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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:06 am

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I like the last picture you posted Numaan - if it was modelled exactly like that it would be perfect.
The other two pictures are stunning and I know one is real but they look too stiff to me.

I agree with you Harriet Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:19 am

Me too Harriet. I think the little chappie above was woken in the middle of his afternoon nap Sleep Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:23 am

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I like the last picture you posted Numaan - if it was modelled exactly like that it would be perfect.
The other two pictures are stunning and I know one is real but they look too stiff to me.

Lol perhaps you are right but I like the pose of its legs in picture one - it is standing in a firm and confident pose. However Pictures 2 and 3 are my favourite.

Picture 2 is a sculpture I came across and I think that it is absolutely magnificent - the bull is walking with confident and with such poise - its magnificence has been captured beautifully.
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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:48 am

I think you have something Numaan, perhaps if you had the slight movement and body mass of your last image with the head position and direction quite similar to the sculpture then that would be a very nice pose.

Just one question about the sculpture? Although the body is beautifully sculpted the head is completely wrong, don't you think? What a shame, if the head was correct it would be a stunning piece What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:55 am

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Just one question about the sculpture? Although the body is beautifully sculpted the head is completely wrong, don't you think? What a shame, if the head was correct it would be a stunning piece What a Face
Yes you're right Egbert, the sculpture has no forehead. The forehead should stick up and then the horns are on top, with this sculpture the horns are almost coming out of it's eyes Shocked but it's still a lovely statue. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:33 am

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I think you have something Numaan, perhaps if you had the slight movement and body mass of your last image with the head position and direction quite similar to the sculpture then that would be a very nice pose.

Just one question about the sculpture? Although the body is beautifully sculpted the head is completely wrong, don't you think? What a shame, if the head was correct it would be a stunning piece What a Face

Yes I was wondering when someone would mention it. The sculpture to me is perfect in every way apart from where the horns are situated - they are a little too low down the head but I hope that if this pose is used that Mojo will correct the head shape and horns...
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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:16 pm

One more time thanks for your help choosing the future of the STS Mojo figure!
Reading carefully your comments looks consensual that our antelope will be a standing figure, looking forwards and a large male with a dark coat! I hope a giant sable antelope! :)
I will give you some feedback during the development process! :)
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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:53 pm

Hi guys, I've been away for a while and I think poll is ended, but I want to state my opinion. I totally agree with the position you chose. A sable antelope is such a majestic animal and deserves a regal pose!
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One more time thanks for your help choosing the future of the STS Mojo figure!
Reading carefully your comments looks consensual that our antelope will be a standing figure, looking forwards and a large male with a dark coat! I hope a giant sable antelope! :)
I will give you some feedback during the development process! :)

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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:55 am

Thank you Zé Neto!
Mojo will send me 2 or 3 images representing what would be the final pose for the sable, and again feel free to comment, agreeing or desagreeing, you are always welcome! Remember that it is our first figure and the responsability is huge! What a Face Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:37 pm

Hello Roger. My friend, you're absolutely right! We ought to keep our eyes opened and give our opinions. I dare to say this poll can be the first of many colaborations between us and the companies.
Let me ask you: can you give some informations about Mojo, such as its website? I'd like to konow a bit more about it and be sure that I'll be able to purchase its products.
A great hug, Zé.

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Thank you Zé Neto!
Mojo will send me 2 or 3 images representing what would be the final pose for the sable, and again feel free to comment, agreeing or desagreeing, you are always welcome! Remember that it is our first figure and the responsability is huge! What a Face Very Happy
Keep your eyes open! Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:49 pm

Hello Zé Neto!
Fortunately I already have some Mojo figures and can tell you that they are starting with a very interesting quality, their website is www.mojofun.eu, there you can find e-mail contact, facebook, twitter, etc.
The catalogue's link is already in some topics anyway here goes!
www.mojofun.eu/catalogue! Very Happy

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Hello Roger. My friend, you're absolutely right! We ought to keep our eyes opened and give our opinions. I dare to say this poll can be the first of many colaborations between us and the companies.
Let me ask you: can you give some informations about Mojo, such as its website? I'd like to konow a bit more about it and be sure that I'll be able to purchase its products.
A great hug, Zé.

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Thank you Zé Neto!
Mojo will send me 2 or 3 images representing what would be the final pose for the sable, and again feel free to comment, agreeing or desagreeing, you are always welcome! Remember that it is our first figure and the responsability is huge! What a Face Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:32 am

Hello Roger,
Thanks for the websites. I really enjoyed their figures. Where do you buy the figures? The store I know do not sell Mojo figures, and on Ebay they're absent!


[quote="Roger"]Hello Zé Neto!
Fortunately I already have some Mojo figures and can tell you that they are starting with a very interesting quality, their website is www.mojofun.eu, there you can find e-mail contact, facebook, twitter, etc.
The catalogue's link is already in some topics anyway here goes!
www.mojofun.eu/catalogue! Very Happy


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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:52 am

Hello Zé Neto!
Mojo is a very new brand, is not easy to find their figures in shops yet!
I think that the USA distributor is
http://www.endlessgames.com./
...and MPV is already selling some prehistoric figure:
http://shop.modellpferdeversand.de/index.php
Simce I have more informations I'll tell you!


