Very dear deer and a buffalo .

Almost 3 weeks ago I won two retired Papos at Ebay France.
I payed immediately with payPal, so when more than a week went, I began to wonder where they were.

After 2 weeks I contacted the seller, but got no reply, darned! I thought.
Do I have to go through a huge fight now ?
A second attempt to the seller also gave no reaction even if I tried both English, my horrible School-French and just as horrible Google-French

Then I had other things on my mind, but regularly thought that about where they were

And then, this morning the mail lady brought them
The retired bison and the retired deer, both marked 2003

The bison is wonderful, but the huge surprise was the deer !!!!!!
His antlers are glued on !!!

Here, first, the wonderful bison :
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But look at the deer ! He is so strange that I really, really adore him

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Even Schleich can`t compete making a figuere that is SO funny !
I LOVE that deer

Many congratulations susanne!
The bison is very nice and the deer is really strange but beautiful! :reindeer:
Very Papo style, spread back legs and, small head and those spots?!?!
Surely an European red deer with its summer coat! Isn't it??? :) And it is the third figure of woodland and I think that it was only two years in catalogue! Fantastic catch! :)
...and fantastic photos too!

Papo has come along way since those earlier figures!

Susanne, next time, you could remember you know a Crazy french macaque translator on STS

Congratulations Susanne, that was very strange they took so long to get to you but at least they're here now So the deer, have the antlers broken off and someone has glued them back on, or were they made like that?

Kikimalou wrote:

Susanne, next time, you could remember you know a Crazy french macaque translator on STS

Thankyou, Christophe, you are always so kind
I will remember next time, French is difficult, and the little I know is terribly rusty

Roger wrote:

......and those spots?!?!
Surely an European red deer with its summer coat! Isn't it??? :)

I wonder about those spots also !!!
As far as I know adult red deer do not have spots ?
Fallow deer do, but the antlers look more like those of a Virginia deer
Funny thing is that it does not have spots in the 2004-catalogue

baltimore zoo wrote:

Papo has come along way since those earlier figures!

They surely have !!!!!!!

HKHollinstone wrote:

Congratulations Susanne, that was very strange they took so long to get to you but at least they're here now So the deer, have the antlers broken off and someone has glued them back on, or were they made like that?

Thankyou, Harriet, yes, I wonder where the parcel has been. The address was clear and easy to read.
The antlers were made that way! They are also glued on in the picture in Torben`s site
It seems they used a lot of glue in the first animals

SUSANNE wrote:

HKHollinstone wrote:

Congratulations Susanne, that was very strange they took so long to get to you but at least they're here now So the deer, have the antlers broken off and someone has glued them back on, or were they made like that?

Thankyou, Harriet, yes, I wonder where the parcel has been. The address was clear and easy to read.
The antlers were made that way! They are also glued on in the picture in Torben`s site
It seems they used a lot of glue in the first animals

There is a lowcost international shipping for small parcels, it is sometimes very fast, sometimes very slow but it is safe

SUSANNE wrote:

Kikimalou wrote:

Susanne, next time, you could remember you know a Crazy french macaque translator on STS

Thankyou, Christophe, you are always so kind
I will remember next time, French is difficult, and the little I know is terribly rusty

Roger wrote:

......and those spots?!?!
Surely an European red deer with its summer coat! Isn't it??? :)

I wonder about those spots also !!!
As far as I know adult red deer do not have spots ?
Fallow deer do, but the antlers look more like those of a Virginia deer
Funny thing is that it does not have spots in the 2004-catalogue

baltimore zoo wrote:

Papo has come along way since those earlier figures!

They surely have !!!!!!!

HKHollinstone wrote:

Congratulations Susanne, that was very strange they took so long to get to you but at least they're here now So the deer, have the antlers broken off and someone has glued them back on, or were they made like that?

Thankyou, Harriet, yes, I wonder where the parcel has been. The address was clear and easy to read.
The antlers were made that way! They are also glued on in the picture in Torben`s site
It seems they used a lot of glue in the first animals

Yes, Christophe! I don't know other catalogues and I think this deer was only available 2 years, anyway it looks they painted the figure like the female in 2004 catalogue than they noticed that it was a male, glued the horns and we have a travesty! :reindeer:
Those spots were perfect for a fallow deer but I can't see nothing more that could makes me think of it. The horns of fallows are very important to be not respected as they are. And the very small tail makes you understand clearly that it is not a Virginia. But where is the beard of a red deer??? There are some beardless in Spain, very very confuse, unless for me!
Susanne, it looks you have a special deer!

Congrats Susanne! The bison is VERY nice!

-Kristie

Izzy wrote:

Congrats Susanne! The bison is VERY nice!

-Kristie

Yes, isn`t he ?
Thankyou, Kristie

I do not really understand they made a new one, - or they could have made the other type, - the wood bison I think it is called ?

Roger, my dear, my deer is NOT a female dear deer But he sure is special

BTW, - are there not very few Fallow deer-models ?
I can`t remember seing a model of one...
They are SO beautyful. I see them around here sometimes, they are enormously elegant !

