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PostSubject: Re: Chris’ vintage finds in 2016   Chris’ vintage finds in 2016 - Page 2 EmptySat Dec 24, 2016 9:06 am

The Britains lion is absolutely awesome, even if the follower isn't bad, I prefer this one!

Britains copies and knockoffs are a world in themselves. A collector could specialized in them without taking the risk of getting bored.

The batch portrait is very nice and I would be happy to see some closer pics of the two Corgi toys. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Chris’ vintage finds in 2016   Chris’ vintage finds in 2016 - Page 2 EmptySun Dec 25, 2016 12:09 am

Hello Christophe

Be prepared for a few more Britains copies coming up soon. However, here we have the Hong Kong male lion again with a real life Britains okapi and another Corgi Toys plastic animal. They appear in this image due to being bought from the same dealer at the toy fair.

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Left to right: Britains Okapi number 1363 issued in 1961 and deleted in 1998 (shown is an early issue in aubergine colour);
Corgi Toys calf used as a load with three others for the beast carrier trailer number 58 and
Hong Kong copy of Britains first issue plastic male lion which was released in 1960 and replaced in 1972 under number 1341.

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PostSubject: Re: Chris’ vintage finds in 2016   Chris’ vintage finds in 2016 - Page 2 EmptySun Dec 25, 2016 12:33 am

Next set from the toy fair all purchased from the same dealer:

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In the centre is the Britains adult giraffe number 1348 issued in 1961 and deleted in 1972 to be replaced by a version with a movable neck. Amazing all these were in boxes and this giraffe survived with it’s tail still intact! Left to right: Hong Kong copy of Britains Indian elephant but much smaller; Hong Kong copy of Britains MiniSet elephant; Made in England Cherilea rhinoceros; Made in China zebra; Hong Kong copy of Crescent foal; Unknown monkey; Hong Kong white tailed deer; Unknown copy of Britains wild boar; Britains red deer stag, walking number 1364 issued in 1960 and deleted in 1971 - this is the PVC version which was released in 1968 and Singapore copy of a Timpo kangaroo.  Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Chris’ vintage finds in 2016   Chris’ vintage finds in 2016 - Page 2 EmptySun Dec 25, 2016 1:25 pm

That monkey is interesting, but also a little strange :)

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PostSubject: Re: Chris’ vintage finds in 2016   Chris’ vintage finds in 2016 - Page 2 EmptyMon Dec 26, 2016 12:01 am

Incredible the great vintage figures you can find through your peregrinations! I love especially the Cherilea rhino, it is such a crazy figure! I enjoy also that you tell us everything, even these copies! Very Happy

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My last animal figures added to my collection in 2016.

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On the left is the Indian elephant, thunk raised number 1311 issued in 1972 and deleted in 1998
and on the right is the African elephant, charging number 1309 issued in 1981 and deleted in 1998.
This was the last zoo / wild life animal figure released by Britains.

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The African elephant is now on the left and the Indian elephant on the right.

Both of these were bought with their boxes.

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PostSubject: Re: Chris’ vintage finds in 2016   Chris’ vintage finds in 2016 - Page 2 EmptySun Jan 01, 2017 9:28 am

Chris, you keep finding these amazing old models !!!
The elephants are gorgeous, - and in boxes, too, you say !  Shocked

For some reason I missed the previously shown batch, - they are such a joy to watch . And even more because you share from your enormous knowledge Applause

That giraffe !!!! And it was in box also ? Very Happy

Thankyou very much for sharing flower

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Major companies could had used Britains elephants as reference to their own elephant figures but they decided to give us, for a long time, very chubby elephants, cute but not realistic. They are improving now but still far from what Britains did. elephant

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Your last animal figures for your collection in 2016 are so great! cheers cheers

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Chris, you keep finding these amazing old models !!!
The elephants are gorgeous, - and in boxes, too, you say !  Shocked

For some reason I missed the previously shown batch, - they are such a joy to watch . And even more because you share from your enormous knowledge Applause

That giraffe !!!! And it was in box also ? Very Happy

Thankyou very much for sharing flower

Thank you Susanne - Britains only provided individual boxes for their elephant models in their "plastic period" so the giraffe even with that delicate tail had to survive without this protection.

Always a pleasure to share information.  Very Happy

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Major companies could had used Britains elephants as reference to their own elephant figures but they decided to give us, for a long time, very chubby elephants, cute but not realistic. They are improving now but still far from what Britains did. elephant

Thanks Roger - one thing that these vintage companies did do was to replicate the animal in miniature but I guess the current companies have to produce models that comply with safety standards and perhaps the main audience are much younger than they were in the 1960's.  Very Happy

I agree Britains elephants are excellent replicas and would be a good reference to today's manufacturers.  elephant  

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Your last animal figures for your collection in 2016 are so great! cheers  cheers

Many thanks Yvette. That African elephant has been on my wants list for a long time and this one was a reasonable price. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Chris’ vintage finds in 2016   Chris’ vintage finds in 2016 - Page 2 EmptyMon Jan 02, 2017 7:37 am

Beautieful elephants Chris :)

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Major companies could had used Britains elephants as reference to their own elephant figures but they decided to give us, for a long time, very chubby elephants, cute but not realistic. They are improving now but still far from what Britains did. elephant

Thanks Roger - one thing that these vintage companies did do was to replicate the animal in miniature but I guess the current companies have to produce models that comply with safety standards and perhaps the main audience are much younger than they were in the 1960's.  Very Happy

I agree Britains elephants are excellent replicas and would be a good reference to today's manufacturers.  elephant  

Maybe you're right Chris. However, safety standards is a good reason to make antelopes with thick legs or horns. Though, there's no reason to make elephant legs much thicker than they should be. I believe that is often a design decision to make them look closer to the design of a plush but with the detail of a quality toy what means they're really made for a younger audience. The quality of the sculptors also may be different not talking also about the scientific mistakes often common in Schleich figures like the wrong number of thoes in elephants, crocs, ostriches, dinos, etc. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Chris’ vintage finds in 2016   Chris’ vintage finds in 2016 - Page 2 EmptyFri Oct 27, 2017 11:53 pm

Hi, I'm a newbie and not totally sure if I'm writing this in the right place.....
I've just bought several old Arco zoo enclosures and posted on this site asking for any info regarding this company and to find out how old they are, etc......anyway Susanne has suggested asking you - Chris Sweetman, as you may be able to help me
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Hi, I'm a newbie and not totally sure if I'm writing this in the right place.....
I've just bought several old Arco zoo enclosures and posted on this site asking for any info regarding this company and to find out how old they are, etc......anyway Susanne has suggested asking you - Chris Sweetman, as you may be able to help me

Hi Kattoys

Dave mentioned this manufacturer in his post below which you have looked at and is probably the best resource available on the net.

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Paul Brookes has written a book about Hugar toys, they produced wooden buildings for Britains, and I know he is interested in toys of this type. I used to see him regularly at toy fairs but haven't seen him for a couple of years now and he would have been someone to ask.

Going back to Arco and age of their products I feel with the materials used, based on examples in Dave's post, that they could have been produced between the 1930's to the end of the 1960's.

Sorry I cannot add anything more on Arco.

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Great finds Chris!
I still have the Britains Rockpit boxed, nearly mint, that was the easiest one to find i guess...
It is for sale btw...
This old type of lion was copied so often by mainly Hong-Kong ect companies, and it was rather kind of annoying, as it quickly fell down because of the lifter paw haha. Laughing

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