[quote="ze_neto"]Hello Roger,
Thanks for the websites. I really enjoyed their figures. Where do you buy the figures? The store I know do not sell Mojo figures, and on Ebay they're absent!


Roger wrote:
Hello Zé Neto!
Fortunately I already have some Mojo figures and can tell you that they are starting with a very interesting quality, their website is www.mojofun.eu, there you can find e-mail contact, facebook, twitter, etc.
The catalogue's link is already in some topics anyway here goes!
www.mojofun.eu/catalogue! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:41 pm

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One more time thanks for your help choosing the future of the STS Mojo figure!
Reading carefully your comments looks consensual that our antelope will be a standing figure, looking forwards and a large male with a dark coat! I hope a giant sable antelope! :)
I will give you some feedback during the development process! :)

Hi Roger

This is a bit late but given that the model will stand and looking forwards then can I recommend this pose?

It is a pose which is in one of my old wildlife books and is a drawing. I have loved this picture for a long time as the Antelope looks like it is in a rutting or defensive posture. It is quite smart and very handsome looking with the head slightly lowered as if it is displaying its strong horns. What do you think?

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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:53 pm

It's a very lovely pose!
Numaan what is the title of your book - the drawings look really nice - I need a good book like that.

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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:03 am

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It's a very lovely pose!
Numaan what is the title of your book - the drawings look really nice - I need a good book like that.

I have a number of books on African Mammals and wildlife that are great to refer to for pictures. The book that this Sable antelope picture is taken from is a very thick and heavy book shown here:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Encyclopedia-Mammals-David-Macdonald/dp/0199206082/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1301492698&sr=1-3

This book contains photos as well as drawings of many animals some of which are in great poses.


Other great books in my collection which I recommend are:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingdon-Field-Guide-African-Mammals/dp/0713665130/ref=sr_1_18?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1301492809&sr=1-18

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Field-Guide-Larger-Mammals-Africa/dp/1770073930/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1301492941&sr=1-2



For extinct animals these books are an absolute MUST! A complete bible as such on many extinct species such as Quagga, bluebuck etc:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/encyclopedia-vanished-species-David-Day/dp/0947889302

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gap-Nature-Discovering-Extinct-Animals/dp/0434008192/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1301493756&sr=1-2

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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:04 am

Thanks Numaan, it's a very interesting pose, fortunately the choosen species is interesting in all poses! Is beautiful.
Maybe some late but I'm sure you will love the final pose.:)
And the discussion is open, everything about the figure is very welcome!!!:)

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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:17 am

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HKHollinstone wrote:
It's a very lovely pose!
Numaan what is the title of your book - the drawings look really nice - I need a good book like that.

I have a number of books on African Mammals and wildlife that are great to refer to for pictures. The book that this Sable antelope picture is taken from is a very thick and heavy book shown here:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Encyclopedia-Mammals-David-Macdonald/dp/0199206082/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1301492698&sr=1-3

This book contains photos as well as drawings of many animals some of which are in great poses.


Other great books in my collection which I recommend are:
Thanks for all the links Numaan, all those books look fantastic, I especially like the look of "The Kingdon Field Guide to African Mammals"!

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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:04 am


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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:13 am

Lovely pictures !

I've just been looking through my books and found this picture. Personal taste, he is perfect for me ! The colour, the pose, he is just gorgeous. My picture has made his colours a little light.



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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:14 am

Gorgeous indeed cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:39 am

Great picture! It reminds me of the Britain's Sable Antelope. How old is the book? I wonder if Britain's used that picture for theirs. Lovely picture you have found by the way.




I think Britain's made the best Sable antelope so far. The detailing, posture and overall sculpting is superb for such a small model. Love it!

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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:49 am

I think the edition I have is from 1971. Part of a four part series that I got last year from the open day at work.

That is a very nice model !
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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:35 am

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I think the edition I have is from 1971. Part of a four part series that I got last year from the open day at work.

That is a very nice model !

Interesting. The Britain's model was made in 1979....

thanks for sharing the picture.
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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:29 am

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Rio wrote:
I think the edition I have is from 1971. Part of a four part series that I got last year from the open day at work.

That is a very nice model !

Interesting. The Britain's model was made in 1979....

thanks for sharing the picture.
Britians actually made at least 4 different plastic models and at least one lead figure. the last pose was done in 1979 I think, but my favorite is the pose in the photo above but was brown instead of black.
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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:42 am

Philter4 wrote:
Schleichzoo wrote:
Rio wrote:
I think the edition I have is from 1971. Part of a four part series that I got last year from the open day at work.

That is a very nice model !

