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PostSubject: cave bears!..   cave bears!.. EmptyTue Nov 12, 2019 11:51 pm

cave bears were scarcely produced by old and modern known brands. During very long years, I had just the 1/32 scale Starlux which is not so bad, since it seems to have been created by Mr Massat, the main sculptor for Starlux, from wonderful Zdenek Burian's paintings:

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The cave bear general anatomy is easy to identify by 3 points:

-a well marked stop (break between muzzle and forehead)
-a high shoulder
-a falling down back line (because of shorter back legs)

this Starlux version has been confirmed by the discovery of magnificent Chauvet cave painting in South of France:

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..so when the Schleich cave bear 16 521 was released in 2003, I was very deceptive but so big was ma frustration by the lack of cave bears models that I bought it of course!..

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..the 3 caracteristics points are respected for it presents a marked stop, a high shoulder and a falling back line but it suffers a big defaut: it's microcephalic!..

..so, few years ago, I tried to cure this poor cave bear..

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..making its skull bigger and its neck thicker wit "Plastiroc" paste, for at this moment, 6 or 7 years ago, I did'nt know "WePAM" paste..

..and then, I could release it in Pleistcen epoch!..

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PostSubject: Re: cave bears!..   cave bears!.. EmptyWed Nov 13, 2019 6:19 am

Very interesting

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PostSubject: Re: cave bears!..   cave bears!.. EmptyWed Nov 13, 2019 10:16 pm

thank you Andreas! :)
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PostSubject: Re: cave bears!..   cave bears!.. EmptyFri Nov 15, 2019 12:16 am

that's a really big improvement Applause Applause

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PostSubject: Re: cave bears!..   cave bears!.. EmptyFri Nov 15, 2019 12:44 am

The prehistoric mammals series from Schleich, a remarkable collection from this company, was clearly not influenced by the same design tendencies of their wildlife range. One of the differences is that most wildlife figures are macrocephalic instead. Laughing
Interesting the surgery you performed, it is surely not the easiest operation one can do while customizing a figure. The head is the most complex part of an animal figure and the one whose mistakes are impossible to be unnnoticed. That's a brave work, thanks for sharing! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: cave bears!..   cave bears!.. EmptyFri Nov 15, 2019 5:07 am

Very good work on this model, with wonderful result ! Applause

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PostSubject: Re: cave bears!..   cave bears!.. EmptyFri Nov 15, 2019 6:34 am

thank you A-J, Rogério and Kosta! :)

Rogério, the Schleich glyptodon, macrauchenia and megatherium were rather good but the mammoth, the smilodon and this cave bear look strange to me!..
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PostSubject: Re: cave bears!..   cave bears!.. EmptyFri Nov 15, 2019 10:59 am

What a magnific job, Caracal! You're a true artist! The old Schleich model is really bad: it have a look that made me think in a giant ground sloth rather than a bear!

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PostSubject: Re: cave bears!..   cave bears!.. EmptyFri Nov 15, 2019 12:15 pm

Thank you Pardo! :)
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PostSubject: Re: cave bears!..   cave bears!.. EmptyFri Nov 15, 2019 10:53 pm

My fossil from a cave bear

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PostSubject: Re: cave bears!..   cave bears!.. EmptySat Nov 16, 2019 3:01 am

Very Happy Waow!! unbelievable!.. you have a museum?!.. cheers cheers Applause
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PostSubject: Re: cave bears!..   cave bears!.. EmptySat Nov 16, 2019 3:12 am

Caracal wrote:
Very Happy Waow!! unbelievable!.. you have a museum?!.. cheers cheers Applause

Thank you, not a museum. But a shelf full of fossils and minerals.

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PostSubject: Re: cave bears!..   cave bears!.. EmptySat Nov 16, 2019 10:27 pm

..so you're a multi-collector Andreas! Applause

..few years after I got this Schleich cave bear, I found an other one, from Bullyland, in a shop of National Museum of Natural History. It's the 58 352 which is on the 1999 catalog (but maybe released 1 or 2 years ago) among a very interesting and accurate range of prehistoric mammals which includes Neanderthal humans.

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As it was the only third cave bear model I knew, I bought it of course, but I was not very satified whith it, because of its Commonplace standing position and its too big and "toony" head.

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from Zdenek Burian


Standing up fighting (with human hunters) cave bear is a commonplace of prehistoric representations but we know now, Thank to ethologists, that bears never stand up when they attack, they charge, beat and bite their preys or opponent!..

moreover, it's difficult in such a position, to correctly judge the accuracy of the model!

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..so, as I recently could get 2 cheap models more, I tried to put one back on its 4 feet :

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..that made me realise that this model is not so bad with its well marked stop, its high shoulder and its falling back line, even if its head is a little big..

comparison wit the so accurate Zdenek Burian painting:

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..and released in pleistocen epoch:

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PostSubject: Re: cave bears!..   cave bears!.. EmptySun Nov 17, 2019 12:48 am

Interesting again

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PostSubject: Re: cave bears!..   cave bears!.. EmptySun Nov 17, 2019 6:05 am

thank you Andreas! :)
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PostSubject: Re: cave bears!..   cave bears!.. EmptySun Nov 17, 2019 10:20 am

Don't forget, there's also a small Play Visions one, from their bin series. It's... okay.

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PostSubject: Re: cave bears!..   cave bears!.. EmptySun Nov 17, 2019 12:03 pm

..and the Geoworld one which is probably the worst! :)

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PostSubject: Re: cave bears!..   cave bears!.. EmptySun Nov 17, 2019 7:35 pm

Nice!!!
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PostSubject: Re: cave bears!..   cave bears!.. EmptyMon Nov 18, 2019 5:32 am

thank you Shanti! :)
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PostSubject: Re: cave bears!..   cave bears!.. EmptyMon Nov 18, 2019 6:19 am

Caracal wrote:
..and the Geoworld one which is probably the worst! :)


And one from a blind bag set. I think Predators.

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PostSubject: Re: cave bears!..   cave bears!.. EmptyMon Nov 18, 2019 9:35 am

I don't know this one!.. Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: cave bears!..   cave bears!.. EmptyFri Mar 12, 2021 2:30 am

I wasn't too fond of the original version of Schleich's cave bear, the thin neck made it seem unusually long necked, you have honestly saved this model, and that without even having to shorten the neck.
I might attempt to do that with mine as well, would be at least worth a try.
The diorama shots are also just amazing, both with the Schleich one and the reposed Bullyland cave bear.
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PostSubject: Re: cave bears!..   cave bears!.. EmptyFri Mar 12, 2021 3:39 am

Thank you Burgerenby! :)
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