The CollectA neanderthalers, hmmmm....

Yesterday at last I got some of the new CollectAs, among them the Neanderthaler-couple.
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The lady is strong and heavy boned, as I think Neanderthalers were.
And she has a really nice face.
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But the MAN !!!!
He looks slike a mix between Hansi Hinterseer and a thin Schwarzenegger, comming right from the hair stylist
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Perhaps some can live with that, but the guy can not stand. I had to use blue tack when taking pictures
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They are very well done, Congratulations SUSANNE

Congrats Susanne!

The only thing I don't like is the tattoo behind.

Manofacturing a figure is always harder than we think. See here, with a base this figure would never have problems standing and the tattoo would find a space surely in the bottom of the base. But isn't it nice to have them without bases?
I am an enthusiast of figures without base, but I received my Maia & Borges birds and I must confess that I love them, they are not invasive to the figure and they are beautiful with colorful flowers and so.
I like that these figures have not base but I like M&B birds bases. Confuse? Yes! :)
Susanne, congratulations for your figures, they are great, it is nice to see a mother hunting with her son!
Also their nails are very clean, that is formidable. If I find a less drunken boy I'll let you know!

I don't really like these 2...I think they look like some comic characters from the late '80s. Plus, if the male can't stand and the female is topless, I am not sure I will buy them. Sorry Susanne...

Roger, do you have photos of the birds?

Thankyou, Alvaro and Ken

You are right, Roger !!! It is a mother and a boy, of course

I must make a new picture, where Mom goes first, and the son goes after, looking down to see where he goes, so he does not fall all the time.
I think in the age where they grow a lot, boys fall over their own legs all the time , so in fact, they are very realistic

Mihnea, come on Of course she is topless. They are Neanderthalers !!!!
They did not have paparazzis then

Wildheart wrote:

Roger, do you have photos of the birds?

Mihnea, I will probably show my birds but not now but you can see the fantastic pictures of Yvett (page 3) and Susanne (page4) in this topic:
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By the way, I love that these CollectA figures are baseless but also that they are topless. I really can't see anything wrong in it!

ken yeo wrote:

Congrats Susanne!

The only thing I don't like is the tattoo behind.

It's time to be serious ladies and gentlemen

There is no tattoo to be seen, it is ritual scarification !

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Wildheart wrote:

I don't really like these 2...I think they look like some comic characters from the late '80s. Plus, if the male can't stand and the female is topless, I am not sure I will buy them. Sorry Susanne...

Roger wrote:

By the way, I love that these CollectA figures are baseless but also that they are topless. I really can't see anything wrong in it!

I agree a bit with Mihnea on the Topless point. Not a matter of indecent exposure of course

Neanderthaler were living in cold Europe during Ice ages, I guess they have clothes style closer to Inuits than Tarzan

Funny family, mother and son yes? Congratulations Susanne
Interesting scarification indeed, I thought the writing was Homo Sapiens invention

ana wrote:

Funny family, mother and son yes? Congratulations Susanne
Interesting scarification indeed, I thought the writing was Homo Sapiens invention

Here Mom is teaching Son how to catch a kittycat, luring Kitty with a juicy skull

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I begin to like these two ! They are fun to play with

Great pictures Susanne! I'm so glad you started this thread; it is really interesting, for lots of reasons.

The son's "tramp stamp" on his back surprised me. Apparently someone at CollectA is very attached to him and wants to make sure everybody knows who he belongs to.

The topless mother doesn't bother me in the least. Although, Christophe's point about what Neanderthal would have likely been wearing is interesting and seems relevant. On the other hand, even in a cold climate, hunting is hard work.

In general, I'm not a fan of models with a base. But, as always, I can make exceptions. I love the Kaiyodo Science Museum Bongo and their ChocoQ King Cheetah, base included. I have some Colorata models with bases and I don't mind -- in particular, I love the running Cheetah.

But models that tip over?...arrghh...that drives me crazy. It's one of the reasons Noah's Pals sometimes irritates me. The Female Ostrich and Male Roan are horrible in this respect. The tacky substance on the feet is a GREAT idea.

Again, I love the photos Susanne!

ahaaa,,you got them

it's on my wishlist to
as a prehistoric collector,i must have them 2
and as you know

there wil be 2 more,
a little boy and another man

see picture on a fair somewere in the world

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and here you can see that she was more dressed

@ susanne

can you make a screen with the bullyland neandertalers
and if you have,,the papo neandertalers

so i can see how big they are
because i don't have the sabertooth from papo yet
that you used as a scale model

martien

With the tattoo behind he look like a Boxer .

They are good but this tattoo

SUSANNE wrote:

Yesterday at last I got some of the new CollectAs, among them the Neanderthaler-couple.
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how funny that an earlier model had a fur bikini top. I like the au naturel look better.

Thanks for the pictures Martien!