Interesting. The Britain's model was made in 1979....

thanks for sharing the picture.
Britians actually made at least 4 different plastic models and at least one lead figure. the last pose was done in 1979 I think, but my favorite is the pose in the photo above but was brown instead of black.
Here's one of the versions

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PostSubject: Baltimore zoo   Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:49 pm

The only Sable I like is Rena Mero...(google her)
Also a Kindon Guide to African Mammals is an awesome book!
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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:37 pm

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The only Sable I like is Rena Mero...(google her)

Lol you had me fooled! i just googled expecting to find out something about an animal rather than a person - you got me! lol
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PostSubject: Baltimore zoo   Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:02 am

A few years ago, Sable(Rena Mero), was the hottest thing in the WWE(formerly WWF)!
Now she's married to UFC fighter Brock Lesner!
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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:50 am

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Lovely pictures !

I've just been looking through my books and found this picture. Personal taste, he is perfect for me ! The colour, the pose, he is just gorgeous. My picture has made his colours a little light.




Dear friends!
I promised to tell you the final pose and I can tell you that, after a friendly discussion and your help, it will be something similar (in pose) with this picture of a Rio's book!
I hope you like it! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:08 am

Me likes Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:31 am

That will be great, I remember this book from my younger days drunken

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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:21 am

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Egbert wrote:
i'm hurt now Crying or Very sad the great Mojorator has me as a crocodilian!
Does that mean you dont like my idea Mojorator?
I think i am more like my cheeky friend below Very Happy


Oh sorry! I didn't want to hurt you! I'm only trying to be kind, in this picture you makes me remember my youngest son!!! How can I hurt you???:)
I understand your point of view about the sable, you want an artistic touch but I think it could not result natural! But is always an idea and all ideas are welcome! Thanks and who have to like the idea is Mr. Mojo and not the mojorator!!!:pirate: :)
Any pose could be great in such a beautiful species!
But not this one of this female sable with a zebra!


I am sorry my friend, but this is a Roan antelope, closely related, but a different species... Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:04 am

I want to put my few cents to this discussion to... Laughing

I would like to have a firm standing pose for the male sable too, as he is watching his family, and protecting it...
A female could be grazing, and the youngster could be lying and resting, and so we have 3 nice poses for our winning choice.

By the way, the classic one on your picture Harriet, seems like a Hong Kong or Singapore copy to me, there are several in that time, in very different colours.



The Britains vintage model looks like this:



And we saw the deetail model already:



And we forgot the Starlux WWF model:



Which would make a good pose to, if not the standing firm one...
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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:11 am

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By the way, the classic one on your picture Harriet, seems like a Hong Kong or Singapore copy to me, there are several in that time, in very different colours.
It's not a copy, it has "Britains England" on it's belly. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:16 am

Great Willy! cheers
Thanks for your correction and mainly for your pictures with many figures from different periods! Very useful and fantastic suggestions, unfortunately you are some late in this discussion because your opinions are very well apreciated!
The figure is already being developed with more or less the pose you suggested for the male! I'm sure you will love it! :)

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PostSubject: Baltimore zoo   Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:10 am

Starlux sable's nice! Just needed to be painted with flat paints instead of glossy.
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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:52 am

Another update about the Mojo sable!
The scale: it will be a 1:20 scaled figure with 7 cm high at shoulder what represents a 1,40 m, it means a large sable! I'm sure unless Baltymorezoo will be happy with this news! Very Happy
I hope all members agree with it! I'm very happy! Very Happy Thanks again Mojo! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:03 am

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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:27 am

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Another update about the Mojo sable!
The scale: it will be a 1:20 scaled figure with 7 cm high at shoulder what represents a 1,40 m, it means a large sable! I'm sure unless Baltymorezoo will be happy with this news! Very Happy
I hope all members agree with it! I'm very happy! Very Happy Thanks again Mojo! cheers
That's a lovely size!!

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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:53 am

Will the size match the current Schleich antelope? im no good with numbers! :-)
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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:29 am

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Will the size match the current Schleich antelope? im no good with numbers! :-)

This sable will match better the Schleich figures than the new Schleich kudu, perfect for the lion, zebra, etc.
I think the Schleich kudu represents a small greater kudu, but remember that. But the answer is yes!
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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:56 pm

VSome more news about our sable!
Mr. James was in China during these days developing the mould in clay of the sable antelop, and some of of our friends are already reviewing and correcting it! At the end of May we will have new development of the figure, is not possible to share the pictures in public, anyway keep watching this topic cause I'll ask Mr. James if it is possible to show a picture of the last mould reviewing before the painting. :)
It means that our STS figure has already a visible shape!
More news soon!!! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:12 pm

Great Roger cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:16 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:48 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:28 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:33 am

Fabulous, awesome cheers bounce Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:51 am

Dear friends! Thanks for your enthusiastic comments! Is nice to know that people is still with a high level of motivation.
Also nice to help me selecting more 2 or 3 members to help reviewing one of the next stages of the figure. :)
is not possible to pick all members but the final result is due to forum members and it will please everybody. ... And i'm thinking to make a similar work with horse's series and gradually have more members in active participation. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Sable antelope discussion!!!   Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:36 am

Brilliant news cheers

I cannot wait to see this beauty !
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