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carlysulli
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| | | | donny ong
Country/State : indonesia Age : 52 Joined : 2012-10-10 Posts : 2883
| Subject: Re: Mojo 2013 Clouded Leopard!!! ... the end! Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:20 pm | |
| Awesome! (o)): (o)): An addition to my hitlist. |
| | | ken yeo
Country/State : Singapore Age : 54 Joined : 2010-04-04 Posts : 5428
| Subject: Re: Mojo 2013 Clouded Leopard!!! ... the end! Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:13 pm | |
| At last, we seen one on the market! Beautiful! _________________ http://www.collectorsquest.com/collector/ken-yeo
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| | | Kikimalou Admin
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| Subject: Re: Mojo 2013 Clouded Leopard!!! ... the end! Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:38 pm | |
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| | | alexmotoc
Country/State : Romania Age : 48 Joined : 2010-07-08 Posts : 252
| Subject: Re: Mojo 2013 Clouded Leopard!!! ... the end! Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:07 pm | |
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| | | Fisva
Country/State : Poland Age : 34 Joined : 2012-08-15 Posts : 1094
| Subject: Re: Mojo 2013 Clouded Leopard!!! ... the end! Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:15 am | |
| Such a shame that Mojo is not available in Poland The leopard is beautiful!!! |
| | | bojan
Country/State : slovenia Age : 47 Joined : 2012-01-04 Posts : 1023
| Subject: Re: Mojo 2013 Clouded Leopard!!! ... the end! Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:21 am | |
| I wasn't expecting it for the last one (I thought it would be Takin made by Anna! well maybe next year). That tail is just wonderful and the face wow! Now the path is open for other brands too to start making smaller cats as well (Ocelot, Caracal, Serval..) not just the regular big ones. Well done, Mojö! _________________ Bojan
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| | | HKHollinstone
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| Subject: Re: Mojo 2013 Clouded Leopard!!! ... the end! Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:42 am | |
| He's lovely _________________ Harriet My *Collection* My *Handmade Animal Sculpture*
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| | | lucky luke
Country/State : FRANCE Saint-Louis Age : 62 Joined : 2010-07-17 Posts : 6299
| Subject: Re: Mojo 2013 Clouded Leopard!!! ... the end! Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:06 am | |
| [quote="Bojan"]I wasn't expecting it for the last one (I thought it would be Takin made by Anna! well maybe next year). That tail is just wonderful and the face wow! Now the path is open for other brands too to start making smaller cats as well (Ocelot, Caracal, Serval..) not just the regular big ones. Well done, Mojö![/quote (o)): (o)): (o)): (o)): |
| | | PeGe
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| Subject: Re: Mojo 2013 Clouded Leopard!!! ... the end! Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:11 am | |
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| | | widukind
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| Subject: Re: Mojo 2013 Clouded Leopard!!! ... the end! Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:26 am | |
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| | | Bongo
Country/State : Germany Age : 54 Joined : 2011-10-13 Posts : 371
| Subject: Re: Mojo 2013 Clouded Leopard!!! ... the end! Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:11 am | |
| Really nice, Moyo made a cat which looks like similar to a clouded leopard, but unfortunately, it just looks like one, too bad, tehy didn't made really a clouded leopard.
So I think, I should send them pcitures of clouded leopards, so can they see, how this species is looking, so maybe they will recognize, they made a totally wrong body,a wrong colour and wrong spots, and whats worse-its smiling !
Mojo made a really good step in the right direction doing great and unuasally species-now thyy have to do the next step, to make GREAT and realistic looking figures of them-maybe in a couple of years. I hope, they will do then better models of the same specis......
