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PostSubject: Kik Horse-Set with newRay-Horses   Kik Horse-Set with newRay-Horses EmptyThu Aug 12, 2021 4:07 am

Hello,
I found a horse-set distributed by Kik which is a low-price-shop in germany an some european-country.
The horses are made for scale 1:32 and are marked with "new-ray".
Fortunately I buyed some new-ray horses and they are nearly the same as the kik-new-ray horses. The new-ray-horses belong to some different new-ray-series I will show you later.
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Wonderful horses, they look full of life! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Kik Horse-Set with newRay-Horses   Kik Horse-Set with newRay-Horses EmptyThu Aug 12, 2021 8:32 am

Nice horses even though they are copies of New Ray.

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PostSubject: Re: Kik Horse-Set with newRay-Horses   Kik Horse-Set with newRay-Horses EmptyThu Aug 12, 2021 9:07 am

Taos wrote:
Nice horses even though they are copies of New Ray.
I think they are made by new-ray but the molds did not close enough so you can see the parting line. And the horse are not painted so lovingly as the new-ray horses. So it was possible to offer this horses at a low price (5x horses for 5,- Euro).
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PostSubject: Re: Kik Horse-Set with newRay-Horses   Kik Horse-Set with newRay-Horses EmptyThu Aug 12, 2021 9:56 am

I am very intrigued how knock-offs are made, not just of New-rays, but more generally. One possibility is of course that the copy is made by "scanning" the original, essentially stealing the design of the model. It is clear that this happened with the vintage Hong Kong figures, which have less detail and are often smaller than the original (mostly Britains) figures. 

But these New-ray knock-offs are actually marked New-ray, so it seems unlikely that they are stolen designs. As Benno suggests, it is more likely that the same factory in China produces both the real New-ray figures and the knock-offs.

It's something that I find quite interesting, because I wonder whether this is also happens with knock-offs of major companies like Schleich. Often these knock-offs are older models and companies like Schleich may allow (or don't prevent) the factory from producing lower-quality knock-offs. Models by the major companies usually have a copyright mark on it, so I'd think that copying them would be illegal and the factory and shops that sell them would get into trouble, unless the company that designed them allowed the knock-offs. 

Yet another possibility is that the company under whose name a figure is sold (e.g., Schleich) doesn't own the copyright, but that the factory owns it. They could then sell their figures under any name, and also unbranded knock-offs. Maia & Borges are an example of a company that has produced (often the same) figures for several major brands and Chinese companies such as Wing Mau and Nayab also produce figures under a variety of brand names.

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PostSubject: Re: Kik Horse-Set with newRay-Horses   Kik Horse-Set with newRay-Horses EmptyThu Aug 12, 2021 12:21 pm

I believe Roger is correct and those may be New-Ray, from the German subsidiary with KIK as a customer. As KIK is a chain oriented for low prices, naturally New-Ray produced figures with a lower quality and consequently cheaper to produce. That's very common in this business, however, there's always the chance that those are non legite figures, I haven't read the cardboard to check if there is any reference to the manufacturing.

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PostSubject: Re: Kik Horse-Set with newRay-Horses   Kik Horse-Set with newRay-Horses EmptyThu Aug 12, 2021 1:34 pm

Hello,
I found some of the other new-ray-horses.
Here they are.
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PostSubject: Re: Kik Horse-Set with newRay-Horses   Kik Horse-Set with newRay-Horses EmptyThu Aug 12, 2021 1:51 pm

Hello,
here are the Item-numbers and pictures out of the new-ray-catalog.
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PostSubject: Re: Kik Horse-Set with newRay-Horses   Kik Horse-Set with newRay-Horses EmptyThu Aug 12, 2021 5:00 pm

I think they're made by new-ray but the molds didn't close enough so you'll see the parting line. and therefore the horse isn't painted so lovingly because of the new-ray horses.
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PostSubject: Re: Kik Horse-Set with newRay-Horses   Kik Horse-Set with newRay-Horses EmptyFri Aug 13, 2021 2:01 am

Hello,
here are a comparison between Kik-box and New-Ray-box.
I think the Kik-box was produced by New-Ray.
In my next articels I will present you some New-Ray-boxes.
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PostSubject: Re: Kik Horse-Set with newRay-Horses   Kik Horse-Set with newRay-Horses EmptyFri Aug 13, 2021 2:55 am

Great New-ray collection! The large box with American wildlife is especially fantastic. The Kik boxes are indeed remarkably similar to the New-ray boxes; they must be produced in the same factory.

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PostSubject: Re: Kik Horse-Set with newRay-Horses   Kik Horse-Set with newRay-Horses EmptySat Aug 14, 2021 2:24 am

I agree, New-Ray is producing for KIK, that's what seems to be the strongest possibility.

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Wow, so many boxes! cheers And so many boxes full of dogs! drunken
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