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I received from DutchBear a fox that looks exactly like Starlux one but in a color that I have never seen before. Size is the same, both weigh 5g, material looks the same, however the mould looks like an mold at the end of its life. I have checked some other Starlux foxes from other collectors and all look like the left one that I received from Susanne. What could it be the right one? scratch


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scratch scratch scratch  study study study  confused

I don't know Rogério, it's the first time I see such a fox. Is it hard plastic ? Embarassed You already answered...

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I'd say it's a resin home-cast, it's slightly bigger all round and smoother in sculpting yet with a grainy/bitty texture all over. That would suggest someone has taken a mould off of an original?

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Thanks for your replies. Very Happy It doesn't look a resin figure once I can see seams, it is almost surely hard plasticSeams are identical in both figures what show that parts were assembled alike. Maybe it confirms that it is a Starlux figure definitively?
. The only difference I can tell is the less textured surfaces. Maybe it is only a home repaint that removed the texture because of the extra layer of paint. Though, it also doesn't look repainted at all! Laughing Was there any later set or series where they reused the mold with a different painting? Well, I have a Starlux mistery indeed. Very Happy

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Hurray for mysteries cheers

They are both beautyful Very Happy

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Congrats Roger, hope someone will have the answer.
The pose of the foxes is very playful, I like it ^^

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Hurray for mysteries cheers

They are both beautyful Very Happy
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Thanks everyone, I also find them very playful, like the owner is sending a ball and foxes are ready to get it. Laughing
I hope some additional information can be found but until better information, I'll keep it as a Starlux variation. Very Happy

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I used a better scale and figured that in fact foxes have different weights, enough to conclude that unlikely it is just a painting variation.
Original Starlux is 5,4 g and misterious fox is 4,2 g, 25% lighter than the original. Also, I searched in an exaustive way for Starlux foxes and I am not able of finding any other looking like the misterious one. scratch
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and mine too!

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(I just got it recently and am too pleased not to share. I've been wanting this model for a long long time.)
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and mine too!

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(I just got it recently and am too pleased not to share. I've been wanting this model for a long long time.)

CONGRATIOLATIONS, Scott cheers
For lovers of Starlux, this is a must-have , - IMHO Very Happy

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Scott, thanks for sharing picture of yours. It is really a special Starlux figure... full oof joy! Congratulations! Very Happy I just hope someday to have the luck of getting the fennec! Very Happy

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It is an old topic but with [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and other experts around, maybe I can find an answer to it.
I should have added here also the same fox with a fir on a base I received in the meantime from Kosta!

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AHHHHH! There it is !!! Such a wonderful mini- diorama .

I think I remember that it was Starlux who made souvenirs for sale in the Alps ( And perhaps other places) .
I have a Chamois Very Happy
Perhps I should try to take a photo with my mobile phone, - even if I always make terrible pictures with the thing geek

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Here it is Very Happy

I am sure I showed him before, but it is a loooong time since  farao

He is hollow, and very light.Only 20 grammes.
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And large ! Here with the standard size chamois :
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See...my camera CAN take pictures.
I just have to learn how to focus scratch

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There was also a BIG flamingo sold in Camargue

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The book "Les feuillets de l'association Starlux génération Beffara" shows Susanne's chamois on the rock. It was released in 1963. It was indeed made as a souvenir. The original Starlux fox was released in 1962. Strangely, it is missing in TAW. I don't see the other fox in the book. I am not a Starlux expert, but I believe you can usually guess from the way they are painted whether it is a (post-1959) Starlux. The painting of the other fox doesn't look very Starlux-like to me, but who knows.
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Susanne, your phone camera can make wonderful photos ..you should use it :)
And wow ... this bigger chamois is so beautiful . I am seeing it for the first time.
Now I want one .. bounce Very Happy

But I think, the Fox mini- diorama is different ..at least it is with a not real Starlux model...it is a copy.

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The book "Les feuillets de l'association Starlux génération Beffara" shows Susanne's chamois on the rock. It was released in 1963. It was indeed made as a souvenir. The original Starlux fox was released in 1962. Strangely, it is missing in TAW. I don't see the other fox in the book. I am not a Starlux expert, but I believe you can usually guess from the way they are painted whether it is a (post-1959) Starlux. The painting of the other fox doesn't look very Starlux-like to me, but who knows.

