The Javan rhino from Bullyland :-)

In commection with [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] of the new ( 2018) Indian rhino from Schleich, there has been a very interesting discussion about the difference between Indian and Javan rhinos.  

I have been asked to make a small walkaround of Bullyland's great, old Javan critter, and am delighted to present some pictures  
The model has a calf, and both are rather large, as they were among the first models in the DeLuxe-series.
Both were made from 1999 to 2005.

The adult :


And here she is with her baby. To the right is the Indian rhino from the "large" series, so you can see that the Deluxe's are massive  


Mom and baby seen from above :


A few details-photoes :


















A few comparisons.
I do not yet have the new Schleich Indian rhino, but hope to make a comparison later.

Here you see Mother Java-Bullyland, and the iconic old Schleich model which was made with few adjustments for app 20 years .
To the the right is the brand new Sumatra rhino from Safari ! A gorgeous little model, which I hope somebody ( or myself) will present soon .


Bullyland and Schleich rhinos with their calves


Aren't the two cute together ?

Very good walkaround:)

Yes, a very good walkaround, Susanne

But is it possible that there are different variants of Javan rhinoceros? My Javan Rhinoceros looks a bit different in details and I think it´s not so big.

Fabulous walk around, Susanne! We can see clearly every details that make it a Javan rhino. It is a fact that the sculptor was not very talented but the species was well studied and it worth a lot. The fact that the shoulder shield and nape shield are clearly divided, is the key to determine the exact species as I learned just recently. I always often based my appreciations in things like the smaller horn, less armoured looking and things like these.
I also see that some years ago, I couldn't be of help with Philipp's post I am quoting below. Those are all Javan rhinos and it may illustrate previous comment.

PeGe wrote:

Hello,
concerning the Bullyland Javan Rhino:



On this picture we see two calves, an adult and what about the biggest one?
Can you help me?
Ist it an indian rhino?

Thanks and best wishes,
P

Yurumi wrote:

Yes, a very good walkaround, Susanne

But is it possible that there are different variants of Javan rhinoceros? My Javan Rhinoceros looks a bit different in details and I think it´s not so big.

This is completely new to me
Again an axample of the difficulties of finding all Bullyland models. So many look alike

WOW !!! We need pictures etc for TAI

I an cee that the calf that I have is a male, and the big adult is a female , - what about yours, Yuru ?

Great catch!

I think the picture of PeGe shows both variants. Unfortunately, I do not know why there are two.
In the catalog of Bullyland 2004 it shows mine with 12cm length and one also sees that e.g. the horn is smaller. The article number is the same as Susanne indicated at TAI.
Yes, the sexes are the same with mine.


Many thanks to Roger and Philipp for the picture

My Bullyland Javan Rhino can be seen here:
I can take some pictures later for TAI

Wonderful walkaround dear Susanne
And thank you Roger for asking Susanne to make it

Here are the Javan rhinos from the Bullyland catalog from 2004:


...As already written my model is about 12cm long. Susanne, how long is your Javan rhino?

Thankyou, Yuru

And here is the picture from 1999, when they were launched :


Same model as yours. It is not as wringeled and you can't see the ribs, as you can on mine  
Actually I can not find my adult rhino in any of Bullyland's catalogues

There is also this picture but it is the same 2004 catalogue. On Amazon, measurements provided for package are 16,1 cm long with a weight of 191g. Which package?
By the way, what does [V]3 and [V]6 mean?

Packaging Unit, in german [V] = Verpackungseinheit.

Yurumi wrote:

Packaging Unit, in german  [V] = Verpackungseinheit.

Many thanks, now it makes sense to me.

Here are pictures from my both versions by the Bullyland Javan rhino. Same model, only in different sizes.

The bigger one (191g) on the left side with the more modern tag has   article number 63535.

The smaller one (150g) on the right side has the older tag with   no number on it.





 Here you can see the older tag/no number from my smaller javan rhino.


Here you can see the tag with the more modern tag from the  bigger javan rhino.


The 1999 catalog shows the rhino with number 63535 and the older Bullyland logo as newcomer.

The catalog 2004 shows the newer logo, same as we can see it on the tag from my larger Javan rhino and we also read, the javan rhino has again the number 63535.

Somehow the question remains, what size shows Bullyland in the catalogs ? No hints for size in the catalogs.  

75senta75 wrote:

Here are pictures from my both versions by the Bullyland Javan rhino. Same model, only in different sizes.

The bigger one (191g) on the left side with the more modern tag has   article number 63535.

Beautiful !       How to live without a Javan rhinoceros ?    Someone wants to get rid of ? Any version. Preferably smaller   Please...

Perfect presentation, Yvette! We will find the mistery, I guess.
2004 catalogue reads the adult is 12 cm long. I checked it and it also can be seen on this same topic.
Based on the provided weight and assuming both figures have the same material with the same density, their difference of length is just 1cm. We already know the smaller version is 12 cm, so the larger must be 13 cm.
I am convinced that all pictures of 1999-2004 catalogues feature the smaller version.
Tags show that the larger is more recent and as it has the same product number, it should be a continuation of the previous model. However, 2005 catalogue does not show any of them.
I don't know what is more difficult, to find one for our collections or unravelling this mistery.