STORMnl wrote:

@ susanne

can you make a screen with the bullyland neandertalers
and if you have,,the papo neandertalers

so i can see how big they are
because i don't have the sabertooth from papo yet
that you used as a scale model

martien

My Papo Neanderguys are in the room where my son is sleeping , so here some of the Bullyguys are showing the size.
Westie also wants to "show". Perhaps he hopes the lady will throw him a bone
The cavepeople seem to find him more scary than a sabretooth giant-cat
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Scott, I like the natural lady best also, - it is so funny that she should have worn a bikini-top - and even one without shoulder-straps

Kikimalou wrote:

I agree a bit with Mihnea on the Topless point. Not a matter of indecent exposure of course

Neanderthaler were living in cold Europe during Ice ages, I guess they have clothes style closer to Inuits than Tarzan

About topless:
Niandertals lived not only in glacial eras but also in interglacials where the weather was warmer.
In these periods, even in Central Europe, we could easily find warm periods in Summer like we find in our days.
Also it looks they lived in Portugal, so another reason to think that they not only lived in cold places.
Studies are also showing that they had more resistence to cold weather what is even one more reason.
I think we don't need more reasons to find a topless lady.
But the most interesting is that it looks that Neandertals were matriarchal communities where women had a higher social status.
So what better than a topless condition to show their dominance? Why not?
I know some of my considerations could look silly because you cannot find them among "paleo-experts", but you already know that I don't like when "paleo-experts" start considering their theories as absolute truths behaving like the most fanatic religious acerdots.
Of course I'm not talking about you or any other member of this forum. :)
To conclude, I think that covering they with clothes it was less visible the morphological differences between a Neandertal and a Homo sapiens, so I think the figures are more educative in that way.

@ susanne

Thanks for the pictures

now i can see how big they are

martien

You are wellcome, Martien

About topless again.
I think there would have been absolutely no special idea about topless or not.
If we look at nature-people, the naked body is notghing special at all.

Even in a very cold climate. Just take the Eskimos in Greenland.
Before "white man" came, it was natural for them to take off their clothes when it got hot in the iglos.
The embarasment about the naked body is mainly a question of religion and/or fashion.
It is certainly not something humans are borne with

On the subject of the Man not standing correctly.

Have you try doing some sort of heat treatment?


You can give him a shower in some HOT tap water(it should not boil) or blow the air onto him with a hair dreyer.

I have used these methods in the past with majour success, without unwanted harm.


also; wow, they actaully made a second man and a child.

Thankyou Takama

He CAN stand without support, but only for at couple of seconds, then he he falls.
His feet are both pointing the same way as his shoulders ( or hos to explain ), and the upper part of him is much heavier than the rest.
In other words :
The point of graviation is very high, and the supporting area is vey narrow.
Further the base of his feet are not completely even.
So he would have to be in perfect equilibrium to be able to stand anywhere stable
If only his feet had been made to point a little out. Or if his arms and shoulders had been held sidewards as ballance

Roger wrote:

Kikimalou wrote:

I agree a bit with Mihnea on the Topless point. Not a matter of indecent exposure of course

Neanderthaler were living in cold Europe during Ice ages, I guess they have clothes style closer to Inuits than Tarzan

About topless:
Niandertals lived not only in glacial eras but also in interglacials where the weather was warmer.
In these periods, even in Central Europe, we could easily find warm periods in Summer like we find in our days.
Also it looks they lived in Portugal, so another reason to think that they not only lived in cold places.
Studies are also showing that they had more resistence to cold weather what is even one more reason.
I think we don't need more reasons to find a topless lady.
But the most interesting is that it looks that Neandertals were matriarchal communities where women had a higher social status.
So what better than a topless condition to show their dominance? Why not?
I know some of my considerations could look silly because you cannot find them among "paleo-experts", but you already know that I don't like when "paleo-experts" start considering their theories as absolute truths behaving like the most fanatic religious acerdots.
Of course I'm not talking about you or any other member of this forum. :)
To conclude, I think that covering they with clothes it was less visible the morphological differences between a Neandertal and a Homo sapiens, so I think the figures are more educative in that way.

SUSANNE wrote:

You are wellcome, Martien

About topless again.
I think there would have been absolutely no special idea about topless or not.
If we look at nature-people, the naked body is notghing special at all.

Even in a very cold climate. Just take the Eskimos in Greenland.
Before "white man" came, it was natural for them to take off their clothes when it got hot in the iglos.
The embarasment about the naked body is mainly a question of religion and/or fashion.
It is certainly not something humans are borne with

At last a good discussion

My point is :

I would like to see less naked Neandertal.
Not because of religious or puritanical behavior, even less for fear of indecent exposure.

I agree inuit are naked in their igloo but I'm not sure they hunt a lot in this igloo.
I also agree about interglacials periods but what is particular of Neandertal is they lived also during colder periods.
Even if there is exocets, most of the fishes can't fly
I also think that, even if Neandertal were cold adapted they were also "heat attracted"
I think the topless fashion is also a behavior, just like the Bikini was before.
I guess companies are producing half naked Neandertal because they are more appealing and in the spirit of the time.
I would like more "civilized" Neandertal but I'm afraid no company would make some, thinking they would not sell them
The real thing is I have a special place in my heart for the Neandertal people. I would like to see models like the pics below, IMHO it would be more audacious than topless outfits

If I had a company I would make Neanderthals like this... and I will certainly lost a lot of money


And again because I can't resist

I don't agree on the topless subject with some of you...
As said before, Europe had summers to, even in the last ice age, and temperatures went up in the summer to, depending where the Neanderthals lived.
I am happy some company's decided to make a figurine that was not fully covered with clothes, hunting or not!
As the women did most of the work in those times, they were warm and sweaty to, so i understand why she took of the upper part of her "furr-bikini".
I always thought you French were more free in thoughts Christophe, we have so much full coverd Neanderthal women already...
The point is that most manufacturers are making models that are more or less decent to look at, specially for the children, and even forgetting to make geniatials to in some cases.
Well, that is not natural, and there is nothing wrong with women showing their breasts, as most female animals do this, even in colde times, the babies do need milk, isn't it?
But ok, maybe we Dutch and Scandinavians are more free in our thoughts... (o)):