OHHH! SO great to know ! Thankyou, RogerP cheers

And you are right ! The starlux fox is not in TAI affraid
That is horrible What a Face

Please, when was the fox made ? Can you see that in your book ? Very Happy

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Kosta, thankyou !!
I am happy you like the telephone-photos cheers

It is extremely difficult to hold that telephone quiet, and touch the screen to take pictures.
I think I took 25 pictures where 22 were either shaken or had pictures of my fingers in them jocolor
My shoulders are completely cramped ! Auch, auch geek Laughing Laughing
I have never really used it before, - perhaps if I train a bit scratch

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The Starlux fox is from 1962. How can the TAW head editor have missed it? Very Happy
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We missed a lot of things the first years... But TAW was born Very Happy cheers

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Yes, TAW is such a great source of information. I now realise there are at least 3 head editors posting in this topic who may all feel addressed. One is particularly into foxes Smile
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Kosta, thankyou !!
I am happy you like the telephone-photos cheers

It is extremely difficult to hold that telephone quiet, and touch the screen to take pictures.
I think I took 25 pictures where 22 were either shaken or had pictures of my fingers in them jocolor
My shoulders are completely cramped ! Auch, auch  geek Laughing Laughing
I have never really used it before, - perhaps if I train a bit scratch

I am also taking my photos with my phone .
Maybe you can try to fix the phone, to stay stable on the table when you take photos ...I am doing the same :)

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Thanks for all information provided, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] recently opened a few topics showing reused moulds of vintage French figures, I may link our French friend to this topic. Idea
Roger, thanks for all the informations provided and for noticing that the Starlux fox was missing at the wiki, I have no idea who is that editor into foxes but if I find him, I'll bite him. Evil or Very Mad affraid
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], your mobile phone pictures are very good. You can always use Fidda as a tripod, I'm sure she won't move a little. Wink

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Kosta, thanks ! Good to know it is not just me Rolling Eyes
I'll try to think of something to hold the phone stable .

Wow, Roger, brilliant ideas lol!

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I used a better scale and figured that in fact foxes have different weights, enough to conclude that unlikely it is just a painting variation.
Original Starlux is 5,4 g and misterious fox is 4,2 g, 25% lighter than the original. Also, I searched in an exaustive way for Starlux foxes and I am not able of finding any other looking like the misterious one. scratch
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Rogério, I had never seen this "fox souvenir" before this one. I checked on my french forum "Soldat plastique 1/32"  but there is none although  there are many with red deers, chamois, bears, dogs, roe deers, flamingoes, camargue bulls, gardians..

 If this fox is lighter than the common one, it's because it 's surely made with polystyrene plastic rather with acetate one.

 Would you allow me to transfer your picture with the complete "fox souvenir" on "Soldat plastique " forum?.. for I am sure it will interest a lot the others animal collectors like us! :)

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These were sold in gift shops from mountaneous areas like Alps and Pyrenean mountains..
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Rogério, I had never seen this "fox souvenir" before this one. I checked on my french forum "Soldat plastique 1/32"  but there is none although  there are many with red deers, chamois, bears, dogs, roe deers, flamingoes, camargue bulls, gardians..

 If this fox is lighter than the common one, it's because it 's surely made with polystyrene plastic rather with acetate one.

 Would you allow me to transfer your picture with the complete "fox souvenir" on "Soldat plastique " forum?.. for I am sure it will interest a lot the others animal collectors like us! :)

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These were sold in gift shops from mountaneous areas like Alps and Pyrenean mountains..

Wonderful souvenirs, Alain! I'm glad you've found this topic. Very Happy Interesting the info about materials.
The fox with the fir is one model and the fox without the fir is another model. They are three iff we count the original Starlux.
Of course you can use any of my pictures wherever you want.
There is also this picture.
I received this one from the Netherlands while the figure with fir I received from Bulgaria.
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Very Happy Thank you very much Rogério, I am sure this piece will produice a great surprise!.. above all coming from Bulgaria! :)
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