Not all of their figures are bad, but this one is of them worse models from Mojo,also the honey badgers:cry:
And no, I'm NOT to strong with them, just dissappointed. |
| | | A-J
Country/State : The Netherlands Age : 28 Joined : 2012-05-11 Posts : 1543
| Subject: Re: Mojo 2013 Clouded Leopard!!! ... the end! Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:04 am | |
| I do think it looks like a clouded leopard and a very beautiful one! it's already on my wish list ! _________________ Anne-Joke ajs.artistry - Instagram AJs Artistry Shop - Etsy
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| | | jarda
Country/State : Česká republika Age : 52 Joined : 2011-01-24 Posts : 1308
| Subject: Re: Mojo 2013 Clouded Leopard!!! ... the end! Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:06 am | |
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| | | sphyrna18
Country/State : Pennsylvania, USA Age : 42 Joined : 2010-09-16 Posts : 361
| Subject: Re: Mojo 2013 Clouded Leopard!!! ... the end! Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:34 pm | |
| - jarda wrote:
- widukind wrote:
- Absolutly the best clouded leopard in the collector market!!! I think i will add this clouded leopard in my zoo
And yes , thanks Mojö Andreas, I hope You are joking right now IMHO there are way better clouds (regardless these cats are smaller)
After some good/very good figures from Mojo 2013 production (emu, vulture, gaur or quagga) I think this one is rather bad than average one. Poor sculpt (of head - at least), unrealistic bad painting and weird face painting... What is so interesting on the caudal part of this figure? (or better question: Why we can not see the head from the front view?)
O.T.: After I saw two Mojo birds from 2013, I was very curious for announced crowned crane or secretary bird. Why Mojo decided not to release these?! were, are and probably will be Papo domain I've always wondered if those Kaiyodos were actually meant to be Clouded Leopards. I mean, I know they're often sold as that, but I don't know how that fits with the Animals of Japan theme. However, I've also seen them listed as Leopard Cats, with the black one listed as an Iriomote Cat. Leopard Cat [img] [/img] I mean, the tail on those figures is really short if that's actually a clouded leopard. I'm not saying it's not a clouded leopard - I'm just saying that it seems like a really obvious mistake for Kaiyodo to have made. And besides, I also own those figures, and I don't see them as being the be-all end-all of clouded leopards. I just see them as being the only real contenders right now. But it wouldn't be hard to convince me that they aren't actually clouded leopards. |
| | | Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35847
| Subject: Re: Mojo 2013 Clouded Leopard!!! ... the end! Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:52 pm | |
| - Bongo wrote:
- Really nice, Moyo made a cat which looks like similar to a clouded leopard, but unfortunately, it just looks like one, too bad, tehy didn't made really a clouded leopard.
So I think, I should send them pcitures of clouded leopards, so can they see, how this species is looking, so maybe they will recognize, they made a totally wrong body,a wrong colour and wrong spots, and whats worse-its smiling !
Mojo made a really good step in the right direction doing great and unuasally species-now thyy have to do the next step, to make GREAT and realistic looking figures of them-maybe in a couple of years. I hope, they will do then better models of the same specis......
Not all of their figures are bad, but this one is of them worse models from Mojo,also the honey badgers
And no, I'm NOT to strong with them, just dissappointed. Hello Bongo, I think Pege made a very interesting comment saying that the sculpting is great but the painting is simplified for mass production. Though I think it is far from bad and the sculpting looks superb to me. Anyway, I see you have a very different opinion and you really look sad. It surely means that you have high expectations from Mojo and that you wanted a figure even better. However I think that sending pictures of clouded leopard to a brand that listens to us and read respectfully all our comments, trying to say that the brand doesn't know what it is, is an unrespectful thing. Though, I'd loved to receive your pictures and explanations on my e-mail and discuss them friendly with you. If you're right, I'm sure Mojo will consider and change what possible, it is a brand that has a huge respect for us and you surely appreciate it.
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| | | Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35847
| Subject: Re: Mojo 2013 Clouded Leopard!!! ... the end! Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:05 pm | |
| - sphyrna18 wrote:
- jarda wrote:
- widukind wrote:
- Absolutly the best clouded leopard in the collector market!!! I think i will add this clouded leopard in my zoo
And yes , thanks Mojö Andreas, I hope You are joking right now IMHO there are way better clouds (regardless these cats are smaller)
After some good/very good figures from Mojo 2013 production (emu, vulture, gaur or quagga) I think this one is rather bad than average one. Poor sculpt (of head - at least), unrealistic bad painting and weird face painting... What is so interesting on the caudal part of this figure? (or better question: Why we can not see the head from the front view?)
O.T.: After I saw two Mojo birds from 2013, I was very curious for announced crowned crane or secretary bird. Why Mojo decided not to release these?! were, are and probably will be Papo domain I've always wondered if those Kaiyodos were actually meant to be Clouded Leopards. I mean, I know they're often sold as that, but I don't know how that fits with the Animals of Japan theme. However, I've also seen them listed as Leopard Cats, with the black one listed as an Iriomote Cat.
