kingdom Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:26 am

Some of the chinese factorys have own nice and interesting animal figurines!!!!!!!!  I think it isnt fair to say that only copies come from China:)

Aqua Meridian, Lian Huat and Nayab( i know now they have copys too) have great animals. I think it is also the reason because a lot of brands produce in china.

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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:39 pm

widukind wrote:
Some of the chinese factorys have own nice and interesting animal figurines!!!!!!!!  I think it isnt fair to say that only copies come from China:)

Aqua Meridian, Lian Huat and Nayab( i know now they have copys too) have great animals. I think it is also the reason because a lot of brands produce in china.

Andreas has a good point, Nayab/Lontic has also made species in sea animals I haven't seen made by any major company.

I thought of this also - In a way it's a good thing that a company copies off another, I think that would mean the main company has good designs.
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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:25 am

orcagirl26 wrote:
widukind wrote:
Some of the chinese factorys have own nice and interesting animal figurines!!!!!!!!  I think it isnt fair to say that only copies come from China:)

Aqua Meridian, Lian Huat and Nayab( i know now they have copys too) have great animals. I think it is also the reason because a lot of brands produce in china.

Andreas has a good point, Nayab/Lontic has also made species in sea animals I haven't seen made by any major company.

I thought of this also - In a way it's a good thing that a company copies off another, I think that would mean the main company has good designs.

First, it should be noted that these copies are bootlegs -they are illegal. China does not recognize foreign copyrights or trademarks, so that is why most of the copies come out of China. If you tried to copy these figures in almost any other country, the main company could sue you for copyright infringement and stop you dead in your tracks; You know that little FBI warning that appears on your DVDs? That applies equally to toys. As a matter of fact, if you are caught selling bootlegged products or found to be in possession of bootlegged products, you can be charged with selling and possessing stolen goods.

Second, every bootleg sold is a potential loss of sale for the main company - the company that shelled out all the money to design, mold, and get the figure to market in the first place. There is absolutely nothing good about bootlegs. Ever wanted one of those really hard to find PlayVisions figures? PlayVisions stopped producing their animal figures because they lost so much money to bootlegs. Remember, every penny in a bootlegger's pocket is one stolen from the actual producer of the figure. Too many pennies stolen and the producers stop producing. Nayab has many unique animal figures of their own; they appear to be taking the low road by bootlegging now as well.

If you see a bootlegged figure in a store and know the manager or an employee, you should tell them. Most understand the implications. Those that don't should. And you should never knowingly buy a bootleg. Report them to the main companies when you find them; tell them where you saw them. Let them handle it through legal channels as they feel necessary. Most times, they can have a Cease and Desist issued, at the very least.

I'm not trying to single you out or put you on the spot, orcagirl26, so please don't think that my little rant is in any way directed at you. Bootlegs are an issue that all collectors need to take very seriously. While we, as collectors, can sometimes benefit from copies, we need to keep in mind that the main companies have to make money to keep producing figures. Bootlegs kill profits for the main companies - look no further than CollectA's response to see how seriously they take it. Copying someone else's product and selling it as your own is theft. Purchasing copies is supporting criminal activity, and stealing from the main company.
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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:54 pm

sphyrna18 wrote:
orcagirl26 wrote:
widukind wrote:
Some of the chinese factorys have own nice and interesting animal figurines!!!!!!!!  I think it isnt fair to say that only copies come from China:)

Aqua Meridian, Lian Huat and Nayab( i know now they have copys too) have great animals. I think it is also the reason because a lot of brands produce in china.

Andreas has a good point, Nayab/Lontic has also made species in sea animals I haven't seen made by any major company.

I thought of this also - In a way it's a good thing that a company copies off another, I think that would mean the main company has good designs.

First, it should be noted that these copies are bootlegs -they are illegal.  China does not recognize foreign copyrights or trademarks, so that is why most of the copies come out of China.  If you tried to copy these figures in almost any other country, the main company could sue you for copyright infringement and stop you dead in your tracks;  You know that little FBI warning that appears on your DVDs?  That applies equally to toys.  As a matter of fact, if you are caught selling bootlegged products or found to be in possession of bootlegged products, you can be charged with selling and possessing stolen goods.  

Second, every bootleg sold is a potential loss of sale for the main company - the company that shelled out all the money to design, mold, and get the figure to market in the first place.  There is absolutely nothing good about bootlegs.  Ever wanted one of those really hard to find PlayVisions figures? PlayVisions stopped producing their animal figures because they lost so much money to bootlegs. Remember, every penny in a bootlegger's pocket is one stolen from the actual producer of the figure.  Too many pennies stolen and the producers stop producing.  Nayab has many unique animal figures of their own; they appear to be taking the low road by bootlegging now as well.

If you see a bootlegged figure in a store and know the manager or an employee, you should tell them.  Most understand the implications.  Those that don't should. And you should never knowingly buy a bootleg.  Report them to the main companies when you find them; tell them where you saw them. Let them handle it through legal channels as they feel necessary.  Most times, they can have a Cease and Desist issued, at the very least.

I'm not trying to single you out or put you on the spot, orcagirl26, so please don't think that my little rant is in any way directed at you. Bootlegs are an issue that all collectors need to take very seriously.  While we, as collectors, can sometimes benefit from copies, we need to keep in mind that the main companies have to make money to keep producing figures. Bootlegs kill profits for the main companies - look no further than CollectA's response to see how seriously they take it.  Copying someone else's product and selling it as your own is theft. Purchasing copies is supporting criminal activity, and stealing from the main company.


I wasn't aware of China's copyright/trademark laws and I also never looked into it. I should have looked into it more or thought about my reply before I posted it. I sincerely apologize Embarassed

I didn't think of you as trying to single me out or put me on the spot, I don't really think I did much of anything wrong (it's not like I'm an employee for one of the bootleg companies) except not think before I replied.
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PostSubject: Re: Attention Collectors - Unnoficial copied Models sold officialy as CollectA   Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:26 pm

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I wasn't aware of China's copyright/trademark laws and I also never looked into it. I should have looked into it more or thought about my reply before I posted it. I sincerely apologize Embarassed

I didn't think of you as trying to single me out or put me on the spot, I don't really think I did much of anything wrong (it's not like I'm an employee for one of the bootleg companies) except not think before I replied.

You didn't do anything wrong, and you have no reason to apologize (to me or to the forum). But since I quoted you, I wanted to clarify. Most people are familiar with bootleg music or movies, and they know that they are illegal; few people realize that the same laws apply to toys and models. Some bootlegs are outstanding quality, and some even fill niches that the main companies do not. For instance, Kaiyodo used to produce garage kit models; they were outstanding, but they required building and gluing and painting; bootleggers got the molds and started producing fully built and pre-painted models. The bootlegs cut into Kaiyodo's profits so much that they stopped producing the model kits all together. They simply couldn't compete with the bootleggers, since they had be able to recoup their production costs while the bootleggers did not. The bootleggers were meeting a market demand by providing the prebuilt, prepainted models, but in doing so, drove their source out of the industry. That is just one reason why we need to be very cautious as collectors about purchasing bootlegs. While they are almost always cheaper, and they are sometimes of nearly equal quality to the originals, they can devastate a manufacturer's ability to continue producing new, exciting products.
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