That´s the reason why I´m affraid to use PayPal...
And speaking about Papo... papo his having their own style and sometimes I don´t like them... but... congratulations for your new items. Bison is really good. I have this one too

SUSANNE wrote:

Izzy wrote:

Congrats Susanne! The bison is VERY nice!

-Kristie

Yes, isn`t he ?
Thankyou, Kristie

I do not really understand they made a new one, - or they could have made the other type, - the wood bison I think it is called ?

Roger, my dear, my deer is NOT a female dear deer But he sure is special

BTW, - are there not very few Fallow deer-models ?
I can`t remember seing a model of one...
They are SO beautyful. I see them around here sometimes, they are enormously elegant !

No,no Susanne! I'm not saying that he is a female, I'm only saying that it is a male with a dress like a female, don't you agree? See it in 2004 Papo catalogue! :)
There's no fallow deers in modern brands unfortunately, are very nice for collectors and also for children, are really beautiful!!! But Kiki, some time ago, showed some from his collection! :)

MartinH wrote:

That´s the reason why I´m affraid to use PayPal...
And speaking about Papo... papo his having their own style and sometimes I don´t like them... but... congratulations for your new items. Bison is really good. I have this one too

Martin, remember that those are from the first year of the brand! Deer and bison were already replaced! ...and in Papo every figures get better from the first to second generation! With Schleich the evolution is slower or involution! You see also with CollectA that the second lion is much better than the first while in Schleich the second lion is better than the third! Maybe the Papo bison is one of the figures where the evolution is not too big! :) Damage seeing brands with a lot of experience in the market not having the best figures of the market! Schleich bison, is the worst I know, don't you agree????

Roger wrote:

MartinH wrote:

That´s the reason why I´m affraid to use PayPal...
And speaking about Papo... papo his having their own style and sometimes I don´t like them... but... congratulations for your new items. Bison is really good. I have this one too

Martin, remember that those are from the first year of the brand! Deer and bison were already replaced! ...and in Papo every figures get better from the first to second generation! With Schleich the evolution is slower or involution! You see also with CollectA that the second lion is much better than the first while in Schleich the second lion is better than the third! Maybe the Papo bison is one of the figures where the evolution is not too big! :) Damage seeing brands with a lot of experience in the market not having the best figures of the market! Schleich bison, is the worst I know, don't you agree????

Ofcourse I agree with evolution of papo and Schleich...
But I can´t agree with "Schleich bison, is the worst I know"... i like Schleich bison

MartinH wrote:

i like Schleich bison

Me too I've just ordered one and the calf

Congratulations on finally getting your package and having these wonderful additions, even if the deer has glued on antlers. Its charming.

MartinH wrote:

Roger wrote:

MartinH wrote:

That´s the reason why I´m affraid to use PayPal...
And speaking about Papo... papo his having their own style and sometimes I don´t like them... but... congratulations for your new items. Bison is really good. I have this one too

Martin, remember that those are from the first year of the brand! Deer and bison were already replaced! ...and in Papo every figures get better from the first to second generation! With Schleich the evolution is slower or involution! You see also with CollectA that the second lion is much better than the first while in Schleich the second lion is better than the third! Maybe the Papo bison is one of the figures where the evolution is not too big! :) Damage seeing brands with a lot of experience in the market not having the best figures of the market! Schleich bison, is the worst I know, don't you agree????

Ofcourse I agree with evolution of papo and Schleich...
But I can´t agree with "Schleich bison, is the worst I know"... i like Schleich bison

The worst I know doesn't mean that I don't like, and it is an opinion, the CollectA is better, also the Papo, Mojo. Safari and Bullyland I don't know! Anyway I don't really like the Schleich bison!
The worst I know is not a definitive opinion as the worst of ever!

Ah, Martin , IMHO the Schleich cape buffalo is the worst of the 3 I know and I love him even I don't have it! :)

HKHollinstone wrote:

MartinH wrote:

i like Schleich bison

Me too I've just ordered one and the calf

I look very much forward to seing your new bisons.
Mine the newer one is painted a bit strange, I think

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The calf is lovely

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I do not really understand they made a new one, - or they could have made the other type, - the wood bison I think it is called ?


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Well, I think the old is a Wood bison, you can see it seeing if the hump is squared. If the hump is rounded so it is a plains! I think the new one is a plains but its pose turns not easy to see the hump and Balty says that it looks more like a Wood!
The fantastic CollectA American bison is clearly a plains, it's easy to identify a figure that respects the characteristics of a subspecies! :)

SUSANNE wrote:

HKHollinstone wrote:

MartinH wrote:

i like Schleich bison

Me too I've just ordered one and the calf

I look very much forward to seing your new bisons.
Mine the newer one is painted a bit strange, I think

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The calf is lovely

Should arrive tomorrow - I wonder what the paintwork will be like compared to yours - I have the old version too, I love him