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PostSubject: Changing Schleich Hanoverian into Silesian/Wielkopolski Horse (p. 2)   Changing Schleich Hanoverian into Silesian/Wielkopolski Horse (p. 2) EmptyTue May 13, 2014 9:30 am

Hey guys. I have met a beautiful guy during wedding reception on Saturday. This big fellow was looking at me for some time, waiting to be stroked. When I approached him, he sniffed my hands and looked at me gently, and I know that he was happy that there was somebody that could get his attention. It was love from the first sight, and I miss him pretty much. No other horse that I met there had been so nice and open.

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That's why I have thought that it would be a good idea to custom a Schleich horse and change it into that big guy. I hadn't checked the proportions before I went to the shop to buy a figurine for this custom, so that I have bought a Schleich Hanoverian stallion. I could actually buy a Shire stallion, but his face was so ugly that... well...

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So, this Hanoverian stallion should be changed into this big fellow:
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Now my question is: what should I change? I know that the head is a little bit too small, and the body is too long. How can I change this horse to get right proportions? Any suggestions?

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PostSubject: Re: Changing Schleich Hanoverian into Silesian/Wielkopolski Horse (p. 2)   Changing Schleich Hanoverian into Silesian/Wielkopolski Horse (p. 2) EmptyTue May 13, 2014 11:29 am

Hello,

I can tell you what I think but maybe I can better show you,
The model look somewhat small in general, but that's a choise of course! :)
The mold doesn't look that long only to fin as faras I can see.
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Maybe you ca make the nek and theback bigger, and then don'forget the sides?
Because if you look at it from te back side he should not be fin on his belly and neck and but.
almost like a squire!

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I do thin his head is to fine, maybe make that more like the big follow with some adding's?
And if you make the model more bulky (husky muscled I don't know how to call it) the legs became shorter in an instance. Because for the eye the body looks heavier, sow the legs look shorter.
Ans then don't forget his beautiful legg feathers Very Happy

I hope you have got something out of this (my English is still very baddd Razz)

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Excellent prsesentation Dum-my! Best luck with the stallion Fisva Wink I am sure he will be very beautiful :)

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Agata, what a beautiful story and horse! Very Happy
I don't know if it is supposed I comment once I don't know anything about horses and customizing a figure is something that I never did before.
I don't have any doubts that you can make that Hanoverian look like a Polish draft but you have to change almost everything, Hanoverian is much lighter in all parts.
I think I saw the old Schleich heavy horse in a poor condition being sold here in an online auctions website and in my opinion it fits much better with the horse you're trying to replicate.
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Let me know if you want me to try to get it although you have to be patient. :)

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Thank you very much my dear friends! And thank you Dum_my for a fantastic presentation, it will help me a lot :)

Rogerio, it depends how much would it cost because recently I'm quite out of money  Crying or Very sad 

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I think it's an interesting idea, but it might be difficult to change what you need to. Hanoverian is a lighter horse, whereas the draft is obviously much heavier. It's not like you can just add some clay here and there, but I say if you're willing to have a long project to work on, go for it!

I would shorten the neck, and if possible, use a head from a different model. If not, then you can try building up what you have. The chest and croup should be built out a bit more, as well as the barrel. The legs possibly a bit shorter as well as thicker. Once the neck is shortened that needs to be thickened. The ears are huge, those you could probably resculpt. I keep looking at your photo thinking the back is too long, but maybe that's because everything else is too thin. I hope you'll take this on!

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Rogerio, it depends how much would it cost because recently I'm quite out of money  Crying or Very sad 

Well, I am not asking money, the only risk is that I receive it and love it. Laughing
Let me know if you want to wait and if you find the mould suitable... and I contact the seller Very Happy

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Absolutly amazing!!