Leopard Cat [img][/img]
I mean, the tail on those figures is really short if that's actually a clouded leopard. I'm not saying it's not a clouded leopard - I'm just saying that it seems like a really obvious mistake for Kaiyodo to have made.
And besides, I also own those figures, and I don't see them as being the be-all end-all of clouded leopards. I just see them as being the only real contenders right now. But it wouldn't be hard to convince me that they aren't actually clouded leopards. I'm sure the left and lighter one is a clouded leopard, the continental species. I only can tell it from markings once a sitting pose is always very poor in terms of shape information. Maybe the 2nd one is a Sunda but I'm not sure. The 3rd one cannot be a clouded leopard, unless there is a completely unknown pattern for me. |
| | | sphyrna18
Country/State : Pennsylvania, USA Age : 42 Joined : 2010-09-16 Posts : 361
| Subject: Re: Mojo 2013 Clouded Leopard!!! ... the end! Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:22 pm | |
| - Roger wrote:
- I'm sure the left and lighter one is a clouded leopard, the continental species. I only can tell it from markings once a sitting pose is always very poor in terms of shape information. Maybe the 2nd one is a Sunda but I'm not sure. The 3rd one cannot be a clouded leopard, unless there is a completely unknown pattern for me.
I agree that pelage color for the yellow and grey ones looks like a clouded leopard, but I was just wondering if Kaiyodo has ever actually called them Clouded Leopards. If they have, then how did they fit into the Animals of Japan theme, and what is the story of the "black" one? I've never seen a black clouded leopard like that. Also, given that clouded leopards' tails are easily as long as their HBL, don't you think that the Kaiyodo's tails are a little short? Plus, the painting isn't all that wonderful on the Kaiyodo's. It's okay, but not wonderful. I think that to say that these are THE BEST clouded leopards is perhaps a little zealous; I have them - they're pretty decent, and I'm glad I have them. But I've never held them as the standard-bearer of what a clouded leopard should look like. I think Mojo's clouded leopard is understandably simplistic in paint-scheme, given the cost of complex painting, but I think the sculpt looks great. |
| | | Roger Admin
Country/State : Portugal Age : 50 Joined : 2010-08-20 Posts : 35847
| Subject: Re: Mojo 2013 Clouded Leopard!!! ... the end! Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:34 pm | |
| - sphyrna18 wrote:
- Roger wrote:
- I'm sure the left and lighter one is a clouded leopard, the continental species. I only can tell it from markings once a sitting pose is always very poor in terms of shape information. Maybe the 2nd one is a Sunda but I'm not sure. The 3rd one cannot be a clouded leopard, unless there is a completely unknown pattern for me.
I agree that pelage color for the yellow and grey ones looks like a clouded leopard, but I was just wondering if Kaiyodo has ever actually called them Clouded Leopards. If they have, then how did they fit into the Animals of Japan theme, and what is the story of the "black" one? I've never seen a black clouded leopard like that. Also, given that clouded leopards' tails are easily as long as their HBL, don't you think that the Kaiyodo's tails are a little short? Plus, the painting isn't all that wonderful on the Kaiyodo's. It's okay, but not wonderful.
I think that to say that these are THE BEST clouded leopards is perhaps a little zealous; I have them - they're pretty decent, and I'm glad I have them. But I've never held them as the standard-bearer of what a clouded leopard should look like. I think Mojo's clouded leopard is understandably simplistic in paint-scheme, given the cost of complex painting, but I think the sculpt looks great. Chad, I have no idea why they are introduced in a Japanese theme. I don't know Caiyodo enough to understand how their series of animals are built. I agree the tail is short for a clouded leopard and as I told, a sitting cat is always hard to judge in terms of sculpting. I also agree that the painting of Mojo figure is simplistic and the Caiyodo is anything special. I believe also that the texture is not as rich as in Mojo figure and the pose of Mojo is beautiful in my opinion. Anyway, I am always suspect once I participated on the development of the figure, so hardly it would look bad for me once I ahve the chance of giving my imput. I think Caiyodo, from what I know, can give us some very wonderful figures, mainly those with delicate parts, but as all brands, some are better others are not so good. These cats don't impress me but I believe they are very small and that they are very good respecting their size. Only from pictures, I don't have any doubt that I like best Mojo figure but there are surely some Caiyodo that I like best than Mojo relatives. |
| | | Ana
Country/State : Utrecht/NL Age : 37 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 11003
| Subject: Re: Mojo 2013 Clouded Leopard!!! ... the end! Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:27 am | |
| _________________ Anna Horse and Bird studio - Horse sculptures My model horse collection
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| | | Duck-Anch-Amun
Country/State : Luxembourg Age : 35 Joined : 2010-12-29 Posts : 1080
| Subject: Re: Mojo 2013 Clouded Leopard!!! ... the end! Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:23 am | |
| Hooray finally a cloudes leopard I voted in the mojo-wishthread for a clouded Leopard, but Gaur and Barbirusa got more votes - so I´m happy that this wonderful species is anyway made by mojo It will an expensive year for me and Mojo is next to collecta on top with the stoat, honey badger, gaur, clouded leopard an the tamandua |
| | | Kikimalou Admin
Country/State : Lille, FRANCE Age : 60 Joined : 2010-04-01 Posts : 21191
| Subject: Re: Mojo 2013 Clouded Leopard!!! ... the end! Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:08 am | |
| - Bongo wrote:
- Really nice, Moyo made a cat which looks like similar to a clouded leopard, but unfortunately, it just looks like one, too bad, tehy didn't made really a clouded leopard.
