Unknown Clairet crocodile?

The book Soldats plastiques: Historique des marques françaises: Clairet by Alain Thomas and Daniel Trombetta shows the Clairet crocodiles below:
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Another crocodile was recently added to the TAW Clairet section (thanks to the contributor for the great photos):
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Because it isn't in the Thomas and Trombetta book (which is based on price lists and seems quite complete), I wonder whether this is really a Clairet. The book does mention that some models were not in the price list, and this includes the two crocodiles at the bottom right of the first picture. Is there perhaps another, hitherto undiscovered Clairet crocodile?

It could be

Very interesting

I was never in doubt that it is a clairet croc
The sculpt is rather like the Clairet model to the left in your picture, but you are right, the colours are more bright, and looking closer there are also some other differences

What brand can my croc be, then ?

The book is also interesting!!!!

Hey !!!

As far as I remember I got it in a Clairet-lot together with a peacock from Cyrnos !

Could it be a Cyrnos-croc ????

I don't know whether it is a Cymos, but their animals do seem more brightly coloured than Clairet. Clairet figures are usually marked F. Clairet FRANCE. Is your crocodile marked? The Clairet crocs in the book have their tails curves the other way than your croc.

rogerpgvg wrote:

I don't know whether it is a Cymos, but their animals do seem more brightly coloured than Clairet. Clairet figures are usually marked F. Clairet FRANCE. Is your crocodile marked? The Clairet crocs in the book have their tails curves the other way than your croc.

No, my croc is not marked at all

I believe not all Clairets are marked, but there is enough space underneath the croc, so I am guessing it isn't Clairet. But what is it?

rogerpgvg wrote:

I believe not all Clairets are marked, but there is enough space underneath the croc, so I am guessing it isn't Clairet. But what is it?

Yes !
What is it ?

I hope Christophe reads this, he knows a lot about the old, French brands

Once Thiérry posted this crocodile. It is not the same, I know but I think the style is very similar. Though, there is another problem, Thiérry identified it as "maybe Acedo".
If it is Acedo, I guess @Caracal knows.

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Roger ! How on earth do you remember

Yes, it surely looks very much like my croc

Is that a gharial?

well, I think these 2 crocs are the same model but the one posted by Thierry miss its low jaw! Unfortunatly, I don't know the Acedo croc but I know there is one!.. and as it's not from Clairet, Jim, Cyrnos and Jem, so it could be from Acédo. :)

I checked on "Soldat Plastique", it's still non identified..

In Montreuil, during the fiveties and sixties, there were many brands which copied each from over!

Caracal wrote:

well, I think these 2 crocs are the same model but the one posted by Thierry miss its low jaw! Unfortunatly, I don't know the Acedo croc but I know there is one!.. and as it's not from Clairet, Jim and Cyrnos, it could be from Acédo. :)

I agree, it is not Jim, - Jim used a softer material, and we know it is not Clairet.

But looking closer at the pictures of  Acedo models in TAI, I think it it is not the style of Acedo.
The material of the croc is very solid cream colour, and brightly painted. just like the peacock.
I do not think that is the style of Acedo

But how do we know it is not Cyrnos ?
Thierry was just guessing

Yes Susanne it could be from Cyrnos too, because few animals from this brand are known. Among them, I never seen a croc but maybe there is one!

here a picture from Lionel from "Soldat Plastique" about the same model:

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WOW !!! They are ever so charming

Thankyou for the picture, it really make me smile

..and do you want laugh?.. I received it this morning among a lot of vintage animals sent by the same Lionel but I had not noticed it was this one before answering this post!

Can you imagine such a coincidence?!

here it is:

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..it seems to have one canceled inscription inside the green area.. could you check on your please?..

WOW ! Yes ! What a strange coincidence

I have checked, there is no inscription on mine , - what a shame
Does Lionel know anything about it ?
Is Lionel on this forum ? Sorry, I don't know everyone's real name

Ohhh, are you going to show your new vintage models , please, please

The detective work is beginning to pay off: we are getting closer and closer to the truth. Just one more detective and we'll have solved it.

I hope so Roger!..

Susanne, they are mainly Clairet and Starlux you already know but some pieces are mysterious, I 'll show them OK!

Lionel is a friend from my french forum "Soldat Plastique" who, like me and some others, collect mainly vintage animals and I already asked to him if he had some news about this croc but I am waiting for his answer.. :)

rogerpgvg wrote:

The detective work is beginning to pay off: we are getting closer and closer to the truth. Just one more detective and we'll have solved it.

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Caracal wrote:

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Susanne, they are mainly Clairet and Starlux you already know but some pieces are mysterious, I 'll show them OK!

Ohhh, yes, please

Caracal wrote:

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Lionel is a friend from my french forum "Soldat Plastique" who, like me and some others, collect mainly vintage animals and I already asked to him if he had some news about this croc but I am waiting for his answer.. :)

Thankyou

Well, an other "Soldat Plastique " member, got it in a lot of Cyrnos models and presents it as Cyrnos in "Soldat Plastique" Cyrnos post.. :)

Caracal wrote:

Well, an other "Soldat Plastique " member, got it in a lot of Cyrnos models and presents it as Cyrnos in Cyrnos range.. :)

I'm loving this topic, so the Cyrnos conspiration is taking shape.

Roger wrote:

Caracal wrote:

Well, an other "Soldat Plastique " member, got it in a lot of Cyrnos models and presents it as Cyrnos in Cyrnos range.. :)

I'm loving this topic, so the Cyrnos conspiration is taking shape.