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Roger wrote:
Fisva wrote:
Rogerio, it depends how much would it cost because recently I'm quite out of money  Crying or Very sad 

Well, I am not asking money, the only risk is that I receive it and love it. Laughing
Let me know if you want to wait and if you find the mould suitable... and I contact the seller Very Happy

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I would be happy to get it, then!  bounce cheers 

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Fisva wrote:
Roger wrote:
Fisva wrote:
Rogerio, it depends how much would it cost because recently I'm quite out of money  Crying or Very sad 

Well, I am not asking money, the only risk is that I receive it and love it. Laughing
Let me know if you want to wait and if you find the mould suitable... and I contact the seller Very Happy

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I would be happy to get it, then!  bounce cheers 

OK, I'll try to get it for you! Very Happy meanwhile why don't you use the Hanoverian to make a Silesian horse. I find that mare wonderful! Very Happy
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I have thought about this coat already. It is beautiful indeed!

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Ohhhh! What an absolutely beautyful boy  I love you drunken 

It will be very exiting to see what comes out of it all  bounce bounce Very Happy Very Happy

PS : The gorgeous Mojo Suffolk Punch, made by Anna, could also be great, - the model is awesome, but it would be great with a repaint Wink

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PS : The gorgeous Mojo Suffolk Punch, made by Anna, could also be great, - the model is awesome, but it would be great with a repaint Wink

I have thought about it already, but all my horses are Schleich and I didn't want the model to be too small in comparison with the other horses. I know that Mojo figurines are a little bit smaller than usual Schleich. I also had a limited choice of horses Sad

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Fisva wrote:
I have thought about this coat already. It is beautiful indeed!

You're a brilliant painter, it won't be a dramatic change to turn the Hannoverian in a Silesian. Maybe that golden palomino is not easy to get but life is made of challenges. Very Happy
... and you'll have the chance of having two horse breeds from your country. Very Happy
I agree with Susanne, Mojo horses have a lot of potential to be repainted. I am sure that a painting as fine as the sculpting could turn these figures in real masterpieces. flower

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I agree with Susanne, Mojo horses have a lot of potential to be repainted. I am sure that a painting as fine as the sculpting could turn these figures in real masterpieces. flower

They surely will ! Look [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  cheers 

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I have just baked the horse...  Laughing Laughing Laughing 

I have changed the mane and lifted the mouth a little bit. I have also cut genitals and changed it into mare.

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Aww, I love the new mane! Looks so cute! I love you But a good cute, not Schleich-cute. Wink

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Ohh so cute I love you  I like the mane, wow! Wanna see more bounce bounce bounce cheers 

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Looking fine! :)
Well, as you transformed it in a mare, you're not anymore replicating the big guy in the begining of this thread. What are you doing now? scratchscratchVery Happy

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OK, I'll try to get it for you! :Dmeanwhile why don't you use the Hanoverian to make a Silesian horse. I find that mare wonderful! Very Happy
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That's not a Silesian, they can't be this colour. besides the mare is too light Wink

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Here are some great examples of Silesian horses:
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What an interesting breed. When you see through the photos you can see the same strong type of the body and that wonderful head. Thank you for pics! I'd like to do one custom, Silesian horse cheers 

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OK, I'll try to get it for you! :Dmeanwhile why don't you use the Hanoverian to make a Silesian horse. I find that mare wonderful! Very Happy
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That's not a Silesian, they can't be this colour. besides the mare is too light Wink

You're right as usual Magda, I've found that picture on Wikipedia article about the breed and wrongly thought immediately it was a Silesian. geek I don't know why that picture is used in that entry. Though, I should notice not only the color but mainly the fact of being a much lightbuilt horse once I was trying to find a Polish breed to fit more or less the Hanoverian. I loved the color and that was enough to suggest it. Very Happy
The description of that picture also says that it is an unknown breed horse. Sleep
Luckily we have some horse experts like you to notice these mistakes. I wanted to see a palomino what is not possible being a Silesian, however, I find the Silesian idea very good to this particular figure but I may be wrong again. flower
Thanks for these links with wonderful horses. Very Happy

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Thank you Magda for your precious information! Perhaps I should make a Palomino Wielkopolski horse  Laughing 
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cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers 

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Why not Very Happy Wielkopolski horses come in many equine colours and patterns.
Though personally I'd prefer to make a Silesian - I have a soft spot for heavier breeds Laughing 

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