So I think, I should send them pcitures of clouded leopards, so can they see, how this species is looking, so maybe they will recognize, they made a totally wrong body,a wrong colour and wrong spots, and whats worse-its smiling !
Mojo made a really good step in the right direction doing great and unuasally species-now thyy have to do the next step, to make GREAT and realistic looking figures of them-maybe in a couple of years. I hope, they will do then better models of the same specis......
Not all of their figures are bad, but this one is of them worse models from Mojo,also the honey badgers
And no, I'm NOT to strong with them, just dissappointed. Bongo, seriously... Could you tell me what model, what toy, what figurine is good enough to enjoy you, I can't remember. - sphyrna18 wrote:
- I agree that pelage color for the yellow and grey ones looks like a clouded leopard, but I was just wondering if Kaiyodo has ever actually called them Clouded Leopards. If they have, then how did they fit into the Animals of Japan theme, and what is the story of the "black" one? I've never seen a black clouded leopard like that. Also, given that clouded leopards' tails are easily as long as their HBL, don't you think that the Kaiyodo's tails are a little short? Plus, the painting isn't all that wonderful on the Kaiyodo's. It's okay, but not wonderful.
I think that to say that these are THE BEST clouded leopards is perhaps a little zealous; I have them - they're pretty decent, and I'm glad I have them. But I've never held them as the standard-bearer of what a clouded leopard should look like. I think Mojo's clouded leopard is understandably simplistic in paint-scheme, given the cost of complex painting, but I think the sculpt looks great. For a long time, this one was the best Clouded leopard I knew, simply because I haven't any competitor on shelf. Even if it is not the best KAIYODO ever, it is more convincing as a Clouded leopard than as a leopard cat. KAIYODO already made a better leopard cat in 2001 |
| | | PeGe
Country/State : Germany Age : 44 Joined : 2011-05-29 Posts : 1634
| Subject: Re: Mojo 2013 Clouded Leopard!!! ... the end! Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:16 am | |
| i don't think the kaiyodo Neofelis is actually a marbled cat. You can find it as iriomote cat, but the the Iriomote cat is a bnational treasure of japan and there are also figurines of that species existing, so i don't thingk there's a mistake outside the internnational auction market,...It's pretty obvious a short-tailed clouded leopard, maybe after a stroke,...;-p I really like to get the grey one one day as he looks far better than the yellowish one. I#ve never seen a picture of a more or less melanistic Neofelis but the original pattern makes it easy to think of a specimen with bigger blackish spots. So the dark figurine is also possible. i really like the mojo figurine as it's a very good pose for a clouded leopard. If you ever watsched a family with yougsters of several ages, i did this twice this summer, you can see how careful they notice what's happening around them and how cowered they move actually. So this figurines captures a specimen that's walking toward a tree and raising it's head to see when and how to start climbing,....or it's walking on a branch watching a bird,....the painting of the pattern is bad although several essential markings are placed pretty well. On the other hand it's a result of industrial painting so i can't imagine a different realistic result. the head shape is very good for a female, the tail is long enough and get's thicker to the tip. It will be a fine partner fos my custom figurine.Btw., due to this discussion, i also corrected the tail